OK, I'm of the opinion that almost everything Autodesk has done is either drastically limited or paid.
I've got the standard version of Eagle, 7.7.? That was purchased on a hobby license, so I cannot easily share designs because of the prohibition on "selling" the design.
You can write a C++ program that reads the .brd file, and creates a board from a library of parts (that you'd need to provide) modeled in OpenSCAD.? There's also a program in OpenSCAD that has a library of parts, but it turns out to be easier (for me) to model everything from scratch and use my own models.
Not related so much to pcbgcode, but I find it a useful addition.
Harvey
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Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current
versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many
hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is
apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode as well as forcing use
of ghastly Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to
be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on
mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects
of the task!!
Autodesk do seem to be prepared to drop EACLE, but Fusion does have EAGLE built-in. I've Used EAGLE for years, and then transitioned to Fusion, and unlike you I find the Fusion is very
good. It does all the things that EAGLE did. The one thing that has changed is that the PCB-Gcode ULP is indeed broken, and while I've pestered Autodesk to repair it they have
declined. Thus I do all my design work in Fusion, then export the PCB file to EAGLE to use PCB-Gcode, an extra step to be sure but not that bad either.
The real advantage of Fusion is the CAD functionality, for which EAGLE is abysmal. You can design your device in Fusion with all the modern CAD tools you'd expect. Then extract
the outline including any holes or other placement critical features and use that to design your board. Vastly better than EAGLE alone.
In addition to CAD tools Fusion has a good CAM functionality, an FEA module, thermal modelling, generative design, a SPICE modeler.? I personally use CAD, CAM, Fusion Electronics
(essentially a re-skinned version of EAGLE) and FEA. I also buy Fusion Machining Extensions that gives me genuine simultaneous four and five axis tool paths.
My ONLY complaint about Fusion is that the 'pour' function has been altered, and that is what has broken PCB-Gcode.
Craig
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*Sent:*?Monday, 13 January 2025 1:25 am
*To:*[email protected] <[email protected]>
*Subject:*?[pcbgcode] Eagle 9.6.2 #eagle #etch #gcode #2-layer
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode as well as forcing use of ghastly Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
It is possible to legally download Eagle 7.7.0, and this already has most of the bells and whistles of Eagle 9.6.2 with the exception of the autorouter and its associated tools.? The V7 track manipulation facilities are very basic compared to V9, which makes fine tuning of the layout very tedious.
As a hobbyist community, it would surely be advantageous to lobby Autodesk to leave the free version as is, but without the requirement to log in every 2 weeks.? No possible financial loss or gain for Autodesk but a huge gain for hobbyists.
My personal PCB toolchain is Eagle 9.6.2 - PCB-Gcode - UCCNC(UC100) - Stepcraft420/2.?? No file manipulation needed between Eagle layout and the finished circuit board.
Any thoughts on this????
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Hi Peter,
However, the thought of not having any of my design files available locally on my PC does not sit well with me -
I was very much of the same opinion. Realistically though how justified is that?.?
For example all my business records, invoices and all that stuff in on the cloud. What's the bet all you medical records and your banking
records are on the cloud too.?
I've come to the realization that its just too late, cloud computing is here and here to stay.?
If there is a debate about whether this is a good idea philosophically or not matters little......what is happening, ie migrating to the cloud, is
happening like it or not. I'd be more concerned about say my business records than I am about Fusion should push come to shove.
What I will call out and describe as a negative consequence of the clou model is the reliance on the internet. If the internet slows or goes cranky then
you might as well kiss getting any work done with Fusion goodbye. Even a slow down can be deleterious, commands can take so long between you and the cloud server
that they can be stacked up, almost ensuring that Fusion will crash on you.
I live rurally, about 30km from the city. My wireless broadband is only fair, to the extent that I cant really use Fusion at home....its just too error prone given
the level of internet service I get there. I am vey much inclined to get Starlink, not so much because I like Musk, or am a real 'power' user, but I would like
to be able to work from home.
Fusion is good, but neither is it that good that you can pick it up in five minutes. It has taken quite some time for me to get fluent with it, but now that I have I?
find it as good as anything else I've used.
If you want a real learning curve try Mastercam. Absolutely superb program to be sure, I still think its the best CAM product bar none, but man...... is it a battle to get to grips
with!
Using Fusion as much as I do I find that I earn the $800NZD/year or so that the Fusion Basic subscription costs me sometimes as often as weekly, and I'm being?slow and lazy
if it does not pay for itself fortnightly. Fusion Machining Extensions (that supports simultaneous four and five axis, collision avoidance and tool path editing) costs an
additional $2400NZD/year. I cannot really justify that cost against the earnings of the business, but as time progresses and I use the four/five axis more and more
it will pay for itself too.
Craig
Craig - I fully understand your point of view as a functioning business that must be efficient and up to date with the latest CAD/CAM.
?
I retired from gainful work at the end of the last century - so my desire to learn a new complex (for me) series of tools is somewhat blunted by the intervening years.?
?
When I trialed the free version of "360" I did try,
very briefly, to explore the schematic editor by downloading a simple 9.6.2 job, but probably due to lack of basic knowledge managed to screw things up in no time. Perhaps I should be a little more patient and actually read some of the tutorials before
trying to do something useful!!!
?
However, the thought of not having any of my design files available locally on my PC does not sit well with me - I remember the days when a central computer was servicing many operators - and the chaos that ensued when it "crashed".?
Arrival of the original IBM "PC" was a breath of fresh air - everything importance was saved on 7" floppy discs and archived in a fireproof safe.?
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Peter
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Craig - I fully understand your point of view as a functioning business that must be efficient and up to date with the latest CAD/CAM.
?
I retired from gainful work at the end of the last century - so my desire to learn a new complex (for me) series of tools is somewhat blunted by the intervening years.?
?
When I trialed the free version of "360" I did try, very briefly, to explore the schematic editor by downloading a simple 9.6.2 job, but probably due to lack of basic knowledge managed to screw things up in no time. Perhaps I should be a little more patient and actually read some of the tutorials before trying to do something useful!!!
?
However, the thought of not having any of my design files available locally on my PC does not sit well with me - I remember the days when a central computer was servicing many operators - and the chaos that ensued when it "crashed".? Arrival of the original IBM "PC" was a breath of fresh air - everything importance was saved on 7" floppy discs and archived in a fireproof safe.?
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Peter
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Hi,
as I say AutoRouter is not a feature I use. Fusion does support it, and I've spent the last half hour fiddling with it, and it seems to
work fine. Whether it is that same, better or worse than the same feature in EAGLE I cannot say. I seldom if ever used it in EAGLE either.
Note that I have a paid subscription to Fusion basic and its possible that a feature I have may not be in an unpaid Fusion Basic installation.?
I use Fusion daily for my business. I make PCBs for automotive instruments, tachometers, speedos etc. So in addition to the PCB also have to make custom
meter mountings, plug receptacles and any number of other small parts all using my CNC machine, and thus having CAD/CAM/PCB design in one package
is extremely valuable to me.?
I don't necessarily think that Fusion has the best CAD, but its pretty good. I don't think Fusion has the best CAM, but its pretty good. I don't think Fusion is the best
or most comprehensive FEA, but its pretty ?good. I don't think Fusion has the best electronics design tools, but is pretty good.
I don't necessarily like either the subscription model, nor do I much like the cloud based model.....but, and this is the biggy..........what I get for the?
money I pay is very VERY good value, in fact, in my opinion at least, its the BEST on the market.
I know a lot of people love to hate Autodesk, but overall I find that Fusion Basic and Fusion Machining Extensions is the best for my needs, and thus I pay.
You might say I vote with my wallet. Do I?love Autodesk......no, I do not, do I hate Autodesk, most certainly I do not.
Craig
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On Jan 12, 2025, at 14:45, joeaverage via groups.io <joe.average@...> wrote:
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Hi,
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode as well as forcing use of ghastly
Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
Autodesk do seem to be prepared to drop EACLE, but Fusion does have EAGLE built-in. I've Used EAGLE for years, and then transitioned to Fusion, and unlike you I find the Fusion is very
good. It does all the things that EAGLE did. The one thing that has changed is that the PCB-Gcode ULP is indeed broken, and while I've pestered Autodesk to repair it they have
declined. Thus I do all my design work in Fusion, then export the PCB file to EAGLE to use PCB-Gcode, an extra step to be sure but not that bad either.
The real advantage of Fusion is the CAD functionality, for which EAGLE is abysmal. You can design your device in Fusion with all the modern CAD tools you'd expect. Then extract
the outline including any holes or other placement critical features and use that to design your board. Vastly better than EAGLE alone.
In addition to CAD tools Fusion has a good CAM functionality, an FEA module, thermal modelling, generative design, a SPICE modeler.? I personally use CAD, CAM, Fusion Electronics
(essentially a re-skinned version of EAGLE) and FEA. I also buy Fusion Machining Extensions that gives me genuine simultaneous four and five axis tool paths.
My ONLY complaint about Fusion is that the 'pour' function has been altered, and that is what has broken PCB-Gcode.
Craig
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode
as well as forcing use of ghastly Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
?
It is possible to legally download Eagle 7.7.0, and this already has most of the bells and whistles of Eagle 9.6.2 with the exception of the autorouter and its associated tools.? The V7 track manipulation facilities are very basic compared to V9, which
makes fine tuning of the layout very tedious.?
?
As a hobbyist community, it would surely be advantageous to lobby Autodesk to leave the free version as is, but without the requirement to log in every 2 weeks.? No possible financial loss or gain for Autodesk but a huge gain for hobbyists.
?
My personal PCB toolchain is Eagle 9.6.2 - PCB-Gcode - UCCNC(UC100) - Stepcraft420/2.?? No file manipulation needed between Eagle layout and the finished circuit board.?
?
Any thoughts on this????
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Hi,
Does fusion electronics bring back the auto router?
Good question, I don't use the Auto-Router. I'll experiment and report back soon.
Craig
Does fusion electronics bring back the auto router?
On Jan 12, 2025, at 14:45, joeaverage via groups.io <joe.average@...> wrote:
?
Hi,
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode as well as forcing use of ghastly
Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
Autodesk do seem to be prepared to drop EACLE, but Fusion does have EAGLE built-in. I've Used EAGLE for years, and then transitioned to Fusion, and unlike you I find the Fusion is very
good. It does all the things that EAGLE did. The one thing that has changed is that the PCB-Gcode ULP is indeed broken, and while I've pestered Autodesk to repair it they have
declined. Thus I do all my design work in Fusion, then export the PCB file to EAGLE to use PCB-Gcode, an extra step to be sure but not that bad either.
The real advantage of Fusion is the CAD functionality, for which EAGLE is abysmal. You can design your device in Fusion with all the modern CAD tools you'd expect. Then extract
the outline including any holes or other placement critical features and use that to design your board. Vastly better than EAGLE alone.
In addition to CAD tools Fusion has a good CAM functionality, an FEA module, thermal modelling, generative design, a SPICE modeler.? I personally use CAD, CAM, Fusion Electronics
(essentially a re-skinned version of EAGLE) and FEA. I also buy Fusion Machining Extensions that gives me genuine simultaneous four and five axis tool paths.
My ONLY complaint about Fusion is that the 'pour' function has been altered, and that is what has broken PCB-Gcode.
Craig
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode
as well as forcing use of ghastly Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
?
It is possible to legally download Eagle 7.7.0, and this already has most of the bells and whistles of Eagle 9.6.2 with the exception of the autorouter and its associated tools.? The V7 track manipulation facilities are very basic
compared to V9, which makes fine tuning of the layout very tedious.?
?
As a hobbyist community, it would surely be advantageous to lobby Autodesk to leave the free version as is, but without the requirement to log in every 2 weeks.? No possible financial loss or gain for Autodesk but a huge gain for
hobbyists.
?
My personal PCB toolchain is Eagle 9.6.2 - PCB-Gcode - UCCNC(UC100) - Stepcraft420/2.?? No file manipulation needed between Eagle layout and the finished circuit board.?
?
Any thoughts on this????
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Does fusion electronics bring back the auto router?
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On Jan 12, 2025, at 14:45, joeaverage via groups.io <joe.average@...> wrote:
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Hi,
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode as well as forcing use of ghastly
Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
Autodesk do seem to be prepared to drop EACLE, but Fusion does have EAGLE built-in. I've Used EAGLE for years, and then transitioned to Fusion, and unlike you I find the Fusion is very
good. It does all the things that EAGLE did. The one thing that has changed is that the PCB-Gcode ULP is indeed broken, and while I've pestered Autodesk to repair it they have
declined. Thus I do all my design work in Fusion, then export the PCB file to EAGLE to use PCB-Gcode, an extra step to be sure but not that bad either.
The real advantage of Fusion is the CAD functionality, for which EAGLE is abysmal. You can design your device in Fusion with all the modern CAD tools you'd expect. Then extract
the outline including any holes or other placement critical features and use that to design your board. Vastly better than EAGLE alone.
In addition to CAD tools Fusion has a good CAM functionality, an FEA module, thermal modelling, generative design, a SPICE modeler.? I personally use CAD, CAM, Fusion Electronics
(essentially a re-skinned version of EAGLE) and FEA. I also buy Fusion Machining Extensions that gives me genuine simultaneous four and five axis tool paths.
My ONLY complaint about Fusion is that the 'pour' function has been altered, and that is what has broken PCB-Gcode.
Craig
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode
as well as forcing use of ghastly Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
?
It is possible to legally download Eagle 7.7.0, and this already has most of the bells and whistles of Eagle 9.6.2 with the exception of the autorouter and its associated tools.? The V7 track manipulation facilities are very basic compared to V9, which
makes fine tuning of the layout very tedious.?
?
As a hobbyist community, it would surely be advantageous to lobby Autodesk to leave the free version as is, but without the requirement to log in every 2 weeks.? No possible financial loss or gain for Autodesk but a huge gain for hobbyists.
?
My personal PCB toolchain is Eagle 9.6.2 - PCB-Gcode - UCCNC(UC100) - Stepcraft420/2.?? No file manipulation needed between Eagle layout and the finished circuit board.?
?
Any thoughts on this????
|
Hi,
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode as well as forcing use of ghastly
Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
Autodesk do seem to be prepared to drop EACLE, but Fusion does have EAGLE built-in. I've Used EAGLE for years, and then transitioned to Fusion, and unlike you I find the Fusion is very
good. It does all the things that EAGLE did. The one thing that has changed is that the PCB-Gcode ULP is indeed broken, and while I've pestered Autodesk to repair it they have
declined. Thus I do all my design work in Fusion, then export the PCB file to EAGLE to use PCB-Gcode, an extra step to be sure but not that bad either.
The real advantage of Fusion is the CAD functionality, for which EAGLE is abysmal. You can design your device in Fusion with all the modern CAD tools you'd expect. Then extract
the outline including any holes or other placement critical features and use that to design your board. Vastly better than EAGLE alone.
In addition to CAD tools Fusion has a good CAM functionality, an FEA module, thermal modelling, generative design, a SPICE modeler.? I personally use CAD, CAM, Fusion Electronics
(essentially a re-skinned version of EAGLE) and FEA. I also buy Fusion Machining Extensions that gives me genuine simultaneous four and five axis tool paths.
My ONLY complaint about Fusion is that the 'pour' function has been altered, and that is what has broken PCB-Gcode.
Craig
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode
as well as forcing use of ghastly Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
?
It is possible to legally download Eagle 7.7.0, and this already has most of the bells and whistles of Eagle 9.6.2 with the exception of the autorouter and its associated tools.? The V7 track manipulation facilities are very basic compared to V9, which
makes fine tuning of the layout very tedious.?
?
As a hobbyist community, it would surely be advantageous to lobby Autodesk to leave the free version as is, but without the requirement to log in every 2 weeks.? No possible financial loss or gain for Autodesk but a huge gain for hobbyists.
?
My personal PCB toolchain is Eagle 9.6.2 - PCB-Gcode - UCCNC(UC100) - Stepcraft420/2.?? No file manipulation needed between Eagle layout and the finished circuit board.?
?
Any thoughts on this????
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peterg, I agree that it would be wonderful if AutoDesk would release 9.6.2 in a 2 layer version without the phone-home feature, but it seems very unlikely.? They doubtless think they will lose business if they do this.
Killing a perfectly good product which serves the needs of a small part of what they see as the market is not new.
But it cannot hurt to ask.
john ferguson
st petersburg, fl
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Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode as well as forcing use of ghastly Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
?
It is possible to legally download Eagle 7.7.0, and this already has most of the bells and whistles of Eagle 9.6.2 with the exception of the autorouter and its associated tools.? The V7 track manipulation facilities are very basic compared to V9, which makes fine tuning of the layout very tedious.?
?
As a hobbyist community, it would surely be advantageous to lobby Autodesk to leave the free version as is, but without the requirement to log in every 2 weeks.? No possible financial loss or gain for Autodesk but a huge gain for hobbyists.
?
My personal PCB toolchain is Eagle 9.6.2 - PCB-Gcode - UCCNC(UC100) - Stepcraft420/2.?? No file manipulation needed between Eagle layout and the finished circuit board.?
?
Any thoughts on this????
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Re: Alternatives to PCB-GCODE
#etch
Thank you!
I'm glad it has been, and continues to be, useful to you.
Regards,
JJ
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Alternatives to PCB-GCODE
#etch
Out of curiosity I has a look at FlatCAM as an alternative to PCB-GCODE.? What a devilishly complicated process to go through that PCB-GCODE accomplishes almost instantaneously with one or two mouse clicks.
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I've been using PCB-GCODE for more than 8 years now and IMHO it's the product of a genius!!? Some time ago I had the temerity to incorporate a very minor change to the generation of a solder mask so that it could be milled from a ( 0.25mm ) mylar sheet using the same tool as for copper "etching".
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JJ, thanks for your reply. This came about from a problem I encountered with a PCB that had a coin cell battery holder and a few other parts on it. I wanted to clear the spare around
the holder so I set up isolation, but noticed an area that still had copper I was not expecting. Upon investigation I found what I thought was a bug. To demonstrate the problem I created a PCB with a single track then isolated the full board to demonstrate
the ‘bug’. You are correct if all I wanted was a single track in the middle of a board Eagle and PCB-GCODE would probably not be the best solution.
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If you have a bit of spare time, maybe you could look at the problem.
There do not seem to be any build instructions in the project, if they are there and I have missed them I apologise.
If I could build it and debug it I might be able to fix the ‘bug’ but I suspect it’s a bit of a steep learning curve and there is some complicated maths going on the generate the
paths.
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Regards - Steve
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On Behalf Of John Johnson via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2024 11:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [pcbgcode] #pcbgcode GCODE generation bug
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That’s an unusual application.?
If you need to clear a large area, you could try a crosshatch, or draw lines on the milling layer, but using a cad program (or script) to generate the gcode might be the better solution.?
I don’t work on pcb-gcode much anymore. Lots of people find it useful, so it’s still available. Fixes and updates are few and far between these days.?
?Dissapointed I have not had any replies, so here is information on how to recreated the problem.
Board 75 x 50mm, 25th track 25mm in from each edge. GCode setup shown, using a 1mm cutter
Preview of tool path. Note the big blank area where copper is not removed. The tool path should cover all of the board.
Chilipeppr display showing the same information (just in case the viewer was not telling the truth)
Is the PCB-GCODE developer still active ? If anyone knows how to contact him please let him see this.
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That’s an unusual application.? What is your goal? If you need to clear a large area, you could try a crosshatch, or draw lines on the milling layer, but using a cad program (or script) to generate the gcode might be the better solution.?
I don’t work on pcb-gcode much anymore. Lots of people find it useful, so it’s still available. Fixes and updates are few and far between these days.?
Regards, JJ
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?Dissapointed I have not had any replies, so here is information on how to recreated the problem. Board 75 x 50mm, 25th track 25mm in from each edge. GCode setup shown, using a 1mm cutter <dummyfile.0.part> Preview of tool path. Note the big blank area where copper is not removed. The tool path should cover all of the board. <dummyfile.1.part> Chilipeppr display showing the same information (just in case the viewer was not telling the truth) <dummyfile.2.part> Is the PCB-GCODE developer still active ? If anyone knows how to contact him please let him see this.
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Dissapointed I have not had any replies, so here is information on how to recreated the problem. Board 75 x 50mm, 25th track 25mm in from each edge. GCode setup shown, using a 1mm cutter  Preview of tool path. Note the big blank area where copper is not removed. The tool path should cover all of the board.  Chilipeppr display showing the same information (just in case the viewer was not telling the truth)  Is the PCB-GCODE developer still active ? If anyone knows how to contact him please let him see this.
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Hello, I think I have found a bug in PCB-GCODE V3.6.6
What is the best way to report this.
Running from Eagle 9.6.2, using pcb-gcode Setup, Isolation with Maximum set to 30, the gcode output starts missing paths when it touches the board edges.
I can supply test files and pictures of output.
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I did not lose support. I still have it and it does the same perfect job it has been doing for years. It still works fine even in Windows10. lt also runs in *nix using wine environment. You only need to find the 32-bit richtx32.ocx file and place it in the same directory as the executable file. I can upload my .ocx somewhere if you wish.
????? With the sorted output, the current board I am working on will take around 26 hours per side to finish. I can't even imagine how much time it would take without the sorted/optimized output so - as old as it is - this piece of treasure is still one of the greatest tools in my arsenal: it saves me A LOT of time.
???? I just wish to know if the project advanced with some more options, for example: - sort the moving path for drill files - it's a nightmare when I have around 2000 holes of the same diameter;
- manually add touch plate probe directives to the plotted surface; - "paint" new lines to the plotted surface; - can it be compiled for *linux or *BSD, to avoid installing 8 gigabytes of "wine environment" just to be able to run it?
Thank you for the "Discriminator g-code viewer and editor" tip. I think it is from here:?
On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 5:19?PM John Johnson < john@...> wrote: Sorry to hear you all have lost support of this program.? isn’t my website. In a moment of being overly generous, I agreed to allowing whomever registered to do so. I wasn’t involved with anything he created and sold, and didn’t receive any compensation from him.?
My web address is , which forwards to the address.?
I would like to get the registration, if anyone has contact with the owner.?
Regards, JJ
On Jan 1, 2024, at 9:56?AM, John Blanchard <john@...> wrote:
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I also purchased a license for this program and found it useful for cleaning up some “extra” routing paths etc. However, I am unable to get it to run on Windows 10 so it has been useless since upgrading from Win 7. Like you I have found
no recent trace of the program or its author. I would be interested if you find any replacement. I use a gcode viewer and editor called Discriminator which can be used to manually eliminate such things as the border isolation trace. It is also very useful
for viewing the gcode and observing the tool path at various speeds.
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John
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A long time ago I found and downloaded a free version of the pcb gcode wizard executable program. I remember I sent a big complicated ngc g-code file to test the stability, then I purchased the license for the pcb-gcode-wizard executable
program. The serial number I received is 1042.? I no longer have the e-mail with the conversation.
But I still use this program and it does wonderful work. I can sort the CNC "jumps", it shorts a lot of time. I even milled a big double-sided PCB which took me 28 hours per side using the sorted g-code output (search ""
for "the pertec whisperer" to see the result).
I noticed the executable program - in its freeware version - is no longer available anywhere. The website
became "[email protected]"... and there is no trace of that program. Just the name and the documentation on some github address. So I would
like to ask - did it evolve into something better or is it a dead project?
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Okay, I’m confused.? It looks like I own pcbgcode.com now.? Not sure if the previous owner transferred it to me, or how that happened.? Either way, that’s a good thing ?
Also, Happy New Year to you all!
Regards, JJ
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On Jan 1, 2024, at 10:19?AM, John Johnson <john@...> wrote:
? Sorry to hear you all have lost support of this program.? pcbgcode.com isn’t my website. In a moment of being overly generous, I agreed to allowing whomever registered pcbgcode.com to do so. I wasn’t involved with anything he created and sold, and didn’t receive any compensation from him.?
My web address is pcbgcode.org, which forwards to the groups.io address.?
I would like to get the pcbgcode.com registration, if anyone has contact with the owner.?
Regards, JJ
On Jan 1, 2024, at 9:56?AM, John Blanchard <john@...> wrote:
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I also purchased a license for this program and found it useful for cleaning up some “extra” routing paths etc. However, I am unable to get it to run on Windows 10 so it has been useless since upgrading from Win 7. Like you I have found
no recent trace of the program or its author. I would be interested if you find any replacement. I use a gcode viewer and editor called Discriminator which can be used to manually eliminate such things as the border isolation trace. It is also very useful
for viewing the gcode and observing the tool path at various speeds.
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John
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A long time ago I found and downloaded a free version of the pcb gcode wizard executable program. I remember I sent a big complicated ngc g-code file to test the stability, then I purchased the license for the pcb-gcode-wizard executable
program. The serial number I received is 1042.? I no longer have the e-mail with the conversation.
But I still use this program and it does wonderful work. I can sort the CNC "jumps", it shorts a lot of time. I even milled a big double-sided PCB which took me 28 hours per side using the sorted g-code output (search ""
for "the pertec whisperer" to see the result).
I noticed the executable program - in its freeware version - is no longer available anywhere. The website
became "[email protected]"... and there is no trace of that program. Just the name and the documentation on some github address. So I would
like to ask - did it evolve into something better or is it a dead project?
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Sorry to hear you all have lost support of this program.? pcbgcode.com isn’t my website. In a moment of being overly generous, I agreed to allowing whomever registered pcbgcode.com to do so. I wasn’t involved with anything he created and sold, and didn’t receive any compensation from him.?
My web address is pcbgcode.org, which forwards to the groups.io address.?
I would like to get the pcbgcode.com registration, if anyone has contact with the owner.?
Regards, JJ
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I also purchased a license for this program and found it useful for cleaning up some “extra” routing paths etc. However, I am unable to get it to run on Windows 10 so it has been useless since upgrading from Win 7. Like you I have found
no recent trace of the program or its author. I would be interested if you find any replacement. I use a gcode viewer and editor called Discriminator which can be used to manually eliminate such things as the border isolation trace. It is also very useful
for viewing the gcode and observing the tool path at various speeds.
?
John
?
?
A long time ago I found and downloaded a free version of the pcb gcode wizard executable program. I remember I sent a big complicated ngc g-code file to test the stability, then I purchased the license for the pcb-gcode-wizard executable
program. The serial number I received is 1042.? I no longer have the e-mail with the conversation.
But I still use this program and it does wonderful work. I can sort the CNC "jumps", it shorts a lot of time. I even milled a big double-sided PCB which took me 28 hours per side using the sorted g-code output (search ""
for "the pertec whisperer" to see the result).
I noticed the executable program - in its freeware version - is no longer available anywhere. The website
became "[email protected]"... and there is no trace of that program. Just the name and the documentation on some github address. So I would
like to ask - did it evolve into something better or is it a dead project?
|
I also purchased a license for this program and found it useful for cleaning up some “extra” routing paths etc. However, I am unable to get it to run on Windows 10 so it has been useless since upgrading from Win 7. Like you I have found
no recent trace of the program or its author. I would be interested if you find any replacement. I use a gcode viewer and editor called Discriminator which can be used to manually eliminate such things as the border isolation trace. It is also very useful
for viewing the gcode and observing the tool path at various speeds.
?
John
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of
Vasile Buruiana via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 3:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [pcbgcode] #pcb-gcode-wizard #version101/April 2012
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A long time ago I found and downloaded a free version of the pcb gcode wizard executable program. I remember I sent a big complicated ngc g-code file to test the stability, then I purchased the license for the pcb-gcode-wizard executable
program. The serial number I received is 1042.? I no longer have the e-mail with the conversation.
But I still use this program and it does wonderful work. I can sort the CNC "jumps", it shorts a lot of time. I even milled a big double-sided PCB which took me 28 hours per side using the sorted g-code output (search ""
for "the pertec whisperer" to see the result).
I noticed the executable program - in its freeware version - is no longer available anywhere. The website
became "[email protected]"... and there is no trace of that program. Just the name and the documentation on some github address. So I would
like to ask - did it evolve into something better or is it a dead project?
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Hello,
A long time ago I found and
downloaded a free version of the pcb gcode wizard executable program. I
remember I sent a big complicated ngc g-code file to test the stability,
then I purchased the license for the pcb-gcode-wizard executable
program. The serial number I received is 1042.? I no longer have the
e-mail with the conversation.
But I still use this
program and it does wonderful work. I can sort the CNC "jumps", it
shorts a lot of time. I even milled a big double-sided PCB which took me
28 hours per side using the sorted g-code output (search "" for "the pertec whisperer" to see the result).
I noticed the executable program - in its freeware version - is no longer available anywhere. The website became " [email protected]"...
and there is no trace of that program. Just the name and the
documentation on some github address. So I would like to ask - did it
evolve into something better or is it a dead project?
Thank you.
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bownes
John Johnson