Hi,
as I say AutoRouter is not a feature I use. Fusion does support it, and I've spent the last half hour fiddling with it, and it seems to
work fine. Whether it is that same, better or worse than the same feature in EAGLE I cannot say. I seldom if ever used it in EAGLE either.
Note that I have a paid subscription to Fusion basic and its possible that a feature I have may not be in an unpaid Fusion Basic installation.?
I use Fusion daily for my business. I make PCBs for automotive instruments, tachometers, speedos etc. So in addition to the PCB also have to make custom
meter mountings, plug receptacles and any number of other small parts all using my CNC machine, and thus having CAD/CAM/PCB design in one package
is extremely valuable to me.?
I don't necessarily think that Fusion has the best CAD, but its pretty good. I don't think Fusion has the best CAM, but its pretty good. I don't think Fusion is the best
or most comprehensive FEA, but its pretty ?good. I don't think Fusion has the best electronics design tools, but is pretty good.
I don't necessarily like either the subscription model, nor do I much like the cloud based model.....but, and this is the biggy..........what I get for the?
money I pay is very VERY good value, in fact, in my opinion at least, its the BEST on the market.
I know a lot of people love to hate Autodesk, but overall I find that Fusion Basic and Fusion Machining Extensions is the best for my needs, and thus I pay.
You might say I vote with my wallet. Do I?love Autodesk......no, I do not, do I hate Autodesk, most certainly I do not.
Craig
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Does fusion electronics bring back the auto router?
On Jan 12, 2025, at 14:45, joeaverage via groups.io <joe.average@...> wrote:
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Hi,
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode as well as forcing use of ghastly
Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
Autodesk do seem to be prepared to drop EACLE, but Fusion does have EAGLE built-in. I've Used EAGLE for years, and then transitioned to Fusion, and unlike you I find the Fusion is very
good. It does all the things that EAGLE did. The one thing that has changed is that the PCB-Gcode ULP is indeed broken, and while I've pestered Autodesk to repair it they have
declined. Thus I do all my design work in Fusion, then export the PCB file to EAGLE to use PCB-Gcode, an extra step to be sure but not that bad either.
The real advantage of Fusion is the CAD functionality, for which EAGLE is abysmal. You can design your device in Fusion with all the modern CAD tools you'd expect. Then extract
the outline including any holes or other placement critical features and use that to design your board. Vastly better than EAGLE alone.
In addition to CAD tools Fusion has a good CAM functionality, an FEA module, thermal modelling, generative design, a SPICE modeler.? I personally use CAD, CAM, Fusion Electronics
(essentially a re-skinned version of EAGLE) and FEA. I also buy Fusion Machining Extensions that gives me genuine simultaneous four and five axis tool paths.
My ONLY complaint about Fusion is that the 'pour' function has been altered, and that is what has broken PCB-Gcode.
Craig
Autodesk -? in their wisdom - seem set to kill off the current versions of Eagle, including the free version used by many hobbyists - myself included. The version running under Fusion is apparently not ccompatible with PCB-Gcode
as well as forcing use of ghastly Fusion 360.? Gone is the user friendliness of Eagle to be replaced, IMHO, by a user hostile revamp focussed more on mechanical engineering than on the electrical/electronic aspects of the task!!
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It is possible to legally download Eagle 7.7.0, and this already has most of the bells and whistles of Eagle 9.6.2 with the exception of the autorouter and its associated tools.? The V7 track manipulation facilities are very basic compared to V9, which
makes fine tuning of the layout very tedious.?
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As a hobbyist community, it would surely be advantageous to lobby Autodesk to leave the free version as is, but without the requirement to log in every 2 weeks.? No possible financial loss or gain for Autodesk but a huge gain for hobbyists.
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My personal PCB toolchain is Eagle 9.6.2 - PCB-Gcode - UCCNC(UC100) - Stepcraft420/2.?? No file manipulation needed between Eagle layout and the finished circuit board.?
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Any thoughts on this????
