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Re: Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

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Dave,
? I am a bit puzzled by your comment concerning the FDTI drivers and crelay...
I am using crelay and three FTDI devices on my PI.. no known issue.

AL, K0VM


On 1/13/2023 12:46 PM, Dave wo2x wrote:

Hi Mike

I need to compile a list of commands to install crelay then the flow I have is easy to control the right relays on the SainSmart board.?

One thing I found is it disables the FTDI sip driver so FTDI USB to serial CAT cables stopped working. The ¡°fix¡± would be to use one Pi running crelay with the USB relay board connected and MQTT to the main Pi which would have the USB to serial cables for rotor, SteppIR, CAT, etc.?

It caused me to go a slightly different direction for the remote radio and order another DLI Web Switch Pro and two AC Relays for the remote on and remote PTT.?

73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jan 13, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Mike / K5JR <k5jr.flex@...> wrote:

? Tell me more about ¡°crelay¡±. I have s of both the Denkovi and SainSmart USB-8 boards.?

tnx
Mike / K5JR
Alpharetta GA

On Jan 12, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Dave wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

? I¡¯m building a flow to work with crelay to control the SainSmart USB-8 board. It is a $30 8 relay board on Amazon.

Load crelay on Pi then use Node Red to control it and get status.

Dave wo2x


On Jan 11, 2023, at 8:26 PM, WA8Y Steven <stevenlinley@...> wrote:

?I have the Denkovi USB 8 Relay board.? I'm using it to control my K9AY Loop System box.?
The free software works with MQTT.
Steve WA8Y?


Renamed Folder /!1! Flows by Type/RADIOS/WA9WUD Flex Radio Flow Set With StreamDeck Buttons #file-notice

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Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> updated folder /!1! Flows by Type/RADIOS/WA9WUD Flex Radio Flow Set With StreamDeck Buttons


Re: File Notifications #file-notice

 

I uploaded my Flex Radio Flows. ?Most of the controls and indictions include a SteamDeck Button.

Works with MultiFlex and Multiple Flex Radios.

The folder includes:

- List of required Pallets to load first.
- List of StreamDeck Buttons, with Button ID and Web socket path suffix. ?See the end of the list for a link to download the StreamDeck Custom WS Plug-In.

- Flex Connection Flow. ?This flow supports all other Flex Radio Elements and must be installed.

- A complete Flex Dashboard, as shown below, fully assembled. ?Simply import this file for a fully functional Flex Radio Dashboard.

- A folder of each Flex Radio Flow element for those who want to build their own.

Alan. WA9WUD


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Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> added folder /!1! Flows by Type/RADIOS/WA9WUD Flex Radio Flow Set With StreamDeck Buttons


The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...>

Description:
List of required pallets to install first


The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...>

Description:
Full Flex, MultiFlex, Multi-Radio Flow Set. Loading this file gives you a complete Flex Dashboard with StreamDeck Buttons. No other file uploads are necessary.


Re: Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

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Hi Mike

I need to compile a list of commands to install crelay then the flow I have is easy to control the right relays on the SainSmart board.?

One thing I found is it disables the FTDI sip driver so FTDI USB to serial CAT cables stopped working. The ¡°fix¡± would be to use one Pi running crelay with the USB relay board connected and MQTT to the main Pi which would have the USB to serial cables for rotor, SteppIR, CAT, etc.?

It caused me to go a slightly different direction for the remote radio and order another DLI Web Switch Pro and two AC Relays for the remote on and remote PTT.?

73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jan 13, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Mike / K5JR <k5jr.flex@...> wrote:

?Tell me more about ¡°crelay¡±. I have s of both the Denkovi and SainSmart USB-8 boards.?

tnx
Mike / K5JR
Alpharetta GA

On Jan 12, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Dave wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?I¡¯m building a flow to work with crelay to control the SainSmart USB-8 board. It is a $30 8 relay board on Amazon.

Load crelay on Pi then use Node Red to control it and get status.

Dave wo2x


On Jan 11, 2023, at 8:26 PM, WA8Y Steven <stevenlinley@...> wrote:

?I have the Denkovi USB 8 Relay board.? I'm using it to control my K9AY Loop System box.?
The free software works with MQTT.
Steve WA8Y?


Re: Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

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Tell me more about ¡°crelay¡±. I have s of both the Denkovi and SainSmart USB-8 boards.?

tnx
Mike / K5JR
Alpharetta GA

On Jan 12, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Dave wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?I¡¯m building a flow to work with crelay to control the SainSmart USB-8 board. It is a $30 8 relay board on Amazon.

Load crelay on Pi then use Node Red to control it and get status.

Dave wo2x


On Jan 11, 2023, at 8:26 PM, WA8Y Steven <stevenlinley@...> wrote:

?I have the Denkovi USB 8 Relay board.? I'm using it to control my K9AY Loop System box.?
The free software works with MQTT.
Steve WA8Y?


Re: Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

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I¡¯m building a flow to work with crelay to control the SainSmart USB-8 board. It is a $30 8 relay board on Amazon.

Load crelay on Pi then use Node Red to control it and get status.

Dave wo2x


On Jan 11, 2023, at 8:26 PM, WA8Y Steven <stevenlinley@...> wrote:

?I have the Denkovi USB 8 Relay board.? I'm using it to control my K9AY Loop System box.?
The free software works with MQTT.
Steve WA8Y?


Re: What are others using to remote power on / off PGXL set to 240V in NodeRed ?

 

I use DLI switch that energizes a Packard 340B 3 pole 40 amp relay.

It has a 120 volt coil so you just need an open spot on your switch.

I have two of these and use one for an Alpha 9500 and one for a PGXL.

73,

George / W7GES


Re: What are others using to remote power on / off PGXL set to 240V in NodeRed ?

 
Edited

I use one of these IP relays to control 2 higher current relays similar to the one Mike has shown.





It is all installed inside one of these PDU's for a neat package to control 240ac going to two amps.



Picture 3 of 10



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Gary
K6HN


Re: Ser2net problems ????

 

HI .....

Help from anyone who is using k3ng-rotor whit the SER2NET....

still fighting to get the rotor flow to work.......

On output-5 I can see the command I send to my rotor, if I ned the Beam dir I send a "C" whit help from a Inject node and
my rotor controller should reply whit "AZ=245"....



BUT it do not reply whit it...it reply whit som wrong info :-(?



I put a debug on outpu-5 to look what is going in to the ser2net, and on output-6 I can monitor the reply from the rotor ??



But why I see those numbers, I simply cannot understand ??


73" Ben


Re: What are others using to remote power on / off PGXL set to 240V in NodeRed ?

 

I built my own switch that is operated by 12V using a Potter and Brumfield?DPST?relay.? I then switch the 12V to this relay with my KMTronic relay board.? ?This is how the commercial world does it.??

They look like this (not this exact model).

There are some remote Pool heater switches you can find on Amazon that would work as well.

Mike va3mw?

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On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 11:22 AM Gary, KE8O <ke8o.gary@...> wrote:
I picked up a Suraielec model UBTW01B from Amazon which I can control through Alexa and the Smart Home app on my phone. Having a single pane in NodeRed to control all of the devices would be nice. My 12v devices are already handed in NodeRed,? ?I've not opened the box yet and it is in the return policy window. Before going this route and regretting it later I thought I would find out what others are doing to control 240V devices in NodeRed.?

The unusual January thunderstorms this morning moving through the area acted as a reminder I need to do something about this before spring and summer roll around.?


What are others using to remote power on / off PGXL set to 240V in NodeRed ?

 

I picked up a Suraielec model UBTW01B from Amazon which I can control through Alexa and the Smart Home app on my phone. Having a single pane in NodeRed to control all of the devices would be nice. My 12v devices are already handed in NodeRed,? ?I've not opened the box yet and it is in the return policy window. Before going this route and regretting it later I thought I would find out what others are doing to control 240V devices in NodeRed.?

The unusual January thunderstorms this morning moving through the area acted as a reminder I need to do something about this before spring and summer roll around.?


Re: SPE Linear V1.1 flow uploaded to files section

 

I figured it out. Had to refresh myself on how the Dashboard layout works. Cheers.?


Re: Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

I have the Denkovi USB 8 Relay board.? I'm using it to control my K9AY Loop System box.?
The free software works with MQTT.
Steve WA8Y?


Re: SPE Linear V1.1 flow uploaded to files section

 

Frank, I really like your layout and am trying to reproduce it.? Can't quite figure out the spacer(s).? Can you post it?? Thanks.


Re: Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

I looked a while back to program an interface (in Delphi) and I swear they do not want anyone to sell software except theirs! I looked at their free "sample" and did not care for? the UI and put mine on a shelf and will only use it for in-shack stuff, if at all.

73

Neal
K3NC


On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 5:30 PM Joe AB1DO <ab1do@...> wrote:
Hi Harry,

While there are many relay boards out there, actually have the LP Remote extension board (the one with the 16 relays on it), which uses 2 8-port MCP23008 i2c port expanders, which drive a ULN2803A 8 channel darlington relay driver each. The board is connected through i2c to the Raspberry Pi. In Node Red I installed node-red-contrib-redplc-rpi-mcp23008 node (search for it in the palette), which I found was the only one of several out there that actually worked. The only caveat though is that it will only work on a raspberry pi and the pi must have a 32bit operating system. Although it took me a little while to figure out how exactly this node worked, I eventually got it working flawlessly. So no need to throw away the LP remote board if you don't want to.

However, looking to the future, I have a nagging feeling that the 32bit operating system could well become obsolete. I contacted the programmer, but he had no interest in updating the software (part of it is written in C++, compiled on a 32 bit system). So I kept searching and am now at the stage of rewriting/upgrading an existing node that will handle a whole range of i2c port expanders (MCP23008, MCP23017, PCF8574, PCF8574A and PCF8575). I have written most of the node software and will be testing soon (I have one of each chip available). No promises on when it will be available, though. But as I said my current setup does work flawlessly.

The nice thing about ditching the LP Remote main board was that I no longer had to deal with the on-board pic controller and had the power and versatility of Node-Red at my disposal.

73 de Joe, AB1DO




------ Original Message ------
From: willisw200@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

Thanks Alan for the info. So far all I have done with Node-Red is down load it to my win 10 machine. I have connected to the palette and watched a utube video which described the process for creating a flow. I do not know what MQTT is but will look into it¡­have a lot to learn! I will check out the DLI boards and also the Denkovi boards you mentioned.

Thanks¡­Harry ¨C W0LS

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alan Blind, WA9WUD
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 12:44
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

Harry

There are several relay board types, and everyone has a favorite. My favorites are the DLI Relay switches and the GPIO pin-based relay boards. Both have flows posed on this site.

You asked about the Denkovi relay boards. The Denkovi USB boards are difficult to interface with Node-Red.

However, the Denkovi MQTT and Web Based TCP boards are easily controlled from Node-Red.

The Denkovi Documentation for these boards has the MQTT commands and the HTTP commands, which Node-Red can be easily used to send.

Alan. WA9WUD

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 12:29 PM Harry Williams <willisw200@...> wrote:

Hi...I am new to this group and Node Red. Currently I am using a product called LP-REMOTE (N8LP product) to control up to 16 relays. It is starting to have problems and I would like to replace it. So I see all this stuff about Node Red in the Flex community so I am thinking of replacing it with a small Node-Red dashboard to control a couple of Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards. I searched this group for Denkovi and found plenty of references to the boards I have but have not found a successful implemenation. Do any of you know if Node Red will work with these boards or if I should look to another relay board that has proven to work. My goal is a small dashboard with just relay switches at least for now. I would be deploying it on a Win 10 computer.

Thanks....Harry - W0LS





Re: Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

Hi Harry,

While there are many relay boards out there, actually have the LP Remote extension board (the one with the 16 relays on it), which uses 2 8-port MCP23008 i2c port expanders, which drive a ULN2803A 8 channel darlington relay driver each. The board is connected through i2c to the Raspberry Pi. In Node Red I installed node-red-contrib-redplc-rpi-mcp23008 node (search for it in the palette), which I found was the only one of several out there that actually worked. The only caveat though is that it will only work on a raspberry pi and the pi must have a 32bit operating system. Although it took me a little while to figure out how exactly this node worked, I eventually got it working flawlessly. So no need to throw away the LP remote board if you don't want to.

However, looking to the future, I have a nagging feeling that the 32bit operating system could well become obsolete. I contacted the programmer, but he had no interest in updating the software (part of it is written in C++, compiled on a 32 bit system). So I kept searching and am now at the stage of rewriting/upgrading an existing node that will handle a whole range of i2c port expanders (MCP23008, MCP23017, PCF8574, PCF8574A and PCF8575). I have written most of the node software and will be testing soon (I have one of each chip available). No promises on when it will be available, though. But as I said my current setup does work flawlessly.

The nice thing about ditching the LP Remote main board was that I no longer had to deal with the on-board pic controller and had the power and versatility of Node-Red at my disposal.

73 de Joe, AB1DO




------ Original Message ------
From: willisw200@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

Thanks Alan for the info. So far all I have done with Node-Red is down load it to my win 10 machine. I have connected to the palette and watched a utube video which described the process for creating a flow. I do not know what MQTT is but will look into it¡­have a lot to learn! I will check out the DLI boards and also the Denkovi boards you mentioned.

Thanks¡­Harry ¨C W0LS

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alan Blind, WA9WUD
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 12:44
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

Harry

There are several relay board types, and everyone has a favorite. My favorites are the DLI Relay switches and the GPIO pin-based relay boards. Both have flows posed on this site.

You asked about the Denkovi relay boards. The Denkovi USB boards are difficult to interface with Node-Red.

However, the Denkovi MQTT and Web Based TCP boards are easily controlled from Node-Red.

The Denkovi Documentation for these boards has the MQTT commands and the HTTP commands, which Node-Red can be easily used to send.

Alan. WA9WUD

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 12:29 PM Harry Williams <willisw200@...> wrote:

Hi...I am new to this group and Node Red. Currently I am using a product called LP-REMOTE (N8LP product) to control up to 16 relays. It is starting to have problems and I would like to replace it. So I see all this stuff about Node Red in the Flex community so I am thinking of replacing it with a small Node-Red dashboard to control a couple of Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards. I searched this group for Denkovi and found plenty of references to the boards I have but have not found a successful implemenation. Do any of you know if Node Red will work with these boards or if I should look to another relay board that has proven to work. My goal is a small dashboard with just relay switches at least for now. I would be deploying it on a Win 10 computer.

Thanks....Harry - W0LS





Re: Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

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Thanks Alan for the info. So far all I have done with Node-Red is down load it to my win 10 machine. I have connected to the palette and watched a utube video which described the process for creating a flow. I do not know what MQTT is but will look into it¡­have a lot to learn! I will check out the DLI boards and also the Denkovi boards you mentioned.

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Thanks¡­Harry ¨C W0LS

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alan Blind, WA9WUD
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 12:44
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

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Harry

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There are several?relay board types, and everyone has a favorite.? My favorites are the DLI Relay switches and the GPIO pin-based relay boards.? Both have flows posed on this site.

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You asked about the Denkovi relay boards.? The Denkovi USB boards are difficult to interface with Node-Red.

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However, the Denkovi MQTT and Web Based TCP boards are easily controlled from Node-Red.

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The Denkovi Documentation for these boards has the MQTT commands and the HTTP commands, which?Node-Red can be easily used to send.

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Alan. WA9WUD

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On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 12:29 PM Harry Williams <willisw200@...> wrote:

Hi...I am new to this group and Node Red. Currently I am using a product called LP-REMOTE (N8LP product) to control up to 16 relays. It is starting to have problems and I would like to replace it. So I see all this stuff about Node Red in the Flex community so I am thinking of replacing it with a small Node-Red dashboard to control a couple of Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards. I searched this group for Denkovi and found plenty of references to the boards I have but have not found a successful implemenation. Do any of you know if Node Red will work with these boards or if I should look to another relay board that has proven to work. My goal is a small dashboard with just relay switches at least for now. I would be deploying it on a Win 10 computer.

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Thanks....Harry - W0LS


Re: Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

Harry

There are several?relay board types, and everyone has a favorite.? My favorites are the DLI Relay switches and the GPIO pin-based relay boards.? Both have flows posed on this site.

You asked about the Denkovi relay boards.? The Denkovi USB boards are difficult to interface with Node-Red.

However, the Denkovi MQTT and Web Based TCP boards are easily controlled from Node-Red.



The Denkovi Documentation for these boards has the MQTT commands and the HTTP commands, which?Node-Red can be easily used to send.

Alan. WA9WUD


On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 12:29 PM Harry Williams <willisw200@...> wrote:
Hi...I am new to this group and Node Red. Currently I am using a product called LP-REMOTE (N8LP product) to control up to 16 relays. It is starting to have problems and I would like to replace it. So I see all this stuff about Node Red in the Flex community so I am thinking of replacing it with a small Node-Red dashboard to control a couple of Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards. I searched this group for Denkovi and found plenty of references to the boards I have but have not found a successful implemenation. Do any of you know if Node Red will work with these boards or if I should look to another relay board that has proven to work. My goal is a small dashboard with just relay switches at least for now. I would be deploying it on a Win 10 computer.
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Thanks....Harry - W0LS


Nodered and Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards

 

Hi...I am new to this group and Node Red. Currently I am using a product called LP-REMOTE (N8LP product) to control up to 16 relays. It is starting to have problems and I would like to replace it. So I see all this stuff about Node Red in the Flex community so I am thinking of replacing it with a small Node-Red dashboard to control a couple of Denkovi 8 Relay USB boards. I searched this group for Denkovi and found plenty of references to the boards I have but have not found a successful implemenation. Do any of you know if Node Red will work with these boards or if I should look to another relay board that has proven to work. My goal is a small dashboard with just relay switches at least for now. I would be deploying it on a Win 10 computer.
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Thanks....Harry - W0LS