Re: Help with addition to DLI flow
Alan, More than expected ¨C Thanks for your work I am one of those who powers down the station at the end of the day.? ?The power down/up without this delay was causing problems with the Flex 6600. ?In the short time I have used the proper sequence to power up/down all seems as it should be.? Your flow will help eliminate my pilot error.? Thank you I have installed and connected the flows you instructed ¨C There is a minor glitch that may be caused by my particular set up.? I will email you info Thanks again, Dave K9UK ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alan Blind, WA9WUD
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2020 9:23 AM
To: [email protected] Group Moderators
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Help with addition to DLI flow ? As Dave, WO2X said, many of us prefer to not?remove power from the Flex Server.? We do, however, shut it off, using either the?front panel switch or the remote from the back RCA connection. Regardless, I wanted to take a look at your request. ? I uploaded a flow to do as you asked.? One problem is that there is no way to get feedback from the Flex radio that DC power has been shut off or not.? So, I added a feature to "Ping" the Flex server and I use that to set the correct sequence: ? ?remote shutdown Flex > wait two minutes > switch DC power off ? ?switch DC power on > wait two minutes > remote start Flex Regardless of the elapsed time in the sequence, the background color and text of the button will change based on Flex Server "boot" status. ?(on/off). Both sequences are initiated?by the push of a single button.? This ensures the user does not select the wrong sequence based on the actual status of the Flex Server (on or off). Dashboard controls are explained in the file instructions. You need to wire the two relay controls into your WO2X DLI switch.? They are Boolean, so compatible with Dave's switches.? You do need to "check" the "pass-through..." box, as shown.? Here is a suggested way to get the output from the Sequencer?Flow to the input of your DLI switch.? An example shown is for the "Power Relay". ? On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 10:59 PM David Davis <davek9uk@...> wrote: Switch 7 for the ps and 6 to turn on the radio
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Re: Help with addition to DLI flow
I can't seem to find the email to reply to directly, but it is only the M models that we suggest the 2 minute delay.
It is to allow the Windows Embedded in the M model tablet to do a nice clean? power on first before then starting the Maestro program (power button) to start up.
Mike va3mw
Dave
As Dave, WO2X said, many of us prefer to not?remove power from the Flex Server.? We do, however, shut it off, using either the?front panel switch or the remote from the back RCA connection.
Regardless, I wanted to take a look at your request. ?
I uploaded a flow to do as you asked.? One problem is that there is no way to get feedback from the Flex radio that DC power has been shut off or not.? So, I added a feature to "Ping" the Flex server and I use that to set the correct sequence:
? ?remote shutdown Flex > wait two minutes > switch DC power off ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? or ? ?switch DC power on > wait two minutes > remote start Flex
Regardless of the elapsed time in the sequence, the background color and text of the button will change based on Flex Server "boot" status. ?(on/off).
Both sequences are initiated?by the push of a single button.? This ensures the user does not select the wrong sequence based on the actual status of the Flex Server (on or off).
Dashboard controls are explained in the file instructions.
You need to wire the two relay controls into your WO2X DLI switch.? They are Boolean, so compatible with Dave's switches.? You do need to "check" the "pass-through..." box, as shown.?
Here is a suggested way to get the output from the Sequencer?Flow to the input of your DLI switch.? An example shown is for the "Power Relay".
Alan WA9WUD
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 10:59 PM David Davis < davek9uk@...> wrote: Switch 7 for the ps and 6 to turn on the radio
Sent from Dave's iPhone
> On Oct 2, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
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Re: Help with addition to DLI flow
Dave
As Dave, WO2X said, many of us prefer to not?remove power from the Flex Server.? We do, however, shut it off, using either the?front panel switch or the remote from the back RCA connection.
Regardless, I wanted to take a look at your request. ?
I uploaded a flow to do as you asked.? One problem is that there is no way to get feedback from the Flex radio that DC power has been shut off or not.? So, I added a feature to "Ping" the Flex server and I use that to set the correct sequence:
? ?remote shutdown Flex > wait two minutes > switch DC power off ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? or ? ?switch DC power on > wait two minutes > remote start Flex
Regardless of the elapsed time in the sequence, the background color and text of the button will change based on Flex Server "boot" status. ?(on/off).
Both sequences are initiated?by the push of a single button.? This ensures the user does not select the wrong sequence based on the actual status of the Flex Server (on or off).
Dashboard controls are explained in the file instructions.
You need to wire the two relay controls into your WO2X DLI switch.? They are Boolean, so compatible with Dave's switches.? You do need to "check" the "pass-through..." box, as shown.?
Here is a suggested way to get the output from the Sequencer?Flow to the input of your DLI switch.? An example shown is for the "Power Relay".
Alan WA9WUD
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 10:59 PM David Davis < davek9uk@...> wrote: Switch 7 for the ps and 6 to turn on the radio
Sent from Dave's iPhone
> On Oct 2, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
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I should provide an explanation?for the relays used in the Flex Power Sequencer Flow:
Boot Relay - Wire to your relay application that switches the Flex Server "Remote On/Off" RCA connector on the back of the radio.
Power Relay - Wire to your relay application that switches the 13.8 VDC power to the Flex radio.
Alan WA9WUD
On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 8:20 AM Alan Blind, WA9WUD via <a.alan.blind= [email protected]> wrote: For those who want to remove power from their Flex Servers.
Node-Red Flow "Pings" the Flex Server to determine the current state and then sets up the correct sequence to either startup or shutdown the Server with the next button push. ?
The current Flex Server State is indicated by changing the background color and text of the sequencer button. ?"Boot Relay" and "Power Relay" status indication tiles show the sequencer in motion.?
?A two-minute countdown timer is provided for reference. ?
The flow provides two relay control Boolean outputs (true/false) for the user to wire into their specific relay control application.? Two files are included in this folder, the Node-Red flow, and instructions.
Here is the Dashboard.? You can move the desired dashboard items to your individual dashboard:
You "wire" the Flow's "Power Relay" and "Boot Relay" to your specific relay application.? The Flow relay control outputs are Boolean:
? ? ? ? ?True>>>>Relay Close ? ? ? ? ? False>>>Relay Open
Here is where you wire your relays into the flow:
Alan WA9WUD
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For those who want to remove power from their Flex Servers.
Node-Red Flow "Pings" the Flex Server to determine the current state and then sets up the correct sequence to either startup or shutdown the Server with the next button push. ?
The current Flex Server State is indicated by changing the background color and text of the sequencer button. ?"Boot Relay" and "Power Relay" status indication tiles show the sequencer in motion.?
?A two-minute countdown timer is provided for reference. ?
The flow provides two relay control Boolean outputs (true/false) for the user to wire into their specific relay control application.? Two files are included in this folder, the Node-Red flow, and instructions.
Here is the Dashboard.? You can move the desired dashboard items to your individual dashboard:
You "wire" the Flow's "Power Relay" and "Boot Relay" to your specific relay application.? The Flow relay control outputs are Boolean:
? ? ? ? ?True>>>>Relay Close ? ? ? ? ? False>>>Relay Open
Here is where you wire your relays into the flow:
Alan WA9WUD
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Alan Blind, WA9WUD added folder /Flex Server PowerBoot Sequencer
Alan Blind, WA9WUD added folder /Flex Server Power Sequencer
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i am just building?up another NR installation so i import a backup.
I'll share it when I get it.? It should be later today.
Mike
On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 10:21 AM David De Coons wo2x < RocketNJ@...> wrote: Mike,
Send a copy to me and I will see if I can add the alarms.
Dave wo2x On Oct 3, 2020, at 8:46 AM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:
? Hi Gary
I deleted it from my RPI, but I know it backed it up... somewhere.? :)? I'll find it.??
I might have to restore a backup to another site to find it.??
I never completed it, but it is 'good enough'.? I never wrote the part to handle alarms.
Mike va3mw
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:11 PM K6HN Gary < gary@...> wrote: Hi Mike,
It would be helpful if you could dig it up and share it here. Thanks!
Gary
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Mike,
Send a copy to me and I will see if I can add the alarms.
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On Oct 3, 2020, at 8:46 AM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:
? Hi Gary
I deleted it from my RPI, but I know it backed it up... somewhere.? :)? I'll find it.??
I might have to restore a backup to another site to find it.??
I never completed it, but it is 'good enough'.? I never wrote the part to handle alarms.
Mike va3mw
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:11 PM K6HN Gary < gary@...> wrote: Hi Mike,
It would be helpful if you could dig it up and share it here. Thanks!
Gary
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Hi Gary
I deleted it from my RPI, but I know it backed it up... somewhere.? :)? I'll find it.??
I might have to restore a backup to another site to find it.??
I never completed it, but it is 'good enough'.? I never wrote the part to handle alarms.
Mike va3mw
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:11 PM K6HN Gary < gary@...> wrote: Hi Mike,
It would be helpful if you could dig it up and share it here. Thanks!
Gary
K6HN
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Dave,
Total node-RED newbie here. First heard about it during the QSO virtual hamfest. I don't know what I don't know!?
To control the KPA500:
- What are the hardware requirements?
- RPi? What version, etc.
- Does it connect to the RS-232 jack on the KPA500?
- If I get the hardware setup is it possible to install a copy of a proven Flow for the KPA500?
- Is there documentation that would describe what I need to get started?
Sorry for such basic questions but this is new to me.
Thanks in advance,
Jack
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Re: Help with addition to DLI flow
Switch 7 for the ps and 6 to turn on the radio
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On Oct 2, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
?And, which DLI switch do you use for each?
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Yes - One switch for the ps and a second to turn on the radio - Thanks Alan for your hep
Sent from Dave's iPhone
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On Oct 2, 2020, at 7:23 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
?Dave. Are you using two switches from the DLI? One for power and one for Flex on/off.
I will send you a solution tomorrow
Alan
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Re: Help with addition to DLI flow
Thanks for the response Dave,
I received instructions from Flex regarding the requirement to have the PS to the radio on for at least 2 minutes before turning on the radio either remotely or from the front panel. I have manually been doing this for a short time now and it seems to be working.
Again thanks for your flow and help,
Dave
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of David De Coons wo2x Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 8:28 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Help with addition to DLI flow You can have the Flex relay turn on first, then DC supply. The radio should boot normal. Personally I leave the DC supply and radio on all the time but have the option to turn them off. I do shut off the amp when not operating. You can use the delay node to create the sequencing. Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. On Oct 2, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
?And, which DLI switch do you use for each?
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Re: Help with addition to DLI flow
You can have the Flex relay turn on first, then DC supply. The radio should boot normal.
Personally I leave the DC supply and radio on all the time but have the option to turn them off.
I do shut off the amp when not operating.
You can use the delay node to create the sequencing.
Dave wo2x
Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.
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On Oct 2, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
?And, which DLI switch do you use for each?
Alan
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And, which DLI switch do you use for each?
Alan
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Re: Help with addition to DLI flow
Dave. Are you using two switches from the DLI? One for power and one for Flex on/off.
I will send you a solution tomorrow
Alan
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Help with addition to DLI flow
All:
I am using WO2X flow for the DLI switch to control my power supplies and a Flex 6600 radio remotely.? The Flex requires that the power supply for the radio be turned on 2 to 3 minutes prior to turning on the radio and the power supply should wait to turn off 2 to 3 minutes after the radio is turned off to be turned off.? I am looking for help to add to the WO2X flow two buttons/switches that will sequence the on/off of the radio and supply with the proper delay.? Thanks for any help - 73,
Dave - K9UK
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Hi Mike,
It would be helpful if you could dig it up and share it here. Thanks!
Gary
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I have a KPA500 flow stored some place.? If you need it, let me know.
Mike va3mw
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 12:10 PM David De Coons wo2x < RocketNJ@...> wrote: Hi Gary, ? I think the commands are similar to the KPA1500. If you need assistance let me know. ? Elecraft has the commands available on their site.
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? 73 Dave wo2x ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of K6HN Gary
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 11:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Elecraft KPA500 ? The KPA500 Commands are available through the amps serial interface. I just started working on getting node-red to talk to the KPA500 and will report back when/if I get things working.
Gary
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Hi Gary, ? I think the commands are similar to the KPA1500. If you need assistance let me know. ? Elecraft has the commands available on their site. ? ? 73 Dave wo2x ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of K6HN Gary
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 11:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Elecraft KPA500 ? The KPA500 Commands are available through the amps serial interface. I just started working on getting node-red to talk to the KPA500 and will report back when/if I get things working.
Gary
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Dave wo2x