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Looking for this K6HN azimuth flow

 

I am looking for just the azimuth flow in this group, I scoured the file section but don't see it.

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Changing font color by value of msg.payload

 

I'm trying to make my OUTPUT SWR font change from GREEN to YELLOW to ORANGE to RED as the SWR value climbs past certain levels. Here is what I've been trying to use, but it doesn't work.?

Charlie KB8CR


Re: introductions

 

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Hi Roger.?

Check out the file section on this site. Alan posts his flow there. (I do need to start working on “housecleaning” there).

73
Dave wo2x


On Aug 2, 2021, at 8:10 AM, Roger NK1I <rogerfrommaine@...> wrote:

?Hi Alan,

Your github link seem to take me to a 404 error.? I'm new to Node-RED and trying to learn by looking at other folks flows.

73 and good DX,

de Roger, NK1I


Re: introductions

 

Hi Alan,

Your github link seem to take me to a 404 error.? I'm new to Node-RED and trying to learn by looking at other folks flows.

73 and good DX,

de Roger, NK1I


Re: ERROR:Input not a JSON Array (FRSTACK)

 

I figured it out, the tabs showed disabled because they were ...wait for it.... DISABLED. Thanks Alan for you help, you put me on the right track.


Re: ERROR:Input not a JSON Array (FRSTACK)

 

Alan, that helped alot, Since those json files were included in the same folder where I got the sample file frstackNodeRedV108.json,? I thought I had to import those also (only at this for 5 days). I? added the IP address of my raspberry pi that frstack is installed on with port 5025? in the connection tab as you mentioned. The problem I can't figure out is why a bunch of the flow tabs are inactive as shown in the attachment. All other features of frstack seem to be working with my? 6700.


Re: ERROR:Input not a JSON Array (FRSTACK)

 

First the "ERROR:Input not a JSON Array" message. ?Typicaly means the nodes that parse to JSON are not seeing an input from FRStack.

Confirm you are running FRStack on a Linux (Raspberry Pi" device. ?If you are running on Window, there are different setups.

Confirm FRStack is running: ?run command, "systemctl status FRStackWebApi" and look for the "active" status. If not, reinstall dot.net and FRStack.

Perhaps you did not set up the IP to your device running FRStack. ?On the Connection Tab, double click the "Set Parameters here" node. ?Enter the IP address of the device running FRStrack, port 5025.



Now for the other "errors".

appsettings.json

FRStackWebApi.deps.json

FRStackWebApi.runtimeconfig.json

These are not errors, rather files contained in the " /usr/local/frstack" directory. ?Strange you are seeing these.

Alan. WA9WUD


Serial Control of the ERC-4 Rotator Controller

 
Edited

Hello Everyone,
I have uploaded a flow to control my ERC-4 Rotor Controller via a USB Serial output of my Raspberry Pi running Node-Red.
I haven't posted much on Groups.io, so I hope it shows up.? Hopefully it will be in the wb0smx Flows directory.? (Note** Moved to !1! Flows by Type/ROTORS/ERC Controller) This is the first Node-Red programming I have attempted.? While I have some experience with older structural languages, I am finding the Node-Red process intriguing.? I really like having the web interface.

ERC_Control.json
This flow is used to send commands to and receive responses from an ERC-4 Rotator Controller made by https://www.schmidt-alba.de/eshop/
The flow uses the Yeasu GS232B protocol to talk to the controller via a serial data connection.

This flow is an adaptation of one created by WO2X located in the [email protected] filesystem.? The original was in the wo2x Flows directory and named PSTRotator.json

Dave's original flow used network connections to talk to the PSTRotator program running on a Windows machine.

I took Dave's flow and modified it to talk directly with the ERC4 Rotator Controller via the serial USB port on my Raspberry PI 4. That way I didn't need a Windows machine in the picture.

There are two major functions involved in rotor control. ?
1.? You must send commands to and receive responses from the control box.
2.? You must interface with the human by accepting input and presenting output.

#1 is accomplished by a Serial Request Node that accepts inputs from a variety of buttons and input nodes that the human manipulates.? Commands are sent out the chosen USB port as a serial stream, and the program waits for a response from the controller.? There is a 2-second configurable timeout, in case no response is received.

One of the inputs to the Serial Request node is a periodic request for an Azimuth position from the controller.? I have this set at 1-second rate, and it runs all the time.

The other inputs are commands to Start Rotation CW or CCW, Stop Rotation, or Rotate to specific headings input or selected by the operator.? Once one of these commands are sent out, the flow continues polling for azimuth position data.

#2 is accomplished via a set of buttons dedicated to moving to specific azimuth headings, 1 for Europe, 1 for Russia, 1 for North Africa, etc...
There are other buttons for starting CW or CCW rotation without a target.
Anther button sends a STOP command to the rotator controller.
There are two input fields to manually enter a heading.? The top one is a numeric heading that may be stepped up or down one with arrow keys.? The other is a text input field that lets you freely type in a new heading. A tab or key will send the heading out.

The headings entered are all validated to insure that they are in the range of 0 - 360 degrees, and that only numbers were input.? If non-numeric data is encountered, or the heading is out of range, no command to move is generated.

Finally, response from the ERC-4 controller is parsed to extract only the numeric heading, and sent to a compass control for display.


--
Randy WB0SMX


ERROR:Input not a JSON Array (FRSTACK)

 
Edited

frstackNodeRedV108.json? imported fine.?



Three of the FRSTACK flows show this error when attempting to import.

ERROR:Input not a JSON Array

appsettings.json

FRStackWebApi.deps.json

FRStackWebApi.runtimeconfig.json

I am only five days into NodeRed, is there something common to look for when this happens?



File /ERC_Control.json uploaded #file-notice

[email protected] Notification
 

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: wb0smx <rdpecken@...>

Description:
Flow to control Rotator with Serial based ERC-4 Rotor Controller


Re: Pi 4 Image Error

 

I was and I keep getting an error at boot up. See screenshots.






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Re: Node Red article in QST September issue

 

Congratulations Dave and Mike!!! looking forward to the article.
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Re: Node Red article in QST September issue

 

I'd like that Dave.? That would be very helpful to me.? I've been learning JavaScript as I think it would be helpful to understand some things.? Maybe that is the wrong approach.? I wanted to understand the basics of Javascript to be able to interpret the payloads. Things like setting variables and arrays and some basic?programming statement.? Perhaps there are some other rudimentary?things one should review before attending a session like you propose?????

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 2:28 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
Hi Bruce

A follow up article taking a dive “under the hood” is a good idea for QEX.

Not sure on a book. There are plenty of reference sites and videos available. I am not a programmer by trade but love to find answers on how to get things accomplished (not just Node Red). Through my whole career I’ve never been afraid to take on a challenge.

My best advice to people here that might think Node Red is too difficult is to start with a couple of basic flows. Make use of debug nodes and connect the debug node to various node outputs to watch the payload (data) and observe how it is manipulated with each previous node.

I’d love to do a Zoom session open to all where I start with making a connection to the Flex SmartSDR CAT via IP (easier for me than serial) and go step by step to get info, parse it, then format to display on the dashboard. This is pretty straightforward for some but will assist others who want to have a CAT (or CI-V) connection and be able to communicate to and from the radio.

Thoughts?

73
Dave wo2x


On Jul 30, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Bruce Horn <bhorn@...> wrote:

?
Dave, a couple of thoughts:

1) QEX seems like a good publication for a more technical article on ham radio applications of Node-RED.

2) Have you asked the ARRL whether they'd be interested in publishing a book?

73 de Bruce, WA7BNM? ?(bhorn@...)


From: "David De Coons wo2x" <RocketNJ@...>
To: "nodered-hamradio" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 9:30:01 AM
Subject: [nodered-hamradio] Node Red article in QST September issue

Hi All,

?

Myself and Mike Walker wrote an article for QST magazine on Node Red. It will be published in the upcoming September issue. I didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag until I was sure it would be published.

?

Some of you may find it interesting but it is really an overview of Node Red being used in the ham radio world. It was not very technical but an overview to get more people interested.? The ARRL has expressed interest in possibly putting a page up on their site dedicated to Node Red.

?

I am also working on a project with the ARRL staff to leverage Node Red in their W1HQ station and possibly expand to the W1AW stations as well. The W1HQ station currently consist of a Flex 6600m and Power Genius XL amp at station 1, An Icom 9100 (soon to be replaced with a 9700 and an amp to be determined at station 2. Station 3 is left for any radios they want to bring in and use to test or during contests. They are using The Green Heron Everywhere server software and wireless base stations with a HamPlus 4x12 antenna switch and Green Heron RT21 controller. Jeff from Green Heron was very gracious when I spoke to him about interfacing Node Red to his GHE server. The ARRL gave me their RT21 controller to take home so I could write a flow to talk to it with Tormod’s clickable azimuth map (Tormod, that is wonderful work you did!). unfortunately I have to give it back so I ordered one and received it yesterday. Already installed in my station.

?

I’ll be doing another trip to Newington in a couple of weeks as the W1HQ station was in the very early stages of being rebuilt. I will get pictures at that time as they should have more equipment installed then.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?

?



Thank You,
Domenick WA2GOT


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Re: Node Red article in QST September issue

 

Dave,

I think it's great that you and others are very willing to help members of this group both individually and collectively. However, I think a book that covers the basics of Node-RED and then explains how to apply those basics to typical ham radio problems would be useful to a wider audience and seems consistent with some of the other softcover books published by the ARRL. This group appears to consist of people with a wide range of technical backgrounds, so some just need a little nudge in the right direction to solve a problem, while others are mystified by the basic components and terminology. Many will perfectly understand your last paragraph below, while others will be lost.

73 de Bruce, WA7BNM? ?(bhorn@...)


From: "David De Coons wo2x" <RocketNJ@...>
To: "nodered-hamradio" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 11:28:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Node Red article in QST September issue

Hi Bruce
A follow up article taking a dive “under the hood” is a good idea for QEX.

Not sure on a book. There are plenty of reference sites and videos available. I am not a programmer by trade but love to find answers on how to get things accomplished (not just Node Red). Through my whole career I’ve never been afraid to take on a challenge.

My best advice to people here that might think Node Red is too difficult is to start with a couple of basic flows. Make use of debug nodes and connect the debug node to various node outputs to watch the payload (data) and observe how it is manipulated with each previous node.

I’d love to do a Zoom session open to all where I start with making a connection to the Flex SmartSDR CAT via IP (easier for me than serial) and go step by step to get info, parse it, then format to display on the dashboard. This is pretty straightforward for some but will assist others who want to have a CAT (or CI-V) connection and be able to communicate to and from the radio.

Thoughts?

73
Dave wo2x


On Jul 30, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Bruce Horn <bhorn@...> wrote:

Dave, a couple of thoughts:

1) QEX seems like a good publication for a more technical article on ham radio applications of Node-RED.

2) Have you asked the ARRL whether they'd be interested in publishing a book?

73 de Bruce, WA7BNM? ?(bhorn@...)


From: "David De Coons wo2x" <RocketNJ@...>
To: "nodered-hamradio" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 9:30:01 AM
Subject: [nodered-hamradio] Node Red article in QST September issue

Hi All,

?

Myself and Mike Walker wrote an article for QST magazine on Node Red. It will be published in the upcoming September issue. I didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag until I was sure it would be published.

?

Some of you may find it interesting but it is really an overview of Node Red being used in the ham radio world. It was not very technical but an overview to get more people interested. ?The ARRL has expressed interest in possibly putting a page up on their site dedicated to Node Red.

?

I am also working on a project with the ARRL staff to leverage Node Red in their W1HQ station and possibly expand to the W1AW stations as well. The W1HQ station currently consist of a Flex 6600m and Power Genius XL amp at station 1, An Icom 9100 (soon to be replaced with a 9700 and an amp to be determined at station 2. Station 3 is left for any radios they want to bring in and use to test or during contests. They are using The Green Heron Everywhere server software and wireless base stations with a HamPlus 4x12 antenna switch and Green Heron RT21 controller. Jeff from Green Heron was very gracious when I spoke to him about interfacing Node Red to his GHE server. The ARRL gave me their RT21 controller to take home so I could write a flow to talk to it with Tormod’s clickable azimuth map (Tormod, that is wonderful work you did!). unfortunately I have to give it back so I ordered one and received it yesterday. Already installed in my station.

?

I’ll be doing another trip to Newington in a couple of weeks as the W1HQ station was in the very early stages of being rebuilt. I will get pictures at that time as they should have more equipment installed then.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?

?




Re: Node Red article in QST September issue

 

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Hi Bruce

A follow up article taking a dive “under the hood” is a good idea for QEX.

Not sure on a book. There are plenty of reference sites and videos available. I am not a programmer by trade but love to find answers on how to get things accomplished (not just Node Red). Through my whole career I’ve never been afraid to take on a challenge.

My best advice to people here that might think Node Red is too difficult is to start with a couple of basic flows. Make use of debug nodes and connect the debug node to various node outputs to watch the payload (data) and observe how it is manipulated with each previous node.

I’d love to do a Zoom session open to all where I start with making a connection to the Flex SmartSDR CAT via IP (easier for me than serial) and go step by step to get info, parse it, then format to display on the dashboard. This is pretty straightforward for some but will assist others who want to have a CAT (or CI-V) connection and be able to communicate to and from the radio.

Thoughts?

73
Dave wo2x


On Jul 30, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Bruce Horn <bhorn@...> wrote:

?
Dave, a couple of thoughts:

1) QEX seems like a good publication for a more technical article on ham radio applications of Node-RED.

2) Have you asked the ARRL whether they'd be interested in publishing a book?

73 de Bruce, WA7BNM? ?(bhorn@...)


From: "David De Coons wo2x" <RocketNJ@...>
To: "nodered-hamradio" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 9:30:01 AM
Subject: [nodered-hamradio] Node Red article in QST September issue

Hi All,

?

Myself and Mike Walker wrote an article for QST magazine on Node Red. It will be published in the upcoming September issue. I didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag until I was sure it would be published.

?

Some of you may find it interesting but it is really an overview of Node Red being used in the ham radio world. It was not very technical but an overview to get more people interested. ?The ARRL has expressed interest in possibly putting a page up on their site dedicated to Node Red.

?

I am also working on a project with the ARRL staff to leverage Node Red in their W1HQ station and possibly expand to the W1AW stations as well. The W1HQ station currently consist of a Flex 6600m and Power Genius XL amp at station 1, An Icom 9100 (soon to be replaced with a 9700 and an amp to be determined at station 2. Station 3 is left for any radios they want to bring in and use to test or during contests. They are using The Green Heron Everywhere server software and wireless base stations with a HamPlus 4x12 antenna switch and Green Heron RT21 controller. Jeff from Green Heron was very gracious when I spoke to him about interfacing Node Red to his GHE server. The ARRL gave me their RT21 controller to take home so I could write a flow to talk to it with Tormod’s clickable azimuth map (Tormod, that is wonderful work you did!). unfortunately I have to give it back so I ordered one and received it yesterday. Already installed in my station.

?

I’ll be doing another trip to Newington in a couple of weeks as the W1HQ station was in the very early stages of being rebuilt. I will get pictures at that time as they should have more equipment installed then.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?

?



Re: Node Red article in QST September issue

 

Dave, a couple of thoughts:

1) QEX seems like a good publication for a more technical article on ham radio applications of Node-RED.

2) Have you asked the ARRL whether they'd be interested in publishing a book?

73 de Bruce, WA7BNM? ?(bhorn@...)


From: "David De Coons wo2x" <RocketNJ@...>
To: "nodered-hamradio" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 9:30:01 AM
Subject: [nodered-hamradio] Node Red article in QST September issue

Hi All,

?

Myself and Mike Walker wrote an article for QST magazine on Node Red. It will be published in the upcoming September issue. I didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag until I was sure it would be published.

?

Some of you may find it interesting but it is really an overview of Node Red being used in the ham radio world. It was not very technical but an overview to get more people interested. ?The ARRL has expressed interest in possibly putting a page up on their site dedicated to Node Red.

?

I am also working on a project with the ARRL staff to leverage Node Red in their W1HQ station and possibly expand to the W1AW stations as well. The W1HQ station currently consist of a Flex 6600m and Power Genius XL amp at station 1, An Icom 9100 (soon to be replaced with a 9700 and an amp to be determined at station 2. Station 3 is left for any radios they want to bring in and use to test or during contests. They are using The Green Heron Everywhere server software and wireless base stations with a HamPlus 4x12 antenna switch and Green Heron RT21 controller. Jeff from Green Heron was very gracious when I spoke to him about interfacing Node Red to his GHE server. The ARRL gave me their RT21 controller to take home so I could write a flow to talk to it with Tormod’s clickable azimuth map (Tormod, that is wonderful work you did!). unfortunately I have to give it back so I ordered one and received it yesterday. Already installed in my station.

?

I’ll be doing another trip to Newington in a couple of weeks as the W1HQ station was in the very early stages of being rebuilt. I will get pictures at that time as they should have more equipment installed then.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?

?



Node Red article in QST September issue

 

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Hi All,

?

Myself and Mike Walker wrote an article for QST magazine on Node Red. It will be published in the upcoming September issue. I didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag until I was sure it would be published.

?

Some of you may find it interesting but it is really an overview of Node Red being used in the ham radio world. It was not very technical but an overview to get more people interested. ?The ARRL has expressed interest in possibly putting a page up on their site dedicated to Node Red.

?

I am also working on a project with the ARRL staff to leverage Node Red in their W1HQ station and possibly expand to the W1AW stations as well. The W1HQ station currently consist of a Flex 6600m and Power Genius XL amp at station 1, An Icom 9100 (soon to be replaced with a 9700 and an amp to be determined at station 2. Station 3 is left for any radios they want to bring in and use to test or during contests. They are using The Green Heron Everywhere server software and wireless base stations with a HamPlus 4x12 antenna switch and Green Heron RT21 controller. Jeff from Green Heron was very gracious when I spoke to him about interfacing Node Red to his GHE server. The ARRL gave me their RT21 controller to take home so I could write a flow to talk to it with Tormod’s clickable azimuth map (Tormod, that is wonderful work you did!). unfortunately I have to give it back so I ordered one and received it yesterday. Already installed in my station.

?

I’ll be doing another trip to Newington in a couple of weeks as the W1HQ station was in the very early stages of being rebuilt. I will get pictures at that time as they should have more equipment installed then.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?

?


Re: Pi 4 Image Error

 

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Follow the WiKi for either 32 bit or 64 bit OS. Both work on my Pi4 with 4 GB ram.?

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 30, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Santiago Mejia via groups.io <hi8smx@...> wrote:

?Goooooood morning all. Yes, I know, I?ve been missing in action for the past several months but I am back now. I have a Pi4 that I bought some time ago and that I hadn?t use and now whaetver OS I use it doesn?t boot up. Some people are saying that I am using an imagine for Pi3 and that should I use an image made for Pi4.

Anyone, maybe Alan or Dave has a Pi4 image with the OS, Node Red, etc...that could share?

73, Santiago

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HI8O (former HI8SMX) & KB8SM
web:?
YouTube: hamworldonline
Twitter: @hamworldonline
Instagram: hamworldonline


Pi 4 Image Error

 

Goooooood morning all. Yes, I know, I?ve been missing in action for the past several months but I am back now. I have a Pi4 that I bought some time ago and that I hadn?t use and now whaetver OS I use it doesn?t boot up. Some people are saying that I am using an imagine for Pi3 and that should I use an image made for Pi4.

Anyone, maybe Alan or Dave has a Pi4 image with the OS, Node Red, etc...that could share?

73, Santiago

--
______________
73 de Santiago
GLAARG VE 2791E
HI8O (former HI8SMX) & KB8SM
web:?
YouTube: hamworldonline
Twitter: @hamworldonline
Instagram: hamworldonline


Re: FRStack Errors

 
Edited

Mark that looks like the default settings.? ?In an attempt to stop the logs I set it to:
{
? "Logging": {
? ? "LogLevel": {
? ? ? "Default": "Error",
? ? ? "Microsoft": "Error",
? ? ? "Microsoft.Hosting.Lifetime": "Error",
? ? ? "Flex.Smoothlake": "None",
? ? ? "FRStackWebApi.Controllers": "None"
? ? ? }
? ? },

I just went back and changed it back to:
{
? "Logging": {
? ? "LogLevel": {
? ? ? "Default": "Warning",
? ? ? "Microsoft": "Warning",
? ? ? "Microsoft.Hosting.Lifetime": "Information",
? ? ? "Flex.Smoothlake": "Warning",
? ? ? "FRStackWebApi.Controllers": "Warning"
? ? ? }
? ? },

Now restarting FRStackWebApi see the following :

Jul 30 10:28:21 raspberrypi dotnet: Discovered 10.0.0.238 FLEX-6600: 0720-1007-6600-5639 (FM19bg 0x215ADFCE) fpc_mac:
Jul 30 10:28:21 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio: FindEqualizerByEQSelect(RX) returned null
Jul 30 10:28:21 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio: FindEqualizerByEQSelect(RX) returned null
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: VitaSocket: Newly created on port 4991
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Profile List Problem!
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio: FindEqualizerByEQSelect(TX) returned null
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio: FindEqualizerByEQSelect(TX) returned null
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter CODEC Signal strength of CODEC output - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter SC_MIC Signal strength of MIC output - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter SC_FILT_1 Signal strength after Filter 1 - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter ALC Signal strength of signals after SW ALC (SSB Peak) - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter PRE_WAVE_AGC Signal strength before Waveform AGC - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter PRE_WAVE Signal strength before Waveform Shim - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter SC_FILT_2 Signal strength after Filter 2 - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter B4RAMP Signal strength of signals before the ramp - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter AFRAMP Signal strength of signals after the ramp - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter POST_P Signal strength after all processing is done but before attenuation for power control - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter GAIN Signal strength after Gain - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter +13.8B Main radio input voltage at CPU (continuous) - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Radio Meter MAINFAN Main radio fan RPM - NO Data Ready handler
Jul 30 10:28:22 raspberrypi dotnet: Profile List Problem!
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