Re: SteppIR SDA 100 serial data
Thanks for the flow Alan. I was able to see the conversion method and it does work. Now my problem is understanding how the SDA100 works.?
When I manually change bands I get different results. Some bands work perfect and the flow follows the controller settings. While other bands do not appear to work correctly with different frequencies being output from the flow than what the controller shows. Plus the mode does not display properly.
I find the inconsistent results per band very odd. Could this somehow be a serial connection issue? It doesn't seem so as certain bands work 100% of the time.
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Gary
K6HN
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Well they have had a
couple of updates recently so they do have another programmer.
You might ask again for
us, sure would be a treat. ;-)
tnx Mike 73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 3:02 PM, Michael Walker
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I have an RF2K here.? I am not using it at the
moment, but the only control is via CAT.
I've asked him for a TCP socket, but they haven't gotten
there yet.? They have had an issue with their original
programmer who passed away in the middle of the project.
Mike va3mw
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 3:43 PM
Dwight Bosselman < NS9I@...> wrote:
I like your idea
- I ordered it with arrival on Sunday. ;-)
tnx Dave 73
Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 12:59 PM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
The advantage of the cable is to
have the amp tune to the correct band and if you are
using the antenna tuner in the amp it will preset to
the correct tuning before transmitting. Otherwise when
you first transmit you can be transmitting into a bad
load (wrong band or mis-tuned antenna tuner).
Personally I much prefer to have the amp and tuner on
the right frequency before applying RF.
?
That is why I dislike the new
PalStar solid state amp, no CAT input. I do not want
to band change and have to send a couple of dits
first.
?
I wonder if the new controller that
replaced the Arduino is capable of a telnet connection
for control and monitoring? That would be a question
for Reinhardt. The KPA1500 and PG-XL are much better
amps for remote operation.
?
Dave wo2x
?
?
?
?
Yes not much being heard from Reinhardt lately.
Same for Flex, lotsa hype about a new version
of their firmware for the last month, turned out
only to be for those that have their Amp.
So Dave , with what Andy has has said, is it
really worth getting that cable?
Thanks to all!
73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 11:17 AM, Andy (KU7T)
wrote:
Hi,
?
I know that the RF-Kit amp does
not allow for anything be controlled via CAT, except
the frequency. Also, it does also support RF
autosensing, so the CAT is not even needed.
?
What is the exact purpose of a
flow for the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see
the output power, SWR and stuff like that but none
of these will be available on CAT.? I had hoped that
RFKIT would support these things by now, but their
development has pretty much been stalled for years.
?
73
Andy
KU7T
?
Sent from
for Windows 10
?
?
Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.
Amazon opens active on another one of my
orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or
something?
?
On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De
Coons wo2x wrote:
This is the one I have tested
and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a
bootleg
Sent from my waxed string
and tin cans.?
On Mar 5, 2021,
at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...>
wrote:
?
Hi Dave
I don't have one of those cables. I
see a variety on-line.
Would this fill the bill?
?
T U 73 Dwight NS9I
?
On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM,
David De Coons wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable
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I have an RF2K here.? I am not using it at the moment, but the only control is via CAT.
I've asked him for a TCP socket, but they haven't gotten there yet.? They have had an issue with their original programmer who passed away in the middle of the project.
Mike va3mw
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 3:43 PM Dwight Bosselman < NS9I@...> wrote:
I like your idea - I
ordered it with arrival on Sunday. ;-)
tnx Dave 73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 12:59 PM, David De Coons
wo2x wrote:
The advantage of the cable is to have the
amp tune to the correct band and if you are using the antenna
tuner in the amp it will preset to the correct tuning before
transmitting. Otherwise when you first transmit you can be
transmitting into a bad load (wrong band or mis-tuned antenna
tuner). Personally I much prefer to have the amp and tuner on
the right frequency before applying RF.
?
That is why I dislike the new PalStar solid
state amp, no CAT input. I do not want to band change and have
to send a couple of dits first.
?
I wonder if the new controller that
replaced the Arduino is capable of a telnet connection for
control and monitoring? That would be a question for
Reinhardt. The KPA1500 and PG-XL are much better amps for
remote operation.
?
Dave wo2x
?
?
?
?
Yes not much being heard from Reinhardt
lately.
Same for Flex, lotsa hype about a new
version of their firmware for the last month, turned out
only to be for those that have their Amp.
So Dave , with what Andy has has said, is
it really worth getting that cable?
Thanks to all!
73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 11:17 AM, Andy (KU7T) wrote:
Hi,
?
I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow
for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency.
Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not
even needed.
?
What is the exact purpose of a flow for
the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power,
SWR and stuff like that but none of these will be available
on CAT.? I had hoped that RFKIT would support these things
by now, but their development has pretty much been stalled
for years.
?
73
Andy
KU7T
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.
Amazon opens active on another one of my
orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or
something?
?
On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons
wo2x wrote:
This is the one I have tested and
works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg
Sent from my waxed string and tin
cans.?
On
Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...>
wrote:
?
Hi Dave
I don't have one of those cables.
I see a variety on-line.
Would this fill the bill?
?
T U 73 Dwight NS9I
?
On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De
Coons wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable
|
I like your idea - I
ordered it with arrival on Sunday. ;-)
tnx Dave 73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 12:59 PM, David De Coons
wo2x wrote:
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The advantage of the cable is to have the
amp tune to the correct band and if you are using the antenna
tuner in the amp it will preset to the correct tuning before
transmitting. Otherwise when you first transmit you can be
transmitting into a bad load (wrong band or mis-tuned antenna
tuner). Personally I much prefer to have the amp and tuner on
the right frequency before applying RF.
?
That is why I dislike the new PalStar solid
state amp, no CAT input. I do not want to band change and have
to send a couple of dits first.
?
I wonder if the new controller that
replaced the Arduino is capable of a telnet connection for
control and monitoring? That would be a question for
Reinhardt. The KPA1500 and PG-XL are much better amps for
remote operation.
?
Dave wo2x
?
?
?
?
Yes not much being heard from Reinhardt
lately.
Same for Flex, lotsa hype about a new
version of their firmware for the last month, turned out
only to be for those that have their Amp.
So Dave , with what Andy has has said, is
it really worth getting that cable?
Thanks to all!
73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 11:17 AM, Andy (KU7T) wrote:
Hi,
?
I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow
for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency.
Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not
even needed.
?
What is the exact purpose of a flow for
the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power,
SWR and stuff like that but none of these will be available
on CAT. ?I had hoped that RFKIT would support these things
by now, but their development has pretty much been stalled
for years.
?
73
Andy
KU7T
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.
Amazon opens active on another one of my
orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or
something?
?
On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons
wo2x wrote:
This is the one I have tested and
works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg
Sent from my waxed string and tin
cans.?
On
Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...>
wrote:
?
Hi Dave
I don't have one of those cables.
I see a variety on-line.
Would this fill the bill?
?
T U 73 Dwight NS9I
?
On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De
Coons wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable
|
Thanks Alan,
This would be over the internet (WAN), but the stations do use a VPN already to make the logging work.
Before you put any effort into this, let me check with the team that they would actually use it! Although I think my ideas are great, not everyone always shares that!
BW
Steve?
|
The advantage of the cable is to have the amp tune to the correct band and if you are using the antenna tuner in the amp it will preset to the correct tuning before transmitting. Otherwise when you first transmit you can be transmitting into a bad load (wrong band or mis-tuned antenna tuner). Personally I much prefer to have the amp and tuner on the right frequency before applying RF. ? That is why I dislike the new PalStar solid state amp, no CAT input. I do not want to band change and have to send a couple of dits first. ? I wonder if the new controller that replaced the Arduino is capable of a telnet connection for control and monitoring? That would be a question for Reinhardt. The KPA1500 and PG-XL are much better amps for remote operation. ? Dave wo2x ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Dwight Bosselman Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 1:32 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] rf-kit rf2k-s flows? ? Yes not much being heard from Reinhardt lately. Same for Flex, lotsa hype about a new version of their firmware for the last month, turned out only to be for those that have their Amp. So Dave , with what Andy has has said, is it really worth getting that cable? Thanks to all! 73 Dwight NS9I On 3/5/2021 11:17 AM, Andy (KU7T) wrote: Hi, ? I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency. Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not even needed. ? What is the exact purpose of a flow for the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power, SWR and stuff like that but none of these will be available on CAT. ?I had hoped that RFKIT would support these things by now, but their development has pretty much been stalled for years. ? 73 Andy KU7T ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave. Amazon opens active on another one of my orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or something? ? On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote: This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:
? Hi Dave I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line. Would this fill the bill? ? T U 73 Dwight NS9I ? On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote: USB-A to USB-A crossover cable
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Yes not much being heard
from Reinhardt lately.
Same for Flex, lotsa
hype about a new version of their firmware for the last month,
turned out only to be for those that have their Amp.
So Dave , with what Andy
has has said, is it really worth getting that cable?
Thanks to all!
73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 11:17 AM, Andy (KU7T)
wrote:
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Hi,
?
I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow
for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency.
Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not
even needed.
?
What is the exact purpose of a flow for the
RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power, SWR and
stuff like that but none of these will be available on CAT. ?I
had hoped that RFKIT would support these things by now, but
their development has pretty much been stalled for years.
?
73
Andy
KU7T
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.
Amazon opens active on another one of my orders.
Strange. Can you give me a model number or something?
?
On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons wo2x
wrote:
This is the one I have tested and works.
Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg
Sent from my waxed string and tin
cans.?
On Mar
5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman
<NS9I@...>
wrote:
?
Hi Dave
I don't have one of those cables. I see a
variety on-line.
Would this fill the bill?
?
T U 73 Dwight NS9I
?
On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De
Coons wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable
|
The FlexRadio flow already has a global TX variable. I think FRStack also can do that. Use that to drive a relay for the TX Inhibit input on radio. Only down side is the Tx Inhibit will not stop a radio that is already transmitting (think two radios keying up at same time). If you put logic in to ensure other radios are not transmitting then you introduce delay, including network latency.?
73 Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
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On Mar 5, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
?Steve
Yes, we could do that easily in Node-Red.
If the four stations are co-located on the same LAN, you need one instance of Node-Red. ?
Run the instance of Node-Red on any machine you select, Raspberry, Windows, or Mac.
If the stations are not co-located, you need one instance of Node-Red for each location. ?Again, you may already have a machine available to run Node-Red, so the cost depends. ? ?I would connect each remote (WAN) operating the station via TailScale (secure NPN) and MQTT broker
Are you using N1MM as your source to know which TX is in service? ?I guess you would need multiple N1MM instances for four operators, correct?
Or, you could use an interface from each transceiver, to detect actual TX and "inhibit" TX. ?Already done for the Flex Line. ?I cannot address other lines.
I could put something together, if you are using Flex radios, ?and if you can give me a better visual of the operator's position to one another.
Alan
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Try this link. Was at Apple store. Expensive lesson today. Cracked glass on my development iPad Pro 11”. $499 to replace. They don’t repair them. Ughh. Added Apple Care + so next time will be $50.?
73 Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
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On Mar 5, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Andy (KU7T) <ku7t@...> wrote:
?
Hi,
?
I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency. Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not even needed.
?
What is the exact purpose of a flow for the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power, SWR and stuff like that but none of these will be available on CAT. ?I had hoped that RFKIT would support these things by now, but their
development has pretty much been stalled for years.
?
73
Andy
KU7T
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.
Amazon opens active on another one of my orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or something?
?
On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg
Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman
<NS9I@...> wrote:
?
Hi Dave
I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line.
Would this fill the bill?
?
T U 73 Dwight NS9I
?
On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable
|
Steve
Yes, we could do that easily in Node-Red.
If the four stations are co-located on the same LAN, you need one instance of Node-Red. ?
Run the instance of Node-Red on any machine you select, Raspberry, Windows, or Mac.
If the stations are not co-located, you need one instance of Node-Red for each location. ?Again, you may already have a machine available to run Node-Red, so the cost depends. ? ?I would connect each remote (WAN) operating the station via TailScale (secure NPN) and MQTT broker
Are you using N1MM as your source to know which TX is in service? ?I guess you would need multiple N1MM instances for four operators, correct?
Or, you could use an interface from each transceiver, to detect actual TX and "inhibit" TX. ?Already done for the Flex Line. ?I cannot address other lines.
I could put something together, if you are using Flex radios, ?and if you can give me a better visual of the operator's position to one another.
Alan
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Steve
If I understand your request you have four operators in four different locations. When one grabs the baton that inhibits the other three station transmitters.
I think you can do that with a raspberry Pi in each location. Each running node-red. They can communicate to each other using a mqtt broker to send messages. For example operator one grabs the baton and send a message to all the pi’s that he has the baton. When the other pi’s receive the message they can inhibit their local transmitter via grip pins.
If I got it I would sugggest you look up some node-red tutorials on mqtt broker and try it with two pi’s.
If I didn’t get just blow off my response.
On Friday, March 5, 2021, 10:00 AM, Steve Bunting M0BPQ <steve@...> wrote: Hi Alan,
I was specifically thinking about mult-multi unlimited distributed systems. For example you have four stations on 10m CW, one each in the north south east and west of any given DXCC entity to take advantage of the different propagation but only one signal is allowed on the air at any time.
In teams I have done this with, people are using an internet chat to indicate that they have found a multiplier and ask others to stop txing whilst they work it, or have good propagation so request the "baton" to enable them to be the run station.
EA4TX has produced some hardware that allows you to take it one step further and used the TX inhibit to lock the tx out on stations any given band mode when another is transmitting. This allows stations to interleave QSOs such as?
The EA4TX system is about $200 per station, so too expensive to use 2-3 times a year!
I was wondering if every station was running NR?then (subject to all the radios being supported by NR) it could to tell when any given station was transmitting. If NR could communicate across the WAN then the instances at other stations could use a software or hardware GPIO TX-inhibit to lock their stations into RX only and ensure only one station was on the air at once.?
The hardware bit is easy -its just a GPIO pin being activated! I don't understand NR enough to know if instances talking across the internet is possible.
Hope that makes sense? I know what I mean ;)
73
Steve, M0BPQ?
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Hi,
?
I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency. Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not even needed.
?
What is the exact purpose of a flow for the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power, SWR and stuff like that but none of these will be available on CAT. ?I had hoped that RFKIT would support these things by now, but their
development has pretty much been stalled for years.
?
73
Andy
KU7T
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
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From: Dwight Bosselman
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] rf-kit rf2k-s flows?
?
Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.
Amazon opens active on another one of my orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or something?
?
On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg
Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman
<NS9I@...> wrote:
?
Hi Dave
I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line.
Would this fill the bill?
?
T U 73 Dwight NS9I
?
On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable
|
Hmm, I can't get that to
come up Dave.
Amazon opens active on
another one of my orders. Strange. Can you give me a model
number or something?
On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons
wo2x wrote:
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This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset
and not a bootleg
Dave
Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight
Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:
?
Hi Dave
I don't have one
of those cables. I see a variety on-line.
Would this fill
the bill?
T U 73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De
Coons wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable
|
This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg
Dave
Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:
?
Hi Dave
I don't have one of
those cables. I see a variety on-line.
Would this fill the
bill?
T U 73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons
wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable
|
Hi Dave
I don't have one of
those cables. I see a variety on-line.
Would this fill the
bill?
or
or does it have to have a network in the middle such as this?
T U 73 Dwight NS9I
On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons
wo2x wrote:
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Should use Kenwood CAT protocol, same as Flex. USB-A to USB-A crossover cable from Flex USB to amp for amp following Flex TX freq.
I do not know if RF-Kit group has published the programming commands via Ethernet.
Dave wo2x
Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.
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On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:
?Has anyone done a flow for the above mentioned amplifier?
thank you 73 Dwight NS9I
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Has anyone done a flow for the above mentioned amplifier?
thank you 73 Dwight NS9I
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Hi Alan,
I was specifically thinking about mult-multi unlimited distributed systems. For example you have four stations on 10m CW, one each in the north south east and west of any given DXCC entity to take advantage of the different propagation but only one signal is allowed on the air at any time.
In teams I have done this with, people are using an internet chat to indicate that they have found a multiplier and ask others to stop txing whilst they work it, or have good propagation so request the "baton" to enable them to be the run station.
EA4TX has produced some hardware that allows you to take it one step further and used the TX inhibit to lock the tx out on stations any given band mode when another is transmitting. This allows stations to interleave QSOs such as?
The EA4TX system is about $200 per station, so too expensive to use 2-3 times a year!
I was wondering if every station was running NR?then (subject to all the radios being supported by NR) it could to tell when any given station was transmitting. If NR could communicate across the WAN then the instances at other stations could use a software or hardware GPIO TX-inhibit to lock their stations into RX only and ensure only one station was on the air at once.?
The hardware bit is easy -its just a GPIO pin being activated! I don't understand NR enough to know if instances talking across the internet is possible.
Hope that makes sense? I know what I mean ;)
73
Steve, M0BPQ?
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Re: SteppIR SDA 100 serial data
Try ? var b = Buffer.from(msg.payload,"ascii"); msg.payload = b; return msg; ? 73 Dave wo2x ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Alan Blind, WA9WUD Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:18 AM To: [email protected] Group Moderators < [email protected]> Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] SteppIR SDA 100 serial data ? Yes, the SDA100 will show the SteppIR frequency with no antenna connected. Attached is my ?SteppIR flow.? I used a TCP to Serial converter, but you can replace my TCP nodes with serial nodes. ? However, I found the Node-Red serial nodes to struggle with managing the in/out data flow.? From the flow, you can see?how the hex was handled.? I used an older flow from Andreas and Mike, who did the hex conversion work. I have since moved to use the FRStack based SteppIR flow.? I found the FRstack serial Com communications to work much better. Dave, WO2X has a good understanding?of hex conversions if you want to go deeper into understanding.
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Re: SteppIR SDA 100 serial data
Gary
Yes, the SDA100 will show the SteppIR frequency with no antenna connected.
Attached is my ?SteppIR flow.? I used a TCP to Serial converter, but you can replace my TCP nodes with serial nodes. ? However, I found the Node-Red serial nodes to struggle with managing the in/out data flow.?
From the flow, you can see?how the hex was handled.? I used an older flow from Andreas and Mike, who did the hex conversion work.
I have since moved to use the FRStack based SteppIR flow.? I found the FRstack serial Com communications to work much better.
Dave, WO2X has a good understanding?of hex conversions if you want to go deeper into understanding.
Alan WA9WUD
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Dave wo2x
