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Re: rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

Dwight Bosselman
 

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Yes not much being heard from Reinhardt lately.

Same for Flex, lotsa hype about a new version of their firmware for the last month, turned out only to be for those that have their Amp.

So Dave , with what Andy has has said, is it really worth getting that cable?

Thanks to all!

73 Dwight NS9I

On 3/5/2021 11:17 AM, Andy (KU7T) wrote:

Hi,

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I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency. Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not even needed.

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What is the exact purpose of a flow for the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power, SWR and stuff like that but none of these will be available on CAT. ?I had hoped that RFKIT would support these things by now, but their development has pretty much been stalled for years.

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73

Andy

KU7T

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Sent from for Windows 10

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From: Dwight Bosselman
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

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Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.

Amazon opens active on another one of my orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or something?

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On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg

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Dave

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Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?



On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:

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Hi Dave

I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line.

Would this fill the bill?

?

T U 73 Dwight NS9I

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On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

USB-A to USB-A crossover cable

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Re: Interlocking

 

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The FlexRadio flow already has a global TX variable. I think FRStack also can do that. Use that to drive a relay for the TX Inhibit input on radio. Only down side is the Tx Inhibit will not stop a radio that is already transmitting (think two radios keying up at same time). If you put logic in to ensure other radios are not transmitting then you introduce delay, including network latency.?

73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Mar 5, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Steve

Yes, we could do that easily in Node-Red.

If the four stations are co-located on the same LAN, you need one instance of Node-Red. ?

Run the instance of Node-Red on any machine you select, Raspberry, Windows, or Mac.

If the stations are not co-located, you need one instance of Node-Red for each location. ?Again, you may already have a machine available to run Node-Red, so the cost depends. ? ?I would connect each remote (WAN) operating the station via TailScale (secure NPN) and MQTT broker

Are you using N1MM as your source to know which TX is in service? ?I guess you would need multiple N1MM instances for four operators, correct?

Or, you could use an interface from each transceiver, to detect actual TX and "inhibit" TX. ?Already done for the Flex Line. ?I cannot address other lines.

I could put something together, if you are using Flex radios, ?and if you can give me a better visual of the operator's position to one another.

Alan


Re: rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

 

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Try this link. Was at Apple store. Expensive lesson today. Cracked glass on my development iPad Pro 11”. $499 to replace. They don’t repair them. Ughh. Added Apple Care + so next time will be $50.?


73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Mar 5, 2021, at 12:17 PM, Andy (KU7T) <ku7t@...> wrote:

?

Hi,

?

I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency. Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not even needed.

?

What is the exact purpose of a flow for the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power, SWR and stuff like that but none of these will be available on CAT. ?I had hoped that RFKIT would support these things by now, but their development has pretty much been stalled for years.

?

73

Andy

KU7T

?

Sent from for Windows 10

?

From: Dwight Bosselman
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

?

Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.

Amazon opens active on another one of my orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or something?

?

On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg

?

Dave

?

?

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?



On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:

?

Hi Dave

I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line.

Would this fill the bill?

?

T U 73 Dwight NS9I

?

On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

USB-A to USB-A crossover cable

?


Re: Interlocking

 

Steve

Yes, we could do that easily in Node-Red.

If the four stations are co-located on the same LAN, you need one instance of Node-Red. ?

Run the instance of Node-Red on any machine you select, Raspberry, Windows, or Mac.

If the stations are not co-located, you need one instance of Node-Red for each location. ?Again, you may already have a machine available to run Node-Red, so the cost depends. ? ?I would connect each remote (WAN) operating the station via TailScale (secure NPN) and MQTT broker

Are you using N1MM as your source to know which TX is in service? ?I guess you would need multiple N1MM instances for four operators, correct?

Or, you could use an interface from each transceiver, to detect actual TX and "inhibit" TX. ?Already done for the Flex Line. ?I cannot address other lines.

I could put something together, if you are using Flex radios, ?and if you can give me a better visual of the operator's position to one another.

Alan


Re: Interlocking

 

Steve

If I understand your request you have four operators in four different locations. When one grabs the baton that inhibits the other three station transmitters.

I think you can do that with a raspberry Pi in each location. Each running node-red. They can communicate to each other using a mqtt broker to send messages. For example operator one grabs the baton and send a message to all the pi’s that he has the baton. When the other pi’s receive the message they can inhibit their local transmitter via grip pins.

If I got it I would sugggest you look up some node-red tutorials on mqtt broker and try it with two pi’s.

If I didn’t get just blow off my response.

73, Marty Wd9gym?




On Friday, March 5, 2021, 10:00 AM, Steve Bunting M0BPQ <steve@...> wrote:

Hi Alan,

I was specifically thinking about mult-multi unlimited distributed systems. For example you have four stations on 10m CW, one each in the north south east and west of any given DXCC entity to take advantage of the different propagation but only one signal is allowed on the air at any time.

In teams I have done this with, people are using an internet chat to indicate that they have found a multiplier and ask others to stop txing whilst they work it, or have good propagation so request the "baton" to enable them to be the run station.

EA4TX has produced some hardware that allows you to take it one step further and used the TX inhibit to lock the tx out on stations any given band mode when another is transmitting. This allows stations to interleave QSOs such as?



The EA4TX system is about $200 per station, so too expensive to use 2-3 times a year!

I was wondering if every station was running NR?then (subject to all the radios being supported by NR) it could to tell when any given station was transmitting. If NR could communicate across the WAN then the instances at other stations could use a software or hardware GPIO TX-inhibit to lock their stations into RX only and ensure only one station was on the air at once.?

The hardware bit is easy -its just a GPIO pin being activated! I don't understand NR enough to know if instances talking across the internet is possible.

Hope that makes sense? I know what I mean ;)
73
Steve, M0BPQ?


Re: rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

 

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Hi,

?

I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency. Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not even needed.

?

What is the exact purpose of a flow for the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power, SWR and stuff like that but none of these will be available on CAT. ?I had hoped that RFKIT would support these things by now, but their development has pretty much been stalled for years.

?

73

Andy

KU7T

?

Sent from for Windows 10

?

From: Dwight Bosselman
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

?

Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.

Amazon opens active on another one of my orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or something?

?

On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg

?

Dave

?

?

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?



On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:

?

Hi Dave

I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line.

Would this fill the bill?

?

T U 73 Dwight NS9I

?

On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

USB-A to USB-A crossover cable

?


Re: rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

Dwight Bosselman
 

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Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.

Amazon opens active on another one of my orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or something?


On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg

Dave




Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:

?

Hi Dave

I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line.

Would this fill the bill?


T U 73 Dwight NS9I


On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable


Re: rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

 

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This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg

Dave




Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:

?

Hi Dave

I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line.

Would this fill the bill?


T U 73 Dwight NS9I


On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
USB-A to USB-A crossover cable


Re: rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

Dwight Bosselman
 

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Hi Dave

I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line.

Would this fill the bill?

or

or does it have to have a network in the middle such as this?

T U 73 Dwight NS9I


On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

USB-A to USB-A crossover cable


Re: rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

 

Should use Kenwood CAT protocol, same as Flex. USB-A to USB-A crossover cable from Flex USB to amp for amp following Flex TX freq.

I do not know if RF-Kit group has published the programming commands via Ethernet.

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.

On Mar 5, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:

?Has anyone done a flow for the above mentioned amplifier?

thank you 73 Dwight NS9I







rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

Dwight Bosselman
 

Has anyone done a flow for the above mentioned amplifier?

thank you 73 Dwight NS9I


Re: Interlocking

 

Hi Alan,

I was specifically thinking about mult-multi unlimited distributed systems. For example you have four stations on 10m CW, one each in the north south east and west of any given DXCC entity to take advantage of the different propagation but only one signal is allowed on the air at any time.

In teams I have done this with, people are using an internet chat to indicate that they have found a multiplier and ask others to stop txing whilst they work it, or have good propagation so request the "baton" to enable them to be the run station.

EA4TX has produced some hardware that allows you to take it one step further and used the TX inhibit to lock the tx out on stations any given band mode when another is transmitting. This allows stations to interleave QSOs such as?



The EA4TX system is about $200 per station, so too expensive to use 2-3 times a year!

I was wondering if every station was running NR?then (subject to all the radios being supported by NR) it could to tell when any given station was transmitting. If NR could communicate across the WAN then the instances at other stations could use a software or hardware GPIO TX-inhibit to lock their stations into RX only and ensure only one station was on the air at once.?

The hardware bit is easy -its just a GPIO pin being activated! I don't understand NR enough to know if instances talking across the internet is possible.

Hope that makes sense? I know what I mean ;)
73
Steve, M0BPQ?


Re: SteppIR SDA 100 serial data

 

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Try

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var b = Buffer.from(msg.payload,"ascii");

msg.payload = b;

return msg;

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73

Dave wo2x

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alan Blind, WA9WUD
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 6:18 AM
To: [email protected] Group Moderators <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] SteppIR SDA 100 serial data

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Gary

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Yes, the SDA100 will show the SteppIR frequency with no antenna connected.

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Attached is my ?SteppIR flow.? I used a TCP to Serial converter, but you can replace my TCP nodes with serial nodes. ? However, I found the Node-Red serial nodes to struggle with managing the in/out data flow.?

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From the flow, you can see?how the hex was handled.? I used an older flow from Andreas and Mike, who did the hex conversion work.

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I have since moved to use the FRStack based SteppIR flow.? I found the FRstack serial Com communications to work much better.

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Dave, WO2X has a good understanding?of hex conversions if you want to go deeper into understanding.

?

Alan

WA9WUD


Re: SteppIR SDA 100 serial data

 

Gary

Yes, the SDA100 will show the SteppIR frequency with no antenna connected.

Attached is my ?SteppIR flow.? I used a TCP to Serial converter, but you can replace my TCP nodes with serial nodes. ? However, I found the Node-Red serial nodes to struggle with managing the in/out data flow.?

From the flow, you can see?how the hex was handled.? I used an older flow from Andreas and Mike, who did the hex conversion work.

I have since moved to use the FRStack based SteppIR flow.? I found the FRstack serial Com communications to work much better.

Dave, WO2X has a good understanding?of hex conversions if you want to go deeper into understanding.

Alan
WA9WUD


SteppIR SDA 100 serial data

 

Anyone connect directly to a SteppIR SDA100 through the serial interface with a node-red flow?
Does the data out serial port send the displayed frequency even though no antenna is connected?
I seem to get the same data no matter what I change the freq display to show.

Also any help on converting ascii characters to HEX values would be appreciated.

Thanks, Gary

--
Gary
K6HN


Re: Node Status with LED Indicator

 

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I thought it would. === is only used for numbers, not strings.?

73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Mar 4, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Kyle K <kylekrieg@...> wrote:

?Ok, update == did work.? Had another issue in the flow.??

It's working now.

Kyle
AA0Z


Re: Node Status with LED Indicator

 

Ok, update == did work.? Had another issue in the flow.??

It's working now.

Kyle
AA0Z


Re: Node Status with LED Indicator

 

So what do you see coming out of that function node?
--
Gary
K6HN


Re: Node Status with LED Indicator

 

== didn't work.

Kyle
AA0Z


Re: Node Status with LED Indicator

 

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Try == instead of ===

Dave wo2x


On Mar 3, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Dwayne Sinclair AB6A via groups.io <Dwayne_sinclair@...> wrote:

?Using triple === Are both objects and values the same?

-D

On Mar 3, 2021, at 3:03 PM, Kyle K <kylekrieg@...> wrote:

For the life of me I'm having trouble getting this to work.

I have a flow that connects to a cluster and displays spots in a table on the dashboard.

I have an LED to show the connection status.? Here is the debug from the status node.

<dummyfile.0.part>

status.fill : "red" = disconnected
status.fill : "gray" = no status
status.fill ; "green" = connected.

In my function coming off the status node, as I'm trying to send "true" or "false" to the LED node.
<dummyfile.1.part>

Any suggestions?? I've tried it with a change node, still no luck.??

Kyle
AA0Z