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PC Board Offer

 

I've been using Node Red for several years.? It's been fantastic to allow me to do various automation functions around the house without knowing how to code.
I have some extra input/output PC boards I designed to interface to a raspberry pi.? The board has 4 opto isolated inputs and connects to the generic cheap 8 relay boards found all over the Internet.
These are bare boards and you will need to supply your own parts. I have a small number of 26 pin headers and ribbon cables left.
I only want to cover postage and a couple of bucks for the 26 pin headers and ribbon cables. The boards are no charge.
If your interested, I can supply a .png of the schematic.? The picture shown here is a populated board I will be keeping but gives you an idea of what the board is.
Randy WB0VHB


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Bret

While you are waiting for Dave to help, it appears your W2 serial connection is working, because the backgrounds have changed color.

However, the W2 is not updating the data because it is locked up.? Dave is working on a fix for that.

Power cycle the W2 to force it to make a new connection.

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 11:45 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
image.png


Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Bret;

You are close.? Looks like the W2 is talking nice with the Raspberry Pi / Node-Red.

I will turn this over to Dave now to get you going

Dave - I received the same error message.? For me, installing the gate node on F, R, and S solved the problem.

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 11:45 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
image.png


Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

If you click on the error it should highlight the node where the error is located.
Cannot reas subsrt of undefined sounds like the node is not receiving data.

Bret, i¡¯m hitting the bed. Call me tomorrow whenever u have time. I can go over my process for debugging. I will also merge Alan¡¯s changes with the W2 flow I have in the file section.?

73
Dave wo2x


On Jul 18, 2020, at 11:45 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
<image.png>



Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

<Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png>


Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

<Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png>


Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

<Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png>


Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
image.png


Thanks a lotBretWX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Bret,

try to select by ID as I have shown in my previous email.?

Also on the command line run this wile plugging the USB device in and out to see which ones come and go:

watch ls /dev/serial/by-id/

Andreas, N6NU

On Jul 18, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves??I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via??<hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via??<hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--?
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--?
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx












Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Ok. I have no serial devices.?

73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?I no longer use the serial to TCP converter. ?If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking. ?I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes. ?Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes. ?Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



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HI8SMX
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YouTube: HI8SMX?
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Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

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Yes. I have it auto ranging plus ability to select range of bar graph manually. The numeric readout is always auto range.?

You can also select auto scan, sensor 1 or sensor 2. ?The button background colors change to reflect active mode.?

Alan has added a couple of tweaks which I will merge tomorrow.?

I¡¯ve added a couple of tweaks to the Flex Radio flow and am working on parsing more info from the radio. ?I will make that available too as Alan has a gate on the W2 flow which is picked up from the Flex Radio node.?

Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:27 PM, Andreas Junge <andreas@...> wrote:

?Dave,

I use auto range and and sensor scan in my code. That way I don't have to worry about which sensor is active at the time.

73, Andreas, N6NU


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

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I no longer use the serial to TCP converter. ?If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking. ?I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes. ?Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes. ?Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Dave,

I use auto range and and sensor scan in my code. That way I don't have to worry about which sensor is active at the time.

73, Andreas, N6NU


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

My experience is that it is best to specify the serial port by ID



This is especially helpful when using more than one serial adapter or multi serial adapter on the same Pi.?

It will protect your setup if the names get rearranged for whatever reason.

73, Andreas, N6NU


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes. ?Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes. ?Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Resending

Bret. Use these settings.?

Instead of the TCP in and TCP out nodes, use the TCP Request Node.? It has an input and an output, just substitute for the TCP in and the TCP out.

Here is a screenshot of the settings for the TCP Request Node I found works best:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Then, reboot Pi, power cycle W2.

It should work. ? Mine does.

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is?4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via?<hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via?<hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--?
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--?
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx



Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes. ?Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes. ?Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I¡¯ll be available tomorrow and Alan has added a few tweaks to the W2 flow.?

Give me a call in the morning. I will be up since two hours ahead of you?

Once I verify Alan¡¯s changes on Bret¡¯s W2 I will update the flow in the fle section.?

73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes. ?Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes. ?Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


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On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
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On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



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Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



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______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

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______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Also, if that does not work, do as I did

Instead of the TCP in and TCP out nodes, use the TCP Request Node.? It has an input and an output, just substitute for the TCP in and the TCP out.

Here is a screenshot of the settings for the TCP Request Node I found works best:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Then, reboot Pi, power cycle W2.

It should work. ? Mine does.

Alan


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx