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Re: W2 wattmeter support

 


Sorry, I meant to write BAND next to MODE. Yes, it works, shows DIGU.

My goal is to see for example:

VFO: 7.074
BAND: 40m
MODE: DIGU

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Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

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When on data modes it should show DIGU, DIGL, or RTTY.

Dave wo2x


On Jul 19, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Santiago Mejia via groups.io <hi8smx@...> wrote:

?Done. Nice update for the flow. I have been looking for the document where I can find all Flex strings and messages. I found some wiki but havent seen anything there. For example, how/where do I identify what part of the string carries the BAND data? I want to add DATA, next to MODE but have not found the info yet.

Is there any document or reference table or site where I can find it?

Santiago

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Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Done. Nice update for the flow. I have been looking for the document where I can find all Flex strings and messages. I found some wiki but havent seen anything there. For example, how/where do I identify what part of the string carries the BAND data? I want to add DATA, next to MODE but have not found the info yet.

Is there any document or reference table or site where I can find it?

Santiago

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HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

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Oh, you need to click on the three horizontal lines in upper right corner and go to Manage Pallette. ?Click on install and search for node-red-contrib-string and install it. Reboot the Pi

?

I am going to update my Readme file to add that to the list of required nodes.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Santiago Mejia via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 7:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] W2 wattmeter support

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I imported the flow, but Im getting an error in the following string:


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Re: W2 wattmeter support

 


I imported the flow, but Im getting an error in the following string:


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Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

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Yes. I have cleaned up some of the parsing and in addition to TX Frequency I now parse the current TX slice RF Power, Tune Power, and Mode.

There are global nodes to send TX Frequency to other flows such as the W2 flow.

?

Next thing I am working on is the display status for the 2x8 Antenna Genius.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Santiago Mejia via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 6:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] W2 wattmeter support

?

Good afternoon all! I¡¯ve been held back on node red due to work and a family trip. I don¡¯t have a W2 meter (yet), but the new Flex flow worth looking individually?

?



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hi8smx.online

HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube

?

?

On Sunday, July 19, 2020, 6:17 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

OK. I have finished the tweaks to the W2 wattmeter flow and the FlexRadio flow that is required to match it.

I have added some parsing of current band TX power slider, tune power slider, and current mode.

?

Here¡¯s a screenshot of my dash with everything on one screen. I will move some items off the main screen, like the W2 since I do not own one.

?

The Antenna Genius display is a work in progress. Just starting adding the buttons. I am going to have it for informational display only as I have the antennas selected automatically by band.

?

73

Dave

Wo2x

?

?

A screen shot of a computerDescription automatically generated

?

I will upload both flows

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bret Mills
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] W2 wattmeter support

?

This is GREAT info and thanks for the Info

73's

Bret

WX7Y

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:05 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret

?

That is an MQTT Broker Out node. ?

?

?The MQTT out node allows the flow to send the Flex TX status to a different Raspberry Pil

?

Not?applicable?to you unless you have a second Pi you want to receive the Flex TX Status.

?

Alan

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:00 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

I have a question on a Nodes, in the NEW "FLEXRADIO" Flow it uses the IP and Port number of "" and always says "connecting", If I put my FLEX Radio IP in here it still says? "connecting"?

QUESTION is What should this be connecting to ???

?

Thanks guys

?

?

image.png

?

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 1:45 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret

?

Your welcome.? Glad to help

?

I know Dave is close to releasing an update for the W2 that will further?improve its reliability and functions.

?

?

Alan

?

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:35 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

? Hi Dave, Just wanted to comment on things thus far and Thank you so very much for your help and debugging and Building the Flows!!!

Between you and Alan have built my whole automation for my remote station here.

The W2 Wattmeter Flow "Beta 8" is as far as?I can tell so far working great?on my HF station with the PGXL, the 6700, HF-Auto?and W2 Watt Meter, you made tons of headway?on the W2 this morning and thanks again.

I'll keep testing and let you know if I find anything

and if there is something you want to test further after knowing my station as you do please let me know.?

A few things I would still like to figure out and maybe ask you some questions about but that is another can of worms.

?

Thanks again

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:45 PM Bret Mills via <bret.wx7y=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

?

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)

"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution

image.png



Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret - This is what worked for me:

?

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

?

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

?

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

?

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

?

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

?

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

?

Reboot Pi

?

Power Cycle W2.

?

Done

?

Alan

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?

All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

?

Thanks guys

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

?

Alan

?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?

?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

?

Dave wo2x

?

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

?

Alan

?

?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?

Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??

looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??

Thanks a lot Alan?

Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

?

73's

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

?

Alan

WA9WUD

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

?

Phone number here is 4357499012?

Thanks a lot

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

?

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

?

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

?

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

?

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?

?

?

?

On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?

Dave

?

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

?

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

?

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

?

Mike va3mw

?

?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

?

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

?

Santiago

?

____________

73 de HI8SMX?

hi8smx.online

HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube

?

?

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

?

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

?

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

?

Dave wo2x

?

On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

?

73,

?

Santiago

HI8SMX?

KB8SMX?

?

____________

73 de HI8SMX?

hi8smx.online

HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube

?

?

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

?

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

?

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

?

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

?

What other controls?

?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?


--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


File Notifications #file-notice

[email protected] Notification
 

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: David De Coons wo2x

Description:
This is final version 1,0 of the Elecraft W2 watt meter flow


The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: David De Coons wo2x

Description:
New updated FlexRadio flow. You will need this to use with the W2 watt meter flow.


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Good afternoon all! I¡¯ve been held back on node red due to work and a family trip. I don¡¯t have a W2 meter (yet), but the new Flex flow worth looking individually?




____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Sunday, July 19, 2020, 6:17 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

OK. I have finished the tweaks to the W2 wattmeter flow and the FlexRadio flow that is required to match it.

I have added some parsing of current band TX power slider, tune power slider, and current mode.

?

Here¡¯s a screenshot of my dash with everything on one screen. I will move some items off the main screen, like the W2 since I do not own one.

?

The Antenna Genius display is a work in progress. Just starting adding the buttons. I am going to have it for informational display only as I have the antennas selected automatically by band.

?

73

Dave

Wo2x

?

?

A screen shot of a computerDescription automatically generated

?

I will upload both flows

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bret Mills
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] W2 wattmeter support

?

This is GREAT info and thanks for the Info

73's

Bret

WX7Y

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:05 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret

?

That is an MQTT Broker Out node. ?

?

?The MQTT out node allows the flow to send the Flex TX status to a different Raspberry Pil

?

Not?applicable?to you unless you have a second Pi you want to receive the Flex TX Status.

?

Alan

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:00 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

I have a question on a Nodes, in the NEW "FLEXRADIO" Flow it uses the IP and Port number of "" and always says "connecting", If I put my FLEX Radio IP in here it still says? "connecting"?

QUESTION is What should this be connecting to ???

?

Thanks guys

?

?

image.png

?

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 1:45 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret

?

Your welcome.? Glad to help

?

I know Dave is close to releasing an update for the W2 that will further?improve its reliability and functions.

?

?

Alan

?

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:35 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

? Hi Dave, Just wanted to comment on things thus far and Thank you so very much for your help and debugging and Building the Flows!!!

Between you and Alan have built my whole automation for my remote station here.

The W2 Wattmeter Flow "Beta 8" is as far as?I can tell so far working great?on my HF station with the PGXL, the 6700, HF-Auto?and W2 Watt Meter, you made tons of headway?on the W2 this morning and thanks again.

I'll keep testing and let you know if I find anything

and if there is something you want to test further after knowing my station as you do please let me know.?

A few things I would still like to figure out and maybe ask you some questions about but that is another can of worms.

?

Thanks again

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:45 PM Bret Mills via <bret.wx7y=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

?

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)

"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution

image.png



Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret - This is what worked for me:

?

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

?

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

?

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

?

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

?

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

?

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

?

Reboot Pi

?

Power Cycle W2.

?

Done

?

Alan

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?

All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

?

Thanks guys

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

?

Alan



On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?



On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

?

Dave wo2x

?

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?



On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

?

Alan

?



On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?

Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??

looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??

Thanks a lot Alan?

Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

?

73's

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

?

Alan

WA9WUD

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

?

Phone number here is 4357499012?

Thanks a lot

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

?

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

?

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

?

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

?

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?

?

?



On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?

Dave

?

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

?

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

?

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

?

Mike va3mw

?

?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

?

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

?

Santiago

?

____________

73 de HI8SMX?

hi8smx.online

HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube

?

?

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

?

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

?

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

?

Dave wo2x



On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

?

73,

?

Santiago

HI8SMX?

KB8SMX?

?

____________

73 de HI8SMX?

hi8smx.online

HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube

?

?

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

?

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

?

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

?

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

?

What other controls?

?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?


--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

OK. I have finished the tweaks to the W2 wattmeter flow and the FlexRadio flow that is required to match it.

I have added some parsing of current band TX power slider, tune power slider, and current mode.

?

Here¡¯s a screenshot of my dash with everything on one screen. I will move some items off the main screen, like the W2 since I do not own one.

?

The Antenna Genius display is a work in progress. Just starting adding the buttons. I am going to have it for informational display only as I have the antennas selected automatically by band.

?

73

Dave

Wo2x

?

?

A screen shot of a computer

Description automatically generated

?

I will upload both flows

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bret Mills
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 5:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] W2 wattmeter support

?

This is GREAT info and thanks for the Info

73's

Bret

WX7Y

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:05 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret

?

That is an MQTT Broker Out node. ?

?

?The MQTT out node allows the flow to send the Flex TX status to a different Raspberry Pil

?

Not?applicable?to you unless you have a second Pi you want to receive the Flex TX Status.

?

Alan

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:00 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

I have a question on a Nodes, in the NEW "FLEXRADIO" Flow it uses the IP and Port number of "" and always says "connecting", If I put my FLEX Radio IP in here it still says? "connecting"?

QUESTION is What should this be connecting to ???

?

Thanks guys

?

?

image.png

?

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 1:45 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret

?

Your welcome.? Glad to help

?

I know Dave is close to releasing an update for the W2 that will further?improve its reliability and functions.

?

?

Alan

?

?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:35 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

? Hi Dave, Just wanted to comment on things thus far and Thank you so very much for your help and debugging and Building the Flows!!!

Between you and Alan have built my whole automation for my remote station here.

The W2 Wattmeter Flow "Beta 8" is as far as?I can tell so far working great?on my HF station with the PGXL, the 6700, HF-Auto?and W2 Watt Meter, you made tons of headway?on the W2 this morning and thanks again.

I'll keep testing and let you know if I find anything

and if there is something you want to test further after knowing my station as you do please let me know.?

A few things I would still like to figure out and maybe ask you some questions about but that is another can of worms.

?

Thanks again

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:45 PM Bret Mills via <bret.wx7y=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

?

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)

"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution

image.png



Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret - This is what worked for me:

?

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

?

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

?

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

?

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

?

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

?

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

?

Reboot Pi

?

Power Cycle W2.

?

Done

?

Alan

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?

All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

?

Thanks guys

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

?

Alan



On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?



On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

?

Dave wo2x

?

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?



On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

?

Alan

?



On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?

Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??

looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??

Thanks a lot Alan?

Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

?

73's

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

?

Alan

WA9WUD

?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

?

Phone number here is 4357499012?

Thanks a lot

Bret

WX7Y

?

?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

?

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

?

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

?

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

?

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?

?

?



On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?

Dave

?

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

?

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

?

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

?

Mike va3mw

?

?

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

?

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

?

Santiago

?

____________

73 de HI8SMX?

hi8smx.online

HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube

?

?

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

?

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

?

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

?

Dave wo2x



On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

?

73,

?

Santiago

HI8SMX?

KB8SMX?

?

____________

73 de HI8SMX?

hi8smx.online

HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube

?

?

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

?

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

?

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

?

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

?

What other controls?

?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

?

73

Dave wo2x

?

?


--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

This is GREAT info and thanks for the Info
73's
Bret
WX7Y

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:05 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret

That is an MQTT Broker Out node. ?

?The MQTT out node allows the flow to send the Flex TX status to a different Raspberry Pil

Not?applicable?to you unless you have a second Pi you want to receive the Flex TX Status.

Alan

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:00 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
I have a question on a Nodes, in the NEW "FLEXRADIO" Flow it uses the IP and Port number of "" and always says "connecting", If I put my FLEX Radio IP in here it still says? "connecting"?
QUESTION is What should this be connecting to ???

Thanks guys


image.png


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 1:45 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret

Your welcome.? Glad to help

I know Dave is close to releasing an update for the W2 that will further?improve its reliability and functions.


Alan


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:35 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
? Hi Dave, Just wanted to comment on things thus far and Thank you so very much for your help and debugging and Building the Flows!!!
Between you and Alan have built my whole automation for my remote station here.
The W2 Wattmeter Flow "Beta 8" is as far as?I can tell so far working great?on my HF station with the PGXL, the 6700, HF-Auto?and W2 Watt Meter, you made tons of headway?on the W2 this morning and thanks again.
I'll keep testing and let you know if I find anything
and if there is something you want to test further after knowing my station as you do please let me know.?
A few things I would still like to figure out and maybe ask you some questions about but that is another can of worms.

Thanks again
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:45 PM Bret Mills via <bret.wx7y=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
image.png


Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Bret

That is an MQTT Broker Out node. ?

?The MQTT out node allows the flow to send the Flex TX status to a different Raspberry Pil

Not?applicable?to you unless you have a second Pi you want to receive the Flex TX Status.

Alan

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 5:00 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
I have a question on a Nodes, in the NEW "FLEXRADIO" Flow it uses the IP and Port number of "" and always says "connecting", If I put my FLEX Radio IP in here it still says? "connecting"?
QUESTION is What should this be connecting to ???

Thanks guys


image.png


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 1:45 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret

Your welcome.? Glad to help

I know Dave is close to releasing an update for the W2 that will further?improve its reliability and functions.


Alan


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:35 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
? Hi Dave, Just wanted to comment on things thus far and Thank you so very much for your help and debugging and Building the Flows!!!
Between you and Alan have built my whole automation for my remote station here.
The W2 Wattmeter Flow "Beta 8" is as far as?I can tell so far working great?on my HF station with the PGXL, the 6700, HF-Auto?and W2 Watt Meter, you made tons of headway?on the W2 this morning and thanks again.
I'll keep testing and let you know if I find anything
and if there is something you want to test further after knowing my station as you do please let me know.?
A few things I would still like to figure out and maybe ask you some questions about but that is another can of worms.

Thanks again
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:45 PM Bret Mills via <bret.wx7y=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
image.png


Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

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______________
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HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

I have a question on a Nodes, in the NEW "FLEXRADIO" Flow it uses the IP and Port number of "" and always says "connecting", If I put my FLEX Radio IP in here it still says? "connecting"?
QUESTION is What should this be connecting to ???

Thanks guys


image.png


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 1:45 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret

Your welcome.? Glad to help

I know Dave is close to releasing an update for the W2 that will further?improve its reliability and functions.


Alan


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:35 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
? Hi Dave, Just wanted to comment on things thus far and Thank you so very much for your help and debugging and Building the Flows!!!
Between you and Alan have built my whole automation for my remote station here.
The W2 Wattmeter Flow "Beta 8" is as far as?I can tell so far working great?on my HF station with the PGXL, the 6700, HF-Auto?and W2 Watt Meter, you made tons of headway?on the W2 this morning and thanks again.
I'll keep testing and let you know if I find anything
and if there is something you want to test further after knowing my station as you do please let me know.?
A few things I would still like to figure out and maybe ask you some questions about but that is another can of worms.

Thanks again
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:45 PM Bret Mills via <bret.wx7y=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
image.png


Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Bret

Your welcome.? Glad to help

I know Dave is close to releasing an update for the W2 that will further?improve its reliability and functions.


Alan


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 3:35 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
? Hi Dave, Just wanted to comment on things thus far and Thank you so very much for your help and debugging and Building the Flows!!!
Between you and Alan have built my whole automation for my remote station here.
The W2 Wattmeter Flow "Beta 8" is as far as?I can tell so far working great?on my HF station with the PGXL, the 6700, HF-Auto?and W2 Watt Meter, you made tons of headway?on the W2 this morning and thanks again.
I'll keep testing and let you know if I find anything
and if there is something you want to test further after knowing my station as you do please let me know.?
A few things I would still like to figure out and maybe ask you some questions about but that is another can of worms.

Thanks again
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:45 PM Bret Mills via <bret.wx7y=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
image.png


Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: members

 

Kevin

Can you run multiple flows on one Pi - Yes, there is no limit.....well I suppose there is, but it would be higher then?I could ever get to.

The breakout boards and relays come in many flavors.? If you are a novice and want to first focus on learning the?fundamentals, and turn your Flex on/off, I would suggest:



And use the GPIO pins for operating 5v relays with optoisolated inputs:



and these wires



Once you learn, or maybe?you are already at that?level, there are many more robust options, like TCP and web-based switches.? Comment if you are ready for a list of those.

Alan
WA9WUD


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 1:55 PM Kevin Paus <kevin.w4kjp@...> wrote:
All,?

What break out board or relay board do you all suggest I purchase?? I already have a couple Raspberry Pi 3s.? I have a Flex 6400 that I leave powered up all the time but I was thinking my first project should be a way to power it on/off remotely.? Can you run multiple flows on one raspberry pi or will I need multiple pi (s)???

Kevin?
w4kjp?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:44 AM Paul Menown <pako20@...> wrote:
Can't wait to get back home from holiday home to get experimenting with all this stuff. Thanks for creating the group.?
Paul gi4fzd


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

? Hi Dave, Just wanted to comment on things thus far and Thank you so very much for your help and debugging and Building the Flows!!!
Between you and Alan have built my whole automation for my remote station here.
The W2 Wattmeter Flow "Beta 8" is as far as?I can tell so far working great?on my HF station with the PGXL, the 6700, HF-Auto?and W2 Watt Meter, you made tons of headway?on the W2 this morning and thanks again.
I'll keep testing and let you know if I find anything
and if there is something you want to test further after knowing my station as you do please let me know.?
A few things I would still like to figure out and maybe ask you some questions about but that is another can of worms.

Thanks again
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:45 PM Bret Mills via <bret.wx7y=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
image.png


Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 10.00.01 PM.png

Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 9.49.38 PM.png

Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

Screen Shot 2020-07-18 at 8.54.06 PM.png

Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

?
Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

?
Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
HI8SMX?
KB8SMX?


____________
73 de HI8SMX?
hi8smx.online
HI8SMX on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube


On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx

--
______________
73 de Santiago
HI8SMX
web:?
YouTube: HI8SMX?
Twitter: @hi8smx
Instagram: hi8smx


Re: members

 

All,?

What break out board or relay board do you all suggest I purchase?? I already have a couple Raspberry Pi 3s.? I have a Flex 6400 that I leave powered up all the time but I was thinking my first project should be a way to power it on/off remotely.? Can you run multiple flows on one raspberry pi or will I need multiple pi (s)???

Kevin?
w4kjp?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 9:44 AM Paul Menown <pako20@...> wrote:
Can't wait to get back home from holiday home to get experimenting with all this stuff. Thanks for creating the group.?
Paul gi4fzd


Re: PC Board Offer

 

I would?like a board to experiment?with if you have any left so put my name on 1 of them if you would and let me know the cost to ship
WX7Y
Bret Mills


On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 7:21 AM randy nelson <rlnou812@...> wrote:
I've been using Node Red for several years.? It's been fantastic to allow me to do various automation functions around the house without knowing how to code.
I have some extra input/output PC boards I designed to interface to a raspberry pi.? The board has 4 opto isolated inputs and connects to the generic cheap 8 relay boards found all over the Internet.
These are bare boards and you will need to supply your own parts. I have a small number of 26 pin headers and ribbon cables left.
I only want to cover postage and a couple of bucks for the 26 pin headers and ribbon cables. The boards are no charge.
If your interested, I can supply a .png of the schematic.? The picture shown here is a populated board I will be keeping but gives you an idea of what the board is.
Randy WB0VHB


Re: W2 wattmeter support

 

Tracked the error was coming?from the Flex radio Flow not running ver 3 right now because of another issue?
I'll give you a call in a few minutes
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 10:12 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
If you click on the error it should highlight the node where the error is located.
Cannot reas subsrt of undefined sounds like the node is not receiving data.

Bret, i¡¯m hitting the bed. Call me tomorrow whenever u have time. I can go over my process for debugging. I will also merge Alan¡¯s changes with the W2 flow I have in the file section.?

73
Dave wo2x


On Jul 18, 2020, at 11:45 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

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Hi Alan and thanks for the above that is what I have been doing and I am connected it looks like, I get this error in Debug mode

7/18/2020, 9:38:12 PMfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'substr' of undefined"
On the control panel in Node-Red the buttons are green for the one that should be but see no meter Movement or Auto Change changes resolution
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Thanks a lotBretWX7Y

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 8:10 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret - This is what worked for me:

Step one - Use the Serial Request Node.? Remove Serial out node, wire inputs to Serial Request Node out. ? Same for "in".

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Step 2 - Select USB port; ?The status on the serial node should show "connected" or OK, when you select the correct port. ? Should be the same as I have in mine, if you have only one USB cable:

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Click as shown, to adjust settings. ? Also, on this setup page you can also enter the Serial Port name as Andreas has suggested.? I have not done this, yet, for mine, because I have only one USB connection so far and the USB0 port is working for me.? Should for you too.

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Reboot Pi

Power Cycle W2.

Done

Alan

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 9:42 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
That is the same Cable as I am using, and the latest Flow from Daves Group.io I have several COM ports listed not after playing around with the WN2 Watt Meter and making sure the FTDI driver worked with the FTDI that works in the FLEX radio's USB ports so I may have to figure out how to get rid of the ones I'm not using or figure out how to set the Node-Red COM port by the actual Cable name.?
All this?is really new to me so just learn as I go?

Thanks guys
Bret
WX7Y


On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:32 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
I no longer use the serial to TCP converter.? If I were I would use the TCP in and out nodes.?

I am now hard wired from the W2 to the Pi as described above Using Elecraft serial to USB FTDI cable.?

The Serial Request node seems to coordinate in/out more to the W2¡¯s liking.? I never was able to get the two separate serial in and out nodes to talk with the W2.

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?Works for me using serial to USB FTDI cable.?


On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:21 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?Actually I believe he will want to use serial on and out. I do not believe I have seen a serial request node. He is not using a serial to IP adapter.?

Baud rate should be 9600,8n,1

Dave wo2x


Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jul 18, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?You say the usb cable shows as connected. ? Good Linux found the USB port.?

Use the same USB port with ?the settings I sent you, and use the TCP Request node instead of the two TCP in and TCP out nodes.? Be sure to remove the unused TCP nodes.? Then reboot pi, reboot W2.?

Alan


On Jul 18, 2020, at 8:58 PM, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:

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Yep tried that I am now testing on the bench using the Windows App and all work A-OK, Just wondering do I have to set the COM port serial?number in Linux anywhere? also what baud rate does the W2 take??
looking at the Flow and seeing what COM Port is available it shows 11520 and 9600 the windows Device manager uses 9600 Baud??
Thanks a lot Alan?
Ill give a try here in a bit on the Node Red server again after dinner

73's
Bret
WX7Y



On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 6:50 PM Alan Blind <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
Bret- Re-boot the Pi, then if nothing, power cycle the W2 (unplug, plug back in).

Alan
WA9WUD

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 7:09 PM Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, Hay got the Elecraft W2 Wattmeter today and got it plugged in with the included USB serial cable BUT I am not getting anything coming?out of the W2 to the FLow wonder when you have a minute you could poke around here and see what I have wrong that catch's your eye. The USB serial cable shows connected in the flow and nothing popping?out looking at the Debug for that Flow?

Phone number here is 4357499012?
Thanks a lot
Bret
WX7Y


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:03 PM David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:
My display flow for the wattmeter is based on the decimal spacing returned from the F command, F00125D2; would be 1.25 watts. And if the third place in the information string is 1 then meter scaling is set for 0 to 2 watts. I was able to do some pretty cool stuff.

I just need guidance on what people want for control of the meter.

I use the metering in the KPA1500. I kept monitoring and control simple, to what I need for remote operation. But the nice thing with Node Red is any avalable command or info returned can be displayed. It is just how crazy you want to go.

For the people new to Node Red, install it and load some flows to look at the different nodes ?nodes to see how we manipulate the data. Looking at examples helps to learn.

As always, ask questions here. Pretty much any equipment with serial, USB, or IP can be added.?




On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Michael Walker <va3mw@...> wrote:

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Dave

Having used a W2 until last week (but for about 10 years previous) I found that I needed to hit 'scan' more than once.

Changing scales requires you to do math on the reported values.

BTW, for Scan, I think it requires a special firmware from Elecraft, but you would need to confirm they actually made the firmware public.

Mike va3mw


On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:19 PM Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:
Actually I don¡¯t have any at the moment.

Yes, I¡¯m getting my way around. Currently I¡¯m adapting some of our flows to my set up and combining them. And just started reading about Node Red and APC UPS.

Santiago


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On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:16 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi Santiago,

Hope you are progressing with Node Red.

What wattmeter do you use now? Does it have connectivity either via serial or USB?

Dave wo2x


On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:07 PM, Santiago Mejia via <hi8smx=[email protected]> wrote:

? Darn...I should add a W2 to the equipment wish list.

73,

Santiago
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On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:04 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have finished the display portion of the W2 wattmeter flow.

What control functionality would you like to see? Forward power meter in auto range or manually set? (I personally like auto range).

Sensor auto scan or manually selectable? Or a choice between the two?

What other controls?

Once I get some feedback I will be able to have a flow publicly available to test.

73
Dave wo2x



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Re: Node Red Lurker

 

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Hi Kyle,

Good to have you on board. I have my flows up on the file section of this site

Take a look around and see if any of the flows work for your hardware.

I am working on an updated Flex Radio and W2 watt meter flow (Alan provided good input and additions to the W2flow).

73
Dave wo2x


On Jul 19, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Kyle K <kylekrieg@...> wrote:

?Just putting out a post to prove I'm not a bot!??

I have a Flex 6700 remote with a Pi that I use to tunnel ports back to my local station control and I've known about Node Red for a while, but haven't installed it yet due to many factors.? The current setup in my station "just works".??

Now that I'm seeing this dedicated group take off, I might go ahead and try and do some node red programming since there is some dedicated help.

Thanks to WA9WUD for the node red json dump to github.? I'm sure that's going to be the first place I go after installing the base program.

Kyle
AA0Z


Node Red Lurker

 

Just putting out a post to prove I'm not a bot!??

I have a Flex 6700 remote with a Pi that I use to tunnel ports back to my local station control and I've known about Node Red for a while, but haven't installed it yet due to many factors.? The current setup in my station "just works".??

Now that I'm seeing this dedicated group take off, I might go ahead and try and do some node red programming since there is some dedicated help.

Thanks to WA9WUD for the node red json dump to github.? I'm sure that's going to be the first place I go after installing the base program.

Kyle
AA0Z