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Re: Advice for building a new Node Red RPi-3B+ in 2025
I will answer my own question.?? I have since learned that trying to run several Node-Red flows,
plus an MQTT Broker, Plus MS DotNet and FRStack APIs on an RPi3 with 1GB of ram will
be.....? PAINFUL.???? I have installed the 64bit OS on an RPi 4 with 4GB of RAM, and am now starting to install Node-Red, Mosquitto MQTT, DotNET and FRStack. ?
73,
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Neal
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Re: Flex Radio flows in 2025?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý? The Flex v16 flow I wrote is the latest. ? Make sure to follow the WiKi as there is a list of extra nodes that require install. ? ? 73 Dave wo2x ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Neal AB6G via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2025 2:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Flex Radio flows in 2025? ? OK.? Thanks Dave.?? I think I will upgrade to using the one Pi4 that I have. It has 4GB of ram, so it should be fine with the 64bit stuff installed. ? Question:? When I look at the flows in the FILES section of this group,? almost everything is as least 3 years old.?? Has there been any updates to FLEX flows since then? ? Cheers, ? Neal ? |
Re: Flex Radio flows in 2025?
OK.? Thanks Dave.?? I think I will upgrade to using the one Pi4 that I have. It has 4GB of ram, so it should be fine with the 64bit stuff installed. Question:? When I look at the flows in the FILES section of this group,? almost everything is as least 3 years old.?? Has there been any updates to FLEX flows since then? Cheers, Neal |
Re: Flex Radio flows in 2025?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe 1 GB RAM will probably be a little slow, not so much the Pi3. ? I¡¯d recommend a Pi3B with 4 GB RAM as minimum if you are going to do 3 or more flows. I am running two Pi 5 8GB here. One for my ¡°production¡± Pi and the other my development. I also run HamClock and dynamic DNS client on the production Pi. ? Latest flows are on the group.io site in the file section. There are many flows for various radios, amps, tuners, antenna switches, AC and DC relay switches. And other flows. ? There is also a WiKi for installing the 64 bit Pi OS along with Node Red then separate WiKi for 64 bit .Net and FRStack. For interfacing to the StreamDeck, I primarily use the streamdeck-ws plugin on Node Red and use websocket commands from the Stream Deck. I do use FRStack also for a few things using REST commands. Help for that can be found in the Windows version FRStack in Help/REST Commands ? 73 Dave wo2x
? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Neal AB6G via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2025 12:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [nodered-hamradio] Flex Radio flows in 2025? ? Hi: ? I have been away from node-red since 2020.? Back then, I was using the VITA49 and Flex Radio V6 flows that Dave shared, on a RPi 3B+. ?? I have that all working again as of yesterday. ? ? (I used to be N6YFM, now AB6G since Aug 2024) ? Now, I just googled and found a few threads where it looks like most people have dumped the above flows, and are now ? QUESTION:?? I found superficial hints that the RPi3 was no longer good enough for all this, since it only has 1GB of RAM. It looks like most people are now running this on a RPi4 with the 4GB RAM model being appropriate??? Is this information ? Also, to aid my learning in the transition, where can I find the most recent version of the Flex Radio 6600 flows that use ? Sincere Thanks, ? Neal |
Re: Modifying a Stream Deck Button
Hi Alan.? That's quite a catch.? I never would have thought of that.? Thanks for the nice little flow that can fix my images.? I've tried a few with moderate success but now it's just a matter of becoming more familiar with the SVG properties.? Thanks once again to you and all the others who have been patient and very helpful.? Ken, K2KXK |
Flex Radio flows in 2025?
Hi:
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I have been away from node-red since 2020.? Back then, I was using the VITA49 and Flex Radio V6 flows that Dave shared,
on a RPi 3B+. ?? I have that all working again as of yesterday. ? ? (I used to be N6YFM, now AB6G since Aug 2024)
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Now, I just googled and found a few threads where it looks like most people have dumped the above flows, and are now
using FRStack API and DotNET. ?? Is this a better way to go? ?
QUESTION:?? I found superficial hints that the RPi3 was no longer good enough for all this, since it only has 1GB of RAM.
It looks like most people are now running this on a RPi4 with the 4GB RAM model being appropriate??? Is this information
correct?? Should I move to an RPi4 with 4GB ram? ?
Also, to aid my learning in the transition, where can I find the most recent version of the Flex Radio 6600 flows that use
FRStack API and DotNet? ?
Sincere Thanks,
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Neal |
Advice for building a new Node Red RPi-3B+ in 2025
I have several idle RPi 3B+ units.? But they have only 1 GB of RAM.
My old 2020 RPi3 node-red unit ran just fine with 32bit OS and 32bit .net install.
If I build a new fresh install with Pi OS bookworm right now, I assume I should still
use the 32bit OS, since it is an RPi 3 B+ with only 1GB of ram. But on this Group's Wiki, the notes for installing .Net aspcore 8.0.13 (latest as of 2/13/25) and FRStack WebAPI 3.8.12.78 (latest as of 2/13/25)
only talk about the 64bit versions.
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Does this group know the download locations for the 32bit versions of .net and FRStack API,? or in 2025, do you feel that I should no longer
use the Raspberry Pi3, and instead buy a Pi4 with 4GB and install everything in 64bit? I wanted to try to use the Pi3, since most of the time, the CPU utilization never went above 40%.
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Looking forward to your mentoring and/or advice.
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Thanks,
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Neal
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Re: Modifying a Stream Deck Button
Ken You cannot have strings?within strings. ? SVG uses "SVG code" in its code, but node-red sees this as a sting...... Other than the opening and closing "" for the code, because the full code is a string, there can be no strings between them. ? Again, no stings?withi?strings. ? ?Node Red sees them as ""svg code"" To fix this, add a reverse \ in front of the SVG " to show it is a special character. ie. " \" svg code \" " It can be a pain finding all the " in a long SVG string, so I built a flow to do the conversion. ?the flow is attached. Paste your SVG code into the inject button as a string.? Often the debug is limited in length and is too small to show you the full?converted line, so I use a "write file" node to create a text file to your computer. ? In this node, be sure to adjust the path to the desired directory on your device running node-red. The change node does a simple find and replace action, find each " and replace with \". Alan. WA9WUD On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 1:34?PM Ken Kayser via <kxkayser=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Modifying a Stream Deck Button
Hi Alan.? I think I am getting the concepts.? My issue right now is finding a way to format the svg data.? I have tried several editors and converters but can't get a clean svg image or at least one where the NR function editor doesn't complain.? I have attached a flow with a few example nodes.? Ex. 1 is extracted from your Switch image and works fine.? It displays the switch graphic along with my tetx and I can even change the graphics color.? Ex. 2 is from a conversion.? It has 2 path attributes which the editor doesn't seem to like.? Even if I remove the 2nd one, it still has tons of syntax errors..? Ex. 3 is my attempt at a base64 version.? It's syntax is OK but when inserted into the flow, it doesn't display any image.? Hopefully, you can easily spot the problems and get me on the right road.? I hate to have come this far and have simple syntax trip me up.? Thanks as always for your time and expertise. |
Re: Question: Does RPi OS upgrade break node-red flows?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDefinitely do a backup by exporting all flows on a regular basis. SD cards can fail without notice. And while we are on the subject¡If you rather do a clean install instead of upgrading an old OS version, the WiKi has been updated for the 64 bit Pi OS install. Use a new SD card. Raspberry Pi 3 and 4 units can use a USB to NVME portable housing. ?The NVME can handle a higher read/write lifetime although I will state I personally never had an SD failure using the generic Micro Center branded cards.? ?I upgraded to an Pi 5 and boot from an NVME drive, which can handle higher read/write lifetime and will run faster. Raspberry Pi 3 and 4 can use a NVME to USB case while the new Pi 5 supports PCIe 3.0. The case I use has a heatsinked mount for the NVME drive and ribbon cable to connect to the PCIe connector on the Pi5. It was recommended by another member on this group.? |
On Mar 11, 2025, at 9:56?PM, Neal AB6G via groups.io <nealix@...> wrote:
?Thanks for the tips!73,NealOn Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 6:44?PM Kyle AA0Z via <kylekrieg=[email protected]> wrote:Hey Neal,?You should be good to complete a full upgrade on your Pi.???Backup your flow to another machine before you start your upgrade.? I would also re-run the Node Red installer to make sure you are fully up to date on Node Red.? Then upgrade all your nodes to the latest by the pallet manager.?Good luck in your upgrades!?KyleAA0Z??