On Feb 4, 2021, at 9:50 AM, Mike Kovacich <ve3cko@...> wrote:

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opps ignore text after the screenshot, that was before I did further testing. was suppose to delete that portion of the email.

73, Mike Kovacich - VE3CKO -

On 2021-02-04 9:47 a.m., Mike VE3CKO wrote:

I was testing on 160m where I have 2 antennas available, upon switching to 20m where I have 5 available, and then clicking all the buttons I determined that the buttons do work, they do select antenna for Port A and B but there is no indication or feedback to the dashboard, just the green boxes as in the screenshot below. I opened up the debug window:

2021-02-04, 9:32:09 a.m.node: GetClientmsg : string[15]
"Invalid payload"
2021-02-04, 9:32:09 a.m.node: Create AntennaGenius Commandfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined"
2021-02-04, 9:32:09 a.m.node: Create AntennaGenius Commandfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined"
2021-02-04, 9:32:10 a.m.node: Create AntennaGenius Commandfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined"

So investigating where this is happening in the flow.

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I should have mentioned I've had an AG since they first came out, I know how to use it and wrote a tutorial

I've read the comment node Dave and it says "This flow will allow integration between the Flex LAN control of the 2x8 switch" so that tells me to keep the AGmode as LAN control - FlexRadio, right? ", that is the DIP setting I've had for years. Well, I played with the BCD and wrote a tutorial on it bthen it says " Also set the dip switches as per the manual". I've had an AG since they first came out and used BCD control and LAN control where I currently have it. Are implying I need to set this to a different mode such as GSD?

it's unclear what to set the DIP switche

73, Mike Kovacich - VE3CKO -

On 2021-02-03 11:36 p.m., David De Coons wo2x wrote:

Use the AG2x8 with N1MM integration in my files section. You can ignore the N1MM part.

Read the comment node. You must configure the 2x8 dip switch and also configure it with the Windows app first.

/g/nodered-hamradio/files/wo2x%20flows/AG2x8_with_N1MM_integration.json

73

Dave wo2x

On Feb 3, 2021, at 11:07 PM, Mike Kovacich <ve3cko@...> wrote:

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Been Node-Reder for a couple days now. Been monitoring the group since early January and decided to get the Pi 4 on the weekend. Been playing with flows last couple days thanks to Mick W8BE. This is not only cool, but practical. I'm now moving to integrate Antenna Genius, I see there was an AntennaGenius2x8v2.json but the file seems no longer there. Is it available?? I see you have a newer one with N1MM incorporated but that doesn't seem to be working for me. I have one AG. The TCP request node was changed to the IP of the AG and it says it is connected but it's not showing any data and buttons don't work see screen shot below. I was going to start tearing down the flow for just one AG but thought I'd try AntennaGenius2x8v2.json first.

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73, Mike Kovacich - VE3CKO -

I was testing on 160m where I have 2 antennas available, upon switching to 20m where I have 5 available, and then clicking all the buttons I determined that the buttons do work, they do select antenna for Port A and B but there is no indication or feedback to the dashboard, just the green boxes as in the screenshot below. I opened up the debug window:

2021-02-04, 9:32:09 a.m.node: GetClientmsg : string[15]
"Invalid payload"
2021-02-04, 9:32:09 a.m.node: Create AntennaGenius Commandfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined"
2021-02-04, 9:32:09 a.m.node: Create AntennaGenius Commandfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined"
2021-02-04, 9:32:10 a.m.node: Create AntennaGenius Commandfunction : (error)
"TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined"

So investigating where this is happening in the flow.

I should have mentioned I've had an AG since they first came out, I know how to use it and wrote a tutorial

I've read the comment node Dave and it says "This flow will allow integration between the Flex LAN control of the 2x8 switch" so that tells me to keep the AGmode as LAN control - FlexRadio, right? ", that is the DIP setting I've had for years. Well, I played with the BCD and wrote a tutorial on it bthen it says " Also set the dip switches as per the manual". I've had an AG since they first came out and used BCD control and LAN control where I currently have it. Are implying I need to set this to a different mode such as GSD?

it's unclear what to set the DIP switche

73, Mike Kovacich - VE3CKO -

On 2021-02-03 11:36 p.m., David De Coons wo2x wrote:

Use the AG2x8 with N1MM integration in my files section. You can ignore the N1MM part.

Read the comment node. You must configure the 2x8 dip switch and also configure it with the Windows app first.

/g/nodered-hamradio/files/wo2x%20flows/AG2x8_with_N1MM_integration.json

73

Dave wo2x

On Feb 3, 2021, at 11:07 PM, Mike Kovacich <ve3cko@...> wrote:

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Been Node-Reder for a couple days now. Been monitoring the group since early January and decided to get the Pi 4 on the weekend. Been playing with flows last couple days thanks to Mick W8BE. This is not only cool, but practical. I'm now moving to integrate Antenna Genius, I see there was an AntennaGenius2x8v2.json but the file seems no longer there. Is it available?? I see you have a newer one with N1MM incorporated but that doesn't seem to be working for me. I have one AG. The TCP request node was changed to the IP of the AG and it says it is connected but it's not showing any data and buttons don't work see screen shot below. I was going to start tearing down the flow for just one AG but thought I'd try AntennaGenius2x8v2.json first.

<dlccmlcdnjkcajhb.png>

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73, Mike Kovacich - VE3CKO -

On Feb 3, 2021, at 11:07 PM, Mike Kovacich <ve3cko@...> wrote:

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Been Node-Reder for a couple days now. Been monitoring the group since early January and decided to get the Pi 4 on the weekend. Been playing with flows last couple days thanks to Mick W8BE. This is not only cool, but practical. I'm now moving to integrate Antenna Genius, I see there was an AntennaGenius2x8v2.json but the file seems no longer there. Is it available?? I see you have a newer one with N1MM incorporated but that doesn't seem to be working for me. I have one AG. The TCP request node was changed to the IP of the AG and it says it is connected but it's not showing any data and buttons don't work see screen shot below. I was going to start tearing down the flow for just one AG but thought I'd try AntennaGenius2x8v2.json first.

<dlccmlcdnjkcajhb.png>

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73, Mike Kovacich - VE3CKO -

On Feb 3, 2021, at 10:05 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?That is the DLI WebSwitch flow.

What do you need to know?

Dave

On Feb 3, 2021, at 10:45 PM, Andre VanWyk via groups.io <nj0f@...> wrote:

?Dave,
How did you create your power switch Icons / buttons on your shack control?
73
NJ0F

On Feb 3, 2021, at 10:45 PM, Andre VanWyk via groups.io <nj0f@...> wrote:

?Dave,
How did you create your power switch Icons / buttons on your shack control?
73
NJ0F

Hi Alan,

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I apologize but I did terrible on multi-tasking today when I responded. I never answered your questions:

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An important consideration is what platform do you prefer to run Node-Red??

Right now I am running a dedicated Dell Optiplex 780 Windows 7 PC at both locations as a server (Green Heron Everywhere server). All RT21's and the Green Heron Everywhere base unit is connected to it.

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This is important in setting up the COM ports with the RT21s.? Since you have multiple rotors, might I suggest you run Node-Red on a Raspberry Pi and use COM to IP converters for each RT21.

I am not very familiar with the Raspberry Pi's and wondering how I would bring the Green Heron Server to talk to it? If I deploy the Raspberry Pi at each location I will still need the PC Server as it runs lightning detection systems at one of the locations to lower towers when thunderstorms approach.

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I use the MOXA N5200.? I have direct experience with this configuration and found it is very stable.

I have used MOXA serial to Ethernet before for work so familiar with that part at least.

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Another approach is to command PST Rotor using Node-Red.? Many prefer this method.? However, this does not solve your need to use multiple inputs to command your multiple RT21s.

This is one of my biggest problems since PST Rotor can only accommodate one rotor

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Which logging program do you use.? We already have Node-Red connectors for N1MM.

I use N1MM for contests but we do use Log4OM2 for general logging, award tracking and LOTW etc.

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I think most of the devices you are using GH Anywhere, can be done with Node-Red and consolidated on a single Dashboard, including adding interlocks and other functions?between various devices.

That is good news. Coax switches is a mix of HamPlus and 4O3A AntennaGenius (not using the Ethernet as they are connected to GHE remotes)

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I can help you get started with the rotor control if you like.? Then expand from there.

That would be much appreciated.

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73

Andre

NJ0F

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:05 AM Andre VanWyk via <nj0f=[email protected]> wrote:

I stumbled across a YouTube video by VA3MW and what I saw got my interest. I am building two fairly large stations and both have the same problems. Lots of different applications with different GUI's making it rather complicated. After watching the video it seems that Node Red will be able to bring all this together in one GUI. I really like what I see and before I dig too deep into this, I thought I would ask a few questions here:

1. Both stations uses Green Heron's GH Everywhere wireless solution which controls a bunch of antenna switches, stack matches and other controllers remotely. It is a wonderful product but lots of different windows, buttons etc that needs to be centered on screens.? Will I be able to tie this into Node Red? If so, is anybody on this group using GH Everywhere??
2. Both stations has three Green Heron RT21's and will be interfaced to a Logbook via PST Rotor. For PST to be able to run multiple rotors, one has to open multiple instances of the program to achieve this as per the author of the software. I wonder if someone out there has more that one RT21 interface through Node Red?
3. Multiple radio interfacing: Both stations uses Icom and Flex so I was wondering how this would work.

As you can see, I am a rookie to NodeRed and willing to learn but I do not want to pursue this path if I cannot interface to the GH Everywhere stuff so any pointers will be greatly appreciated.

Best 73
Andre
NJ0F

On Feb 3, 2021, at 6:55 PM, Ron Wright - KA5LUG <ronwright.us@...> wrote:

?I see that this group has a Flex flavor but I am curious if anyone has done any similar work with Icom radios, specifically the 7300? ?It's on my to do list, just hasn't made it to the top yet. ?:)

--Ron, KA5LUG

I stumbled across a YouTube video by VA3MW and what I saw got my interest. I am building two fairly large stations and both have the same problems. Lots of different applications with different GUI's making it rather complicated. After watching the video it seems that Node Red will be able to bring all this together in one GUI. I really like what I see and before I dig too deep into this, I thought I would ask a few questions here:

1. Both stations uses Green Heron's GH Everywhere wireless solution which controls a bunch of antenna switches, stack matches and other controllers remotely. It is a wonderful product but lots of different windows, buttons etc that needs to be centered on screens.? Will I be able to tie this into Node Red? If so, is anybody on this group using GH Everywhere??
2. Both stations has three Green Heron RT21's and will be interfaced to a Logbook via PST Rotor. For PST to be able to run multiple rotors, one has to open multiple instances of the program to achieve this as per the author of the software. I wonder if someone out there has more that one RT21 interface through Node Red?
3. Multiple radio interfacing: Both stations uses Icom and Flex so I was wondering how this would work.

As you can see, I am a rookie to NodeRed and willing to learn but I do not want to pursue this path if I cannot interface to the GH Everywhere stuff so any pointers will be greatly appreciated.

Best 73
Andre
NJ0F

On Feb 3, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Andre VanWyk via groups.io <nj0f@...> wrote:

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Good afternoon Alan,

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Thank you for your response and I am delighted to hear that GH Everywhere can be included. I am going to email you diagrams of the two stations so you can have a better understanding of how it is laid out. Let me know if I can send it directly to you to avoid unnecessary traffic on the reflector.

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Best 73

Andre

NJ0F

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From: Alan Blind, WA9WUD

Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 10:31 AM

To: mailto:[email protected]

Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] General Questions about Node Red

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Andre

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Welcome to the forum.

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I can comment on Green Heron RT21 controllers.

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Yes, we have already built flows to interface directly with the RT21.? In my case, I built a Node-Red flow to get the AZ and EL data from SatPC32 and send that to the RT21.? Similarly, most logbook programs have a UDP or API interface to get the rotor info into Node-Red.? Then it's a simple change to my flow to command the RT21 with the same data.

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An important consideration is what platform do you prefer to run Node-Red?? This is important in setting up the COM ports with the RT21s.? Since you have multiple rotors, might I suggest you run Node-Red on a Raspberry Pi and use COM to IP converters for each RT21.? I use the MOXA N5200.? I have direct experience with this configuration and found it is very stable.

?

Another approach is to command PST Rotor using Node-Red.? Many prefer this method.? However, this does not solve your need to use multiple inputs to command your multiple RT21s.

?

Which logging program do you use.? We already have Node-Red connectors for N1MM.

?

I think most of the devices you are using GH Anywhere, can be done with Node-Red and consolidated on a single Dashboard, including adding interlocks and other functions between various devices.

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I can help you get started with the rotor control if you like.? Then expand from there.

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Alan. WA9WUD

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:05 AM Andre VanWyk via <nj0f=[email protected]> wrote:

I stumbled across a YouTube video by VA3MW and what I saw got my interest. I am building two fairly large stations and both have the same problems. Lots of different applications with different GUI's making it rather complicated. After watching the video it seems that Node Red will be able to bring all this together in one GUI. I really like what I see and before I dig too deep into this, I thought I would ask a few questions here:

1. Both stations uses Green Heron's GH Everywhere wireless solution which controls a bunch of antenna switches, stack matches and other controllers remotely. It is a wonderful product but lots of different windows, buttons etc that needs to be centered on screens.? Will I be able to tie this into Node Red? If so, is anybody on this group using GH Everywhere??
2. Both stations has three Green Heron RT21's and will be interfaced to a Logbook via PST Rotor. For PST to be able to run multiple rotors, one has to open multiple instances of the program to achieve this as per the author of the software. I wonder if someone out there has more that one RT21 interface through Node Red?
3. Multiple radio interfacing: Both stations uses Icom and Flex so I was wondering how this would work.

As you can see, I am a rookie to NodeRed and willing to learn but I do not want to pursue this path if I cannot interface to the GH Everywhere stuff so any pointers will be greatly appreciated.

Best 73
Andre
NJ0F