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nanoVNA Tweezer L/C Measurement Accuracy Examples


 

Greetings All,

As L/C component value measurement appears to be a present topic of interest here I decided throw my 2 cents in by posting a couple of tables that show the measurements results from tests I made with my nanoVNA tweezers. The tables illustrate the level of accuracy I obtained using tweezers with my nanoVNA running under "nanoVNA Saver" PC app control. As mentioned in an earlier post my nanoVNA tweezers were described in the Nov/Dec/2021 issue of QEX magazine. The attached tables along with some descriptive text can be download from the ARRL's QEX article support files site via the following link:



The measurements were made over a frequency range of 50KHz to 150MHz (which is the practical upper limit for use of this method) for ranges of 1pF to 470pF, +/-1% (+/- 0.1pf and 0.25pF for the 1pF and 4.7pF values respectively) tolerance 0805 size SMD capacitors and 10nH to 4.7uH, +/-2%, 0805 inductors. They were installed in isolation on a low stray capacitance designed PC board. The reactance range for the capacitors tested was roughly 7 Ohms for 470pF at 50MHz to 1 megOhm for 1pF at 15MHz. The reactance range for the inductors tested was roughly 1 Ohm for 10nH@15MHz to 500 Ohms for 4.7uH@15MHz.

The measured capacitor values obtained were all within the manufacture specified tolerances. The lower value inductors also measured within the manufactures +/-2% tolerance specification. However at the lower frequency range the larger value 1 and 4.7uH inductors were found to be about 3% from specified values at some frequencies. (As one would expect better measurement accuracy at lower frequencies I wonder if these larger inductors happen to be in fact slightly out of tolerance???)

I find the tweezers to be a useful addition to my instrumentation inventory. For a case-in-point whilst experimenting with a class E, 14MHz 5W output power amplifier I needed to wind a pair of toroid inductors for the output network. The amplifier efficiency pivots on a proper output network. The optimum initial inductor values were calculated using a very useful class E amplifier design spreadsheet by WA0ITP that is based on specs from NM0S. The toroid inductors needed required less than 10 turns which means a single turn influenced the achievable inductance value by about 20%. After getting the L values as close as I could I entered the tweezer measured L values into the spreadsheet and re-calculated the optimum capacitor values. Out of the gate without any tuning I found the output power was just over 5 Watts with an efficiency of about 80%.

There is no doubt that a proper test jig used with an expensive industrial quality VNA would provide a more stable and accurate measurement method for L/C components across a relatively wide frequency spectrum. However I also believe a set of tweezers can be a useful and easy to use nanoVNA accessory for those experimenters wishing to make L/C component measurements at frequencies below 150MHz with quite good accuracy.

--
Tom, VA7TA
Attachments:
TweezerResultsCapacitors.jpg (54170)
TweezerResultsInductors.jpg (68925)


 

Very interesting. Thank you for sharing :-)

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VE6WGM


 

Great project and information! Many thanks, Tom!

Dave, KE9ED

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 5:31 PM Tom VA7TA <tma.7ta@...> wrote:

Greetings All,

As L/C component value measurement appears to be a present topic of
interest here I decided throw my 2 cents in by posting a couple of tables
that show the measurements results from tests I made with my nanoVNA
tweezers. The tables illustrate the level of accuracy I obtained using
tweezers with my nanoVNA running under "nanoVNA Saver" PC app control. As
mentioned in an earlier post my nanoVNA tweezers were described in the
Nov/Dec/2021 issue of QEX magazine. The attached tables along with some
descriptive text can be download from the ARRL's QEX article support files
site via the following link:




The measurements were made over a frequency range of 50KHz to 150MHz
(which is the practical upper limit for use of this method) for ranges of
1pF to 470pF, +/-1% (+/- 0.1pf and 0.25pF for the 1pF and 4.7pF values
respectively) tolerance 0805 size SMD capacitors and 10nH to 4.7uH, +/-2%,
0805 inductors. They were installed in isolation on a low stray capacitance
designed PC board. The reactance range for the capacitors tested was
roughly 7 Ohms for 470pF at 50MHz to 1 megOhm for 1pF at 15MHz. The
reactance range for the inductors tested was roughly 1 Ohm for 10nH@15MHz
to 500 Ohms for 4.7uH@15MHz.

The measured capacitor values obtained were all within the manufacture
specified tolerances. The lower value inductors also measured within the
manufactures +/-2% tolerance specification. However at the lower frequency
range the larger value 1 and 4.7uH inductors were found to be about 3% from
specified values at some frequencies. (As one would expect better
measurement accuracy at lower frequencies I wonder if these larger
inductors happen to be in fact slightly out of tolerance???)

I find the tweezers to be a useful addition to my instrumentation
inventory. For a case-in-point whilst experimenting with a class E, 14MHz
5W output power amplifier I needed to wind a pair of toroid inductors for
the output network. The amplifier efficiency pivots on a proper output
network. The optimum initial inductor values were calculated using a very
useful class E amplifier design spreadsheet by WA0ITP that is based on
specs from NM0S. The toroid inductors needed required less than 10 turns
which means a single turn influenced the achievable inductance value by
about 20%. After getting the L values as close as I could I entered the
tweezer measured L values into the spreadsheet and re-calculated the
optimum capacitor values. Out of the gate without any tuning I found the
output power was just over 5 Watts with an efficiency of about 80%.

There is no doubt that a proper test jig used with an expensive industrial
quality VNA would provide a more stable and accurate measurement method for
L/C components across a relatively wide frequency spectrum. However I also
believe a set of tweezers can be a useful and easy to use nanoVNA accessory
for those experimenters wishing to make L/C component measurements at
frequencies below 150MHz with quite good accuracy.

--
Tom, VA7TA
Attachments:
TweezerResultsCapacitors.jpg (54170)
TweezerResultsInductors.jpg (68925)






 

Tom,

Thank you for taking the time to make your post.

In particular I noted the following:

- The calculated inductance of your 4.7 uH inductor varied from 4.56 to 4.82 uH _(+2.5 to -3%) over a wide reactance range of +j15 to +j443
- The calculated inductance of your 100 nH inductor varied from 98.04 to 100.74 uH _(+.7 to -.2%) also over a wide reactance range of +j2 to +j94
- The calculated capacitance of your 4.70 pF capacitor varied from 4.51 to to 4.62 pF _(-4%) over an extremely wide reactance range of -j1.5 to -j11,788

Very nice test results. It shows how a good test jig can accurately measure inductors and capacitors. You have also shown that while +j50 and -j50 may be the most accurate measurement points it is possible to still get excellent results with reactances much higher and lower than this with a VNA.

Roger


 

Many thanks for your analysis and comments Roger!

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Best Regards,
Tom, VA7TA