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Re: Cable Fault Detection

 

Joe.. What I'm trying to do is locate a short or open in a multi-channel audio snake. I really can't afford the high priced spread...


Re: Cable Fault Detection

 

I do fault locating with the Anritsu SiteMaster and the CellMaster. I prefer to use a short when testing because it seals off the end of the cable and avoids/reduces interference. This can help when testing on a heavily RF populated site.

Joe

On 6/21/2023 8:13 PM, Jim Lux wrote:
It should work identically - short and opens have 180 degree difference in the phase of the reflection, and that shows up in the synthetic TDR from the frequency sweep.


Re: Cable Fault Detection

 

Roger...I was in Logmag mode. I'll try Real tomorrow

Jim...In Logmag mode the short and open appear identical as far as I can tell


Re: Cable Fault Detection

 

On 6/21/23 2:22 PM, Geoff Peters - AB6BT wrote:
I realize this is similar to a recent topic but a bit different.
As the "TDR" function in the nanovan is not actually a time-domain process, is there a wat to differentiate between a short or open fault in a cable?
I have previously built a generator which can produce a very short pulse or a step with fast risetime. I have used it in conjunction with a scope as a TDR. It works reasonable well and you can clearly see an open or short in a cable.
Is there a way to replicate tis with a nanovna?


It should work identically - short and opens have 180 degree difference in the phase of the reflection, and that shows up in the synthetic TDR from the frequency sweep.


Re: #beginners1 #beginners1

 

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 02:45 PM, Robert Rose wrote:


This is a "where is Waldo" on the menu spider-web question. How do start a
rescan after I change parameters? Is there an FAQ that beginners should read?
A "NanoVNA for Dummies" book that you can recommend?
The Files section of this group contains an "Absolute Beginners Guide to the NanoVNA"

Roger


Re: Cable Fault Detection

 

If you turn on Transform and select Low Pass Impulse you are in "TDR mode". You need to set trace to "Real" and then you will see the difference between a short and an open.

Roger


Re: Additional information on Nano VNA

 

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 02:52 PM, Robert Rose wrote:


On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 07:52 PM, Frank S wrote:


Is there a way to tell what rev the firmware is?
HOME MENU->CONFIG->VERSION
Why necropost? Lots of current discussions in this group.

Roger


Re: #measurement - Torroid #measurement

 

I should have said that type 43 reads like an open circuit .

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 1:44?PM Gene Ruff <ruff.gene@...> wrote:

a useful hint when identifying torrides type 31 has resistance across the
surface . type 43 has none. Different materials.

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 1:23?PM W0LEV <davearea51a@...> wrote:

43 or 31 material are appropriate for HF applications. 43 is better for
20-meters upward and 31 material is best for 160 through 40 meters. If
you
are sure you have 43 material, there really is no reason to test the
toroids.

Dave - W0LEV

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:48?PM Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@...> wrote:

Dears,

FT240-43 Torroid, Can I use my NanoVNA to meassure my several torroids
to
be sure that I have the correct ones for HF UNUN?

any info is welcome

73,
Kurt





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*Dave - W?LEV*


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Dave - W?LEV





--
*Gene Ruff*
--
*Gene Ruff*


Re: Translated instructions

Robert Rose
 

All the units are based on the same hardware. This from "A Guide to the NanoVNA":
The current design of the NanoVNA and the name was created several years ago by a Japanese ham under the pseudonym ¡°edy555¡±. His first design ideas with a different DDS (frequency generator) seem to date back to 2013, but the current design with a significantly reduced parts count and based on the Si5351A was published by him in 2016. Edy555 himself references a German kit, the VNWA3 which was based on the concept of using a cheap computer soundcard, published by Tom Baier, DG8SAQ in the Mar/Apr 2007 issue of QEX ("A Low Budget Vector Network Analyzer for AF to UHF"). In the summer of 2016, edy555 announced to produce the NanoVNA, which was apparently done afterwards, but the kits were predominantly sold in Japan. Edy555 was also involved in the original firmware and continues to support the firmware (see chapter Two). He decided to open-source hardware and firmware to avoid bad clones, which undoubtedly was key to future development and the current popularity of the NanoVNA. It was not until a Chinese ham, Gen Hu (pseudonym ''hugen'') adapted the design slightly by changing the power supply and started to mass market the NanoVNA, that the device created international interest. In agreement with Edy555, hugen sells his product under the name NanoVNA-H. Hugen also runs his version of the firmware.

Schw?rzler, Christoph; Schw?rzler, Maximilian. A guide to the NanoVNA (pp. 9-10). Kindle Edition.

Bob
KN6UXD


Re: Translated instructions

Robert Rose
 

Google search: NanoVNA menu images

Bob
KN6UXD


Re: Additional information on Nano VNA

Robert Rose
 

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 07:52 PM, Frank S wrote:


Is there a way to tell what rev the firmware is?
HOME MENU->CONFIG->VERSION

Bob
KN6UXD


#beginners1 #beginners1

Robert Rose
 

This is a "where is Waldo" on the menu spider-web question. How do start a rescan after I change parameters? Is there an FAQ that beginners should read? A "NanoVNA for Dummies" book that you can recommend?

Thank you,
Bob
KN6UXD


Cable Fault Detection

 

I realize this is similar to a recent topic but a bit different.
As the "TDR" function in the nanovan is not actually a time-domain process, is there a wat to differentiate between a short or open fault in a cable?
I have previously built a generator which can produce a very short pulse or a step with fast risetime. I have used it in conjunction with a scope as a TDR. It works reasonable well and you can clearly see an open or short in a cable.
Is there a way to replicate tis with a nanovna?


Re: #measurement - Torroid #measurement

 

a useful hint when identifying torrides type 31 has resistance across the
surface . type 43 has none. Different materials.

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 1:23?PM W0LEV <davearea51a@...> wrote:

43 or 31 material are appropriate for HF applications. 43 is better for
20-meters upward and 31 material is best for 160 through 40 meters. If you
are sure you have 43 material, there really is no reason to test the
toroids.

Dave - W0LEV

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:48?PM Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@...> wrote:

Dears,

FT240-43 Torroid, Can I use my NanoVNA to meassure my several torroids to
be sure that I have the correct ones for HF UNUN?

any info is welcome

73,
Kurt





--

*Dave - W?LEV*


--
Dave - W?LEV





--
*Gene Ruff*


Re: #measurement - Torroid #measurement

 

43 or 31 material are appropriate for HF applications. 43 is better for
20-meters upward and 31 material is best for 160 through 40 meters. If you
are sure you have 43 material, there really is no reason to test the
toroids.

Dave - W0LEV

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 12:48?PM Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@...> wrote:

Dears,

FT240-43 Torroid, Can I use my NanoVNA to meassure my several torroids to
be sure that I have the correct ones for HF UNUN?

any info is welcome

73,
Kurt





--

*Dave - W?LEV*
--
Dave - W?LEV


#measurement - Torroid #measurement

 

Dears,

FT240-43 Torroid, Can I use my NanoVNA to meassure my several torroids to be sure that I have the correct ones for HF UNUN?

any info is welcome

73,
Kurt


Re: Wish list of future features for nanovna

 

On 21/06/2023 19:05, Fran?ois wrote:
** Ok but the files would be in a .zip it would happen all at once while keeping the structure
-- F1AMM Fran?ois
That is exactly what I do with my own software, but I then have to ask users not to overwrite and files they have personalise. You can't win!

73,
David GM8ARV
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SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: Wish list of future features for nanovna

 

Strange, yes, but personally I prefer it that way, so that you know exactly
what is being added to your computer rather than a massive install.exe with no
idea what it contains!
** Ok but the files would be in a .zip it would happen all at once while keeping the structure
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F1AMM
Fran?ois

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De la part de David J Taylor
Envoy¨¦ : mercredi 21 juin 2023 17:23


Re: Wish list of future features for nanovna

 

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 09:27 AM, Chris K2STP wrote:


Now there is a GREAT suggestion for the Nanovna, add a firmware update option
to the PC Saver program!! This way we have an ¡°all in one¡± application to
use and manage the nano.
Use NanoVNA-App


Re: Wish list of future features for nanovna

 

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 06:38 AM, David J Taylor wrote:

On 20/06/2023 06:07, Fran?ois wrote:

The program can also update the firmware.
Now there is a GREAT suggestion for the Nanovna, add a firmware update option to the PC Saver program!! This way we have an ¡°all in one¡± application to use and manage the nano.


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Regards,
Chris K2STP