Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
Oristo,
I think you misunderstood my intention in posting that link - it's merely a
good guide which could serve as an inspiration. It's not my suggested guide
for non-japanese speakers at least - I think the learning curve is a little
steep if you have to learn a new language first ;-)
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Rune / 5Q5R
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 23:45, Oristo <ormpoa@...> wrote: If you want to link to NanoVNA-Saver, a good address Thanks, updated main Wiki page link
JH4VAJ has written both a guide to the basic application,
as well as to the latest updates OK, added that as Rune's suggested guide
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
Mel, I did not mean for it to replace your proposed guide - I think it's a great idea to make something like the steps you proposed. My link to particularly the Japanese guide was merely for inspiration, and the download link was because it's the best link to put into a guide that might be long-lived :-) -- Rune / 5Q5R On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 23:43, Mel Farrer, K6KBE <farrermesa@...> wrote: Very good Rune,
But, it does not address the guy who just opens the box.......
Mel, K6KBE
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:26 PM Rune Broberg <mihtjel@...> wrote:
Hi Oristo and Mel,
Thank you for your efforts in making a new user guide! I think it would be
most welcome.
I have no particular desire for a popularity contest. The latest version,
released Wednesday, has around 1100 downloads of the Windows version at
this point. Plenty to make me happy :-)
There are some decent guides out there that people have kindly written for
NanoVNA-Saver in various versions, if you want some inspiration. JH4VAJ has
written both a guide to the basic application, as well as to the latest
updates: is the "basic" guide.
If you want to link to NanoVNA-Saver, a good address is
- this always
points to the latest release.
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 23:14, Oristo <ormpoa@...> wrote:
click on "nanovna-saver Perhaps NanoVNA-Saver should be listed more prominently in the Wiki
Software section
and a vote taken to assess its relative popularity.
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
If you want to link to NanoVNA-Saver, a good address Thanks, updated main Wiki page link JH4VAJ has written both a guide to the basic application,
as well as to the latest updates OK, added that as Rune's suggested guide
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
Very good Rune,
But, it does not address the guy who just opens the box.......
Mel, K6KBE
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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:26 PM Rune Broberg <mihtjel@...> wrote: Hi Oristo and Mel,
Thank you for your efforts in making a new user guide! I think it would be
most welcome.
I have no particular desire for a popularity contest. The latest version,
released Wednesday, has around 1100 downloads of the Windows version at
this point. Plenty to make me happy :-)
There are some decent guides out there that people have kindly written for
NanoVNA-Saver in various versions, if you want some inspiration. JH4VAJ has
written both a guide to the basic application, as well as to the latest
updates: is the "basic" guide.
If you want to link to NanoVNA-Saver, a good address is
- this always
points to the latest release.
--
Rune / 5Q5R
On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 23:14, Oristo <ormpoa@...> wrote:
click on "nanovna-saver Perhaps NanoVNA-Saver should be listed more prominently in the Wiki
Software section
and a vote taken to assess its relative popularity.
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
Oristo,
The group is a mix of simple users, bench technicians/engineers, and SW
artists. To address how to use this instrument is complex.
The initial user needs to address their application and user needs, the
manual and documents so far do not help. That is, have a branch in the
instructions for each user????
Don't you think that the first time user, of limited technical ability, is
overwhelmed with the complexity of the machine and needs to start with a
solid foundation using Saver? Rather than do a hunt and pick approach to
using the machine? The more technically endowed users don't need this kid
glove approach. But more do.
I am a retired engineer from the RF communications hard wire side of use.
If I can't pick an instrument up and read the user "short form get started"
and use it, it goes into the drawer for later consideration.
The instructions now are appalling. They do more to discourage use rather
and investigate the wonderful potential in this little box.
I have, with a lot of help, gotten to the point of being carefully
comfortable with its functions. That is, without using the manual at all.
It is more of a distraction than a help. The users I have contact with
have been much more help, thank you very much.
I will, for my own clarification, document my steps to go from one
application mode to another and save them in the files for recall. I would
hope others do the same and share it.
Mel, K6KBE
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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:14 PM Oristo <ormpoa@...> wrote: click on "nanovna-saver Perhaps NanoVNA-Saver should be listed more prominently in the Wiki
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W5DXP,
thank you very much! If you have update checks enabled, the application
will crash if there is no internet connection. Whoops! :-) I'll fix that in
the next version, and your screenshot has already helped me find the error
I need to handle - but for now, you can disable checking for updates -
either when the application starts and asks you, or by editing the
NanoVNASaver.ini file, and changing "CheckForUpdates=Yes" to
"CheckForUpdates=No". Not that I would recommend disabling updates, but if
the PC doesn't have a permanent internet connection, it wouldn't find
anything anyway. ;-)
I hope this helps, otherwise, do reach out to me again!
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 23:25, W5DXP <w5dxp@...> wrote: Rune, I have no problem running Saver 0.1.3 on my desktop. But tried
running it on my laptop today and got the following message which caused
Saver to abort.
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
Hi Oristo and Mel,
Thank you for your efforts in making a new user guide! I think it would be
most welcome.
I have no particular desire for a popularity contest. The latest version,
released Wednesday, has around 1100 downloads of the Windows version at
this point. Plenty to make me happy :-)
There are some decent guides out there that people have kindly written for
NanoVNA-Saver in various versions, if you want some inspiration. JH4VAJ has
written both a guide to the basic application, as well as to the latest
updates: is the "basic" guide.
If you want to link to NanoVNA-Saver, a good address is
- this always
points to the latest release.
--
Rune / 5Q5R
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 23:14, Oristo <ormpoa@...> wrote: click on "nanovna-saver Perhaps NanoVNA-Saver should be listed more prominently in the Wiki
Software section
and a vote taken to assess its relative popularity.
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Rune, I have no problem running Saver 0.1.3 on my desktop. But tried running it on my laptop today and got the following message which caused Saver to abort.
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
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Console command and FW 0.2.3 edy555
I have update the firmware to edy555 0.2.3 , all look ok .
In next step I tried to use console command , which commands is supported ?
I tried to use the scan and sweep , but i wasn't able to change the number of points.
Any suggestion ?
Many thanks in advance
Maurizio IZ1MDJ
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
Ok, Now that I have my glass of wine, I suggest something like this for the newbie. It is not without flaws, I am sure, and welcome additions to make it better. Here goes. 1. join the NanoVNA group on " [email protected]" take time to read the files and comments from the message list to get aquianted (sp) with the group. 2. go to the file section and click on "nanovna-saver-redirect.html", sign up for the releases. 3. go the site and go to the bottom of the page and click on "nanovna-saver.v0.1.3.exe" 4. follow the install instructions to your computer. I like a KISS approach. -- Mel, K6KBE
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
So a section that shows
all of the features with the computer That varies by app. I have worked on the manual for TAPR VNAR4 Windows software, which is relatively mature and only recently adapted for nanoVNA. The 7 nanoVNA apps of which I'm aware seem unique enough that no single manual could do them justice. what you can do without Documenting nanoVNA device usage is a better bounded problem, although confounded by firmware differences and largely by problematic menu organization. For example, it seems (to me) senseless to BACK out of TRACE selection for e.g. FORMAT, SCALE and CHANNEL, since those options apply only to the most recently selected trace. So far as I know, TRANSFORM applies only for TDR, AKA DELAY(?). Difficulty of actual MARKER manipulation on screen precludes demonstrating intended behavior.
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Re: The Male Calibration Kit for AliExpress
Hi Rudi I do not think there is anything required to add/change for the calibration settings. There are several possibilities for the deviation you see above 800MHz. 1. Did you use a male SMA to N female adaptor directly fitted to the SMA female adaptor for Ch0 ? 2. Did you before using the NanoVNAuser ensure the NanoVNA was correctly calibrated directely at the NanoVNA Ch0 female adaptor with the supplied calibration kit ? and did a sweep og a 25 to 50cm SMA test cable show better result 3. The test cable is probably too long and shall be a N type cable with no adaptors fitted 4. You NanoVNA has a poor bridge as NanoVNA as far as I know has no internal error correction There is probably more reasons and it would be better if you explained in details you setup Kind regards Kurt -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [email protected] < [email protected]> P? vegne af reuterr@... Sendt: 19. oktober 2019 19:30 Til: [email protected]Emne: Re: [nanovna-users] The Male Calibration Kit for AliExpress Hello Kurt, I have tried to apply your calibration paper. I have connected 50 cm RG402 coax cable to the Reference Plane. The nanoVNA-saver has an additional calibration with 5 segments. Please see the attached nanoVNA-saver screen capture: nanoVNA-saver_50cm-RG402-open.png What can I enter in the window Calibration->Calibration standards in order to improve the measurement? 73, Rudi DL5FA
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Re: Authorized Distributor with 6mo Warranty?
I received a NanaVNA from NooElec yesterday. It looks okay to me. I think it's a hugen original. Photos below. I ordered it Oct 12. They shipped it from upstate New York Oct 16 by first class USPS. I received it in central Texas in good condition Oct 18. Packing was two layers of bubble bags. The only thing looking like a "case" was the plastic box it ships in.
The promised extras were there - cables, couplers, and a cascade of attenuators. Re-sellers seem to like to sell a bundle like this to distinguish themselves otherwise they are just in a price war with others selling the same thing.
Shields are up. There is a 604020 450 mAh battery tack soldered in, no connector. There is no D2 voltage sense diode installed. The calibration kit looks to be the usual, nothing special there.
NooElec seems to be a small privately owned company. I think it has 50 employees or so. HQ seems to be upstate New York but I suspect it has most of its facilities in York, Ontario. I have bought from them before. They make and resell a range of small items for hams. While this is not the cheapest way to buy a NanoVNA it looks like a way to get a quality unit quickly in North America.
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Revised documetn on the N male calibration kit
Hi All
Rudi pointed out that ohms law should be defined more clearly and that is
corrected as well some few lingual bugs.
Please change the document on the WiKi Oristo
Kind regards
Kurt
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Very nice! Like this improvement very much. Tom K8EBR
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Re: The Male Calibration Kit for AliExpress
Hello Rudi Thank you, point taken. I have made a new version where a few lingual bugs corrected Kind regards Kurt -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: [email protected] < [email protected]> P? vegne af reuterr@... Sendt: 19. oktober 2019 18:31 Til: [email protected]Emne: Re: [nanovna-users] The Male Calibration Kit for AliExpress Hello Kurt, In order to minimize the confusion of beginners, please change Ohm's Law: R [Ohm] = U [Volt] / I [Ampere] or R = V / A. 73, Rudi DL5FA
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
Yes, and there in is the problem for the newbie. So a section that
shows all of the features with the computer and a similar section that
shows what you can do without it, and how, is needed..
Mel, K6KBE
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On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 12:23 PM Oristo <ormpoa@...> wrote: How to do all of the above without a computer. Without a computer, only 3. and 7. are possible.
NanoVNA has internal nonvolatile storage only for firmware and
configuration, including calibrations.
/g/nanovna-users/message/829
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Rune,
I generated one with the STMicro utilities.
Tnx,
Mike
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On 10/19/2019 3:08 PM, Mike Seguin wrote: Hi Rune,
Tnx! Is there a DFU available?
Mike
On 10/19/2019 3:02 PM, Rune Broberg wrote:
Hi Mike,
I have had good experiences with edy555's 0.2.3:
I know the software should work with other firmwares as well, but that's
what I test against, at least.
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Mike, N1JEZ
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"
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Re: Abbreviated documentation for more simplistic tasks?
How to do all of the above without a computer. Without a computer, only 3. and 7. are possible. NanoVNA has internal nonvolatile storage only for firmware and configuration, including calibrations. /g/nanovna-users/message/829
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Oristo
Kurt Poulsen
Mike N1JEZ