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18 : @Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd :
/g/nanovna-users/message/3181

Hello,

Thank you very much for your interest in our work !

We much appreciate that; indeed. Therefore, allow
us, please, to inform you that, on the one hand
English is -obviously- not our native language, and,
on the other hand, we are deeply regret since our
limited presentation abilities still create so much
confusion to you, even after you already read all
of our references on this subject, of course,
because these are : "the document" "including
adequate references, much like a scientific paper"
you ask for. However, and in addition to these,
we already wrote, but obviously you didn't notice
it too, at:

14 : /g/nanovna-users/message/3111

"
this is the current state of published research on
this subject, excluding some papers under preparation
in order to be published in our small journal:


"
Nevertheless, it is needless to say that we don't
agree at all with your, obviously subjective, comment
that "The whole issue is far from simple"
-
which, by the way, it appears as it is orchestrally
emanated from some honorable specialists of
this forum
-
as it unreasonably discourages any Radio Amateur,
who is absolute beginner or newcomer to the subject
to even give it a chance to attempt to follow it !

And, as your scientific titles imply, it is certain that
you know very well that this is the worst anti-scientific
attempt to patronize the unsuspecting innocent
victim who comes here wanting to learn.

Anyway, since we always try to be good
listeners, we shall also attempt to follow your
valuable subjective suggestions on this very subject
and to learn our lessons : Thank you once more !

Now, regarding the objective points you had the
kindness to also set, which, we assume, you are
definitely referenced to:

[17] : From A Common User's Point Of View
/g/nanovna-users/message/2521

allow us, please, to also gladly answer them, as follows:

(1) You are absolutely right about the "incomplete
definitions of the equations".

This was a deliberate omission, in order to check how
many of the honorable members of this forum
-
who desperately declare their thirsty for the Knowledge,
that is they also passionately seek it in way which
exactly coincides with that permanent of ours
-
are indeed interested for it. Therefore, we also thank
you very much, since you are giving us the happiness
to notice that:

the capital letters are representatives of the "true value"
-
[ well, if you don't have a feeling of what this exactly
[ means, then allow us, please, to inform you that
[ you are not alone, but just one of us, and that all
[ together we are, with many others who have the
[ scientific honesty to admit that they also don't know
[ what that really means, because, in our humble
[ opinion, this is a notion lying on the boundaries
[ between the philosophy and the science, that is it
[ is a primitive notion, an undefined term, and all that
[ in addition to the fact that there are many others,
[ who do not accept that exists such a "true value"
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A, B. C of three "known" loads, and Gama is of the
"unknown" one, while the small letters are the
representatives of the corresponding (VNA or
nanoVNA) "raw" measurements, with the rest
of the multi-letters to stand for either the well-known
indexed S-parameters or for intermediate variables
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just for the corresponding indexed Numerators to
be used in the calculations and|or the computations
-
which facilitate, as we hope, not only the
comprehension but also the programming, in the
way we are mentioning in [17], that is of complex
variables as they are all the aforementioned ones.

(2) Regarding your interesting contributing notes
about the phase matter, allow us, please to reserve
ourselves from commenting it right now.

Sincerely,

yin&pez@arg

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