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On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 11:29:19 a.m. EST, N5SE <bwmoore@...> wrote:

I have tried to download the NanoVNA-App as recommended by Larry Rothman. I searched FireFox for "Nanovna-App".

Got:

1) => Got NanoVNA-App is the very powerful windows software developed by OneOfEleven for NanoVNA and LibreVNA.

You can download the per-compiled software here. "here" leads to a full page of machine code!

2) => NanoVNA-Web-Client / WebApp

NanoVNA-Web-Client/WebApp was developed by cho45 and can be used by accessing using the latest version of chrome browser.
(The link => blank page)

PLEASE ANYONE! Is there anyway to search for a simple PC download such as NanoVNA-App with out multiple dead-ends and goobygook. In all my years, I have never seen such unorganized and in-accessible data. I just do not understand.

Do not try to tell me where to find NanoVNA-APP, please explain this filing system and how it is organized in PLAIN SIMPLE terms. If you cannot use actual URL's, then PLEASE do not answer with general terms. And if your answer involves GITHUB, definitely use URL's. I have never used github.

Thanks in advance,
30, Billy

[cid:12814b77-0fbc-4158-b040-408ee0488153][Billy Wayne Moore]

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of N5SE via groups.io <bwmoore@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 09:58
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [nanovna-users] Confused Newbie - Connected

Larry,

I do not mean to be impertinent or insulting nor do I want to offend you, I am only frustrated. The problem with your advice is always the SAME.
I quote you:

"I have modified the GUI of DefuseDemo and placed it in the files section. My mod enables larger font and better description of the functions of the buttons. Grab the zip'ed file and read the instructions."

You might as well as say "Go to FireFox", grab the zip'ed file!" You make a high level generalized statement and expect someone who does not understand a word you say to jump through the hoop and execute!

Now to explain, WHAT FILES SECTION? I go to /g/nanovna-users and click on /g/nanovna-users/files (THE FILES SECTION?). I get a gobblygook of what could be write-ups; who knows from the explanations. I see nothing about a zip file or Larry Rothman. I finally see down on entry 8, Firmware. So I click on it.? I see five entries with Larry Rothman as author; all leading to PDF files. four of these five have firmware in them, alas which one?
1) First one goes to "hugen's firmware release notes as of Oct 9, 2019" and has a link to " which is non-clickable. I copied it, went to it, more gobblygook.
2) Second goes to "Groups.io Maintenance, Groups.io is currently undergoing maintenance. We apologize for the downtime, and expect to be back shortly., To see some cats, click here" Yes, it actually says "cats". Been here before, never goes away or changes!
3) Third, same as Second!
4) Just quit and give up on this frustrating trip.

Larry, when dealing with a Newbie, you have to present a clear map to follow. PLEASE copy and post a clear, specific starting URL. Then YOU click on each URL and post the next specific URL and the specific full name of the item to click on. Continue doing this until you have led the Newbie to the destination desired. Then give the full name to download. You have not even given the name of the zip file to download, I do not even know what I am looking for! I am so frustrated, I am ready to quit!

I do understand you want to and are trying to help. This often happens when a professional tries to help a layman. You cannot comprehend of anyone not understanding the terms you use. I had a Physics Professor that used to write a complicated expression on the board; stand back and look at it; say the answer is CLEAR; write CLEAR on the board; say QED, and write QED on the board. The class got up a petition to the Professor requesting him to go through each step solving the equation before reaching the QED. Next class, he wrote one of his famous equations on the board; stepped back and looked at it; stated CLEAR as 1+1=2; wrote CLEAR as 1+1=2 QED on the board; and said class dismissed. Talking to the Professor later, he REALLY thought he was meeting the petition request.

Larry, I feel I back in that class, but I must sincerely thank you for what you do,
30, Billy