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Updating from an Intel to 14" M3 Pro MacBook Pro

 

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My new laptop is on its way, directly from Shanghai. My current plan is to use Migration Assistant to populate it. My Late 2019 16” ?MacBook Pro is running Ventura. I have TB 3/4 cables available. I have a few questions:
  1. Should I update the current computer to Sonoma before doing the Migration Assistant?
  2. Should I do the migration directly from the 2019 computer, or should I do it from my SuperDuper! clone (in which case of course I’d need to update the clone first as well. The clone is on a TB3-equipped SSD stick.
  3. I assume that I’ll need to do some extra work to get my MS Office updated to versions that run natively on the Apple Silicon SOC (or maybe not; my MS Office Apps are all listed as “Universal” and labeled as version 16.78.3). However, I do have SOME applications that are labeled as “Intel” ?How do I accomplish that part of the migration?

I should say a bit about why I’m updating now:
  1. I’m assuming that I’m likely at a flex point in the trade-in value of my older laptop because likely it will no longer receive updates after one or two more fall OS version releases.
  2. As I get older, my travel briefcase gets heavier each year, and the improvement in screen brightness and resolution will more than make up for the slightly smaller screen size. Indeed, one of the things holding me back from updating was the fear that my fingers wouldn’t accommodate to a “tighter” keyboard, but I’ve just learned that the 14” and 16” keyboards are the same.
  3. I rarely use the context-sensitive strip of icons above the numerals on my older computer.

Any particular “gotchas” to watch out for?

One other “story.” I spent almost 40 years within 100 miles of 1 Infinite Loop and had the pleasure of looking at the Apple Spaceship both from the SJO and SFO landing patterns AND from inside on numerous occasions, as well as at LEAST a half dozen Apple Retail emporia within easy driving distance much of that time, but here in MT there is none within <500 miles. I did a bit of hands on at Apple Fifth Avenue last week during a one week stay with my son, learning in the process:
  1. Apple sales associates don’t know as much as they used to about their own products
  2. The “Today at Apple” sessions are targeted almost exclusively at beginners
  3. Although the entire population of my retirement home in college town MT would fit into a single city block of Jackson Heights (Queens) NY, in many ways it’s easier to get around in NYC than it is here!at
  4. “Eataly” is just as delightful as ever (to a guy who’s at no risk of becoming an IV drug user as long as no one figures out a way to mainline tagliatelle).
  5. This was my first opportunity to use Apple’s iOS 17 Maps app for Mass Transit (and that includes walking among 10s of thousands of pedestrians). One wonders if even Steve Jobs had a clue how essential for modern daily life the original iPhone would become. The other thing that amazed me is that New Yorkers walk an enormous amount, and far fewer of them are obese than in most of Ameri”car.” I’m pretty sure that sentence could be reconstructed as a tautology!
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Jim Robertson

 

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Jim Robertson wrote:
My new laptop is on its way, directly from Shanghai. My current plan is to use Migration Assistant to populate it. My Late 2019 16” ?MacBook Pro is running Ventura. I have TB 3/4 cables available. I have a few questions:
  1. Should I update the current computer to Sonoma before doing the Migration Assistant?
  2. Should I do the migration directly from the 2019 computer, or should I do it from my SuperDuper! clone (in which case of course I’d need to update the clone first as well. The clone is on a TB3-equipped SSD stick.
  3. I assume that I’ll need to do some extra work to get my MS Office updated to versions that run natively on the Apple Silicon SOC (or maybe not; my MS Office Apps are all listed as “Universal” and labeled as version 16.78.3). However, I do have SOME applications that are labeled as “Intel” ?How do I accomplish that part of the migration?

I would:
  • Update the clone backup at the last minute before copying from the old laptop, then set it aside.
  • Boot up the new laptop, do the basic start-up stuff, …
  • … make sure it is up-to-date with Sonoma, then
  • connect the 2 laptops via Thunderbolt, and use Migration Assistant to complete the installation on the new machine directly from the old machine.
  • Do NOTHING with the clone for a while until you are sure all the important things are working correctly on the new machine,
  • THEN update the clone from the new machine.
I don’t attempt to answer questions having to do with Microsoft…

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Jim Saklad
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On Nov 14, 2023, at 8:20 AM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

I don’t attempt to answer questions having to do with Microsoft…

I can’t even make the following joke without offending some, but that’s never stopped me before.

Disclaimer: the following sentence may not—read doesn’t—reflect my own politics. One of my neighbors describes my new home town of Bozeman, MT as “an island of blue in a sea of reality.” One can also see Microsoft in similar light.

Less than 48 hours ago, I was still in NYC. In the Chelsea neighborhood (beneath the lovely HighLine “rails to trails” walking path) there exist two stores, one labeled Microsoft, the other labeled by a holiday-refreshed bitten-Apple logo. Looking in to the former, one sees a sea of Blue Shirts, virtually unpolluted by any customers. In the latter, two pleasant red T-shirted greeters are visible at the door, and through the glass windows one sees a smattering of those same red shirts amid hordes of smiling visitors.

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Jim Robertson

 

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On Nov 14, 2023, at 8:20 AM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

I don’t attempt to answer questions having to do with Microsoft…

I should have asked my real question again of someone else in the group. I’m assuming the Intel only applications that populate my new MacBook Pro will run under Rosetta, and additionally assume that IF they do, it’s up to me to decide whether I should go hunting for “Universal” replacements. A few are actually labeled “other” and without exception, those are labeled as originating from “unidentified” developers. I may be back with more questions about those.?

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Jim Robertson

 

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Have you tried looking at:

On Nov 14, 2023, at 10:19?AM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

I should have asked my real question again of someone else in the group. I’m assuming the Intel only applications that populate my new MacBook Pro will run under Rosetta, and additionally assume that IF they do, it’s up to me to decide whether I should go hunting for “Universal” replacements. A few are actually labeled “other” and without exception, those are labeled as originating from “unidentified” developers. I may be back with more questions about those.?

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Bev in TX

 

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On Nov 14, 2023, at 1:42 PM, Bev in TX <countryone77@...> wrote:

Have you tried looking at:


I had not, but’I’ll do so. The computer arrives tomorrow, so some may recognize a welcome respite from my endless online ruminations?:

At first glance viewing the link you posted, my eyes were drawn to the bottom left of the table, where I read

Showing 1 to 10 of 9,135 apps

Fortunately, the resulting vision of a year of “all nighters,” command-tabbing back and forth between “System Reports's” list of installed apps, roaringapps’s compatibility table, and Safari links to their publishers was but a momentary delusion. There’s a “search” input box in the upper right!


Thanks so much, Bev!
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?But I’ll add that your respite will be brief. Apple’s spell checker tells me that there is no “s” adorned plural of rumination. I don’t know at the moment whether my saintly English literature professor and prescriptive grammarian mom failed me, or whether the truth is that it’s impossible to worry about more than one thing at once, and Herr Heisenberg is not immediately available to comment. For the moment, I’m blaming my mom or the spell checker.


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Jim Robertson

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