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Old back up in trash by mistake..Help! #Mac


 

I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn’t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn’t work. If I can’t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.

Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?
Jeannie?


 

Not sure what you are trying to do: make room for a *new* backup by deleting an old one no longer required, or reinstate that old backup because you might still need it?

To reverse a previous deletion (send to Trash) you just repeat that (command-delete) on that folder now in Trash.

Please do NOT do something rash than cannot be reversed!?

Otto

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 00:16, Jeannie Girard <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to? put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn’t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn’t work. If I can’t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.

Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?


 

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Otto, I do not understand what you are saying. I have tried everything to get it back to that external drive. I was just trying to get rid of the backup from my old computer. I now I have new one. If I could return it back to the time machine on that old drive, my trash ?would then be empty, and I could use it to delete ?whatever needs to be deleted ?as I use my computer. ?Please try to explain ?what ? I should do
Jeannie?

On Oct 26, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

Not sure what you are trying to do: make room for a *new* backup by deleting an old one no longer required, or reinstate that old backup because you might still need it?

To reverse a previous deletion (send to Trash) you just repeat that (command-delete) on that folder now in Trash.

Please do NOT do something rash than cannot be reversed!?

Otto

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 00:16, Jeannie Girard <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to? put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn’t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn’t work. If I can’t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.

Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?



 

I'm sorry but I'm still confused.?

Get what "back to that external drive"? Where is it now??

Is "that old drive" another?drive??

Which Trash? On your computer?or on the external (or old?) drive? Each volume (drive or partition) has its own Trash, which not everyone realises.

I hope we can clarify this.
;)
Otto

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 02:45, Jeannie Girard <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
Otto, I do not understand what you are saying. I have tried everything to get it back to that external drive. I was just trying to get rid of the backup from my old computer. I now I have new one. If I could return it back to the time machine on that old drive, my trash ?would then be empty, and I could use it to delete ?whatever needs to be deleted ?as I use my computer.? Please try to explain ?what ? I should do
Jeannie?


 

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It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under 400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn’t work, I trued going in to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it for whatever.?

I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30 day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro, But it is done, and now I have to try a way to ?either get rid of it, or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets full.?

I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to do that. ?I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to try it again.?

If I can’t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see what they can do
Jeannie?

On Oct 27, 2019, at 7:42 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

I'm sorry but I'm still confused.?

Get what "back to that external drive"? Where is it now??

Is "that old drive" another?drive??

Which Trash? On your computer?or on the external (or old?) drive? Each volume (drive or partition) has its own Trash, which not everyone realises.

I hope we can clarify this.
;)
Otto

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 02:45, Jeannie Girard <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
Otto, I do not understand what you are saying. I have tried everything to get it back to that external drive. I was just trying to get rid of the backup from my old computer. I now I have new one. If I could return it back to the time machine on that old drive, my trash ?would then be empty, and I could use it to delete ?whatever needs to be deleted ?as I use my computer.? Please try to explain ?what ? I should do
Jeannie?





 

If it's to free space, it uses the same whether it's in the Trash or where it was originally.?

I was going to suggest a Unix (Terminal) command, but I suspect that is what 'Trash It' uses.

If you want to try it anyway, be very careful in getting it right. Start up Applications > Utilities > Terminal and copy-paste this
rm -rf ~/.Trash/?
then press enter.?
If you get a permissions failure, try
sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/
which?will prompt you for your password.?

It will not be instant?as there must be a huge number of files in there, so be patient.?

There *is* an option for Trash to empty automatically, but you need to select?it in Finder > Preferences > Advanced. That could be long wait, though. ;)

BTW how much free space do you have?

Otto

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 16:17, Jeannie Girard <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under 400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn’t work, I trued going in to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it for whatever.?

I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30 day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro, But it is done, and now I have to try a way to ?either get rid of it, or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets full.?

I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to do that.? I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to try it again.?

If I can’t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see what they can do


 

what happens when you right click on the item and select PUT BACK in finder?

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 04:16 PM, Jeannie Girard wrote:
I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn’t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn’t work. If I can’t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.

Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?
Jeannie?


 

Howdy.

Boot in Safe Disk Mode. Then empty Trash.

Denver Dan


On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 10:17:47 -0600, Jeannie Girard wrote:
It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of
the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run
empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under
400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn’t work, I trued going in
to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if
there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had
deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it
for whatever.

I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30
day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I
should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro,
But it is done, and now I have to try a way to either get rid of it,
or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets
full.

I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to
do that. I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to
try it again.

If I can’t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see
what they can do
Jeannie?
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Otto Nikolaus wrote:
If you want to try it anyway, be very careful in getting it right. Start up Applications > Utilities > Terminal and copy-paste this
sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/
which?will prompt you for your password.?

Better yet
:
Open the Trash in Finder
OpenTerminal
Enter ?sudo rm -rf ? in Terminal
Type a <space> after that
Then, go the the open Trash folder and drag something you want to delete to the open Terminal window

This will add the file, and its exact filepath, to the command, so you can’t possible make an error with that.

Then <Enter>, and provide your password.

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...


 

I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that?the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent?it to the trash.
Jeannie

What kind of a backup is/was this?
A clone, a Time Machine backup, something else?

I ask only because there is a (relatively) simple, safe way of deleting Time Machine backups. I got this from a website, and have used it many times in the past:

How to remove Time Machine backups

Be careful with sudo and making sure you pick the correct Mac's files since there is no undo or confirmation of the following command:

sudo tmutil delete /Volumes/drive_name/Backups.backupdb/old_mac_name

The sudo command needs your password (and it won't echo to the screen, so just type it and pause to be sure you're deleting the correct files before pressing enter). If you want to be safer, you can pick one snapshot to delete first to be sure the command works as intended. This is nice since it could take hours to clean up some larger backup sets and you want to leave the Mac confident it's deleting the correct information store.

You can use the tmutil tool to delete backups one by one.

sudo tmutil delete /Volumes/drive_name/Backups.backupdb/mac_name/YYYY-MM-DD-hhmmss

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...



 

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 20:11, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc=[email protected]> wrote:

Better yet
:
Open the Trash in Finder
OpenTerminal
Enter ?sudo rm -rf ? in Terminal
Type a <space> after that
Then, go the the open Trash folder and drag something you want to delete to the open Terminal window

This will add the file, and its exact filepath, to the command, so you can’t possible make an error with that.

Then <Enter>, and provide your password.

Yes that is a great feature of Terminal + Finder and I would normally suggest that, but in this case we want to delete everything in there. Copy-paste is safe for this short command.?

Otto


 

Sometimes, just a restart and then Empty Trash works, but Safe Mode should do it.

No, there is no pref in Finder that I am aware of to remove after 30 days. I think you are confusing it with Mail.app, and you have to select that options.

Brent

On Oct 27, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Daniel Settles wrote:

Howdy.

Boot in Safe Disk Mode. Then empty Trash.

Denver Dan


On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 10:17:47 -0600, Jeannie Girard wrote:
It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of
the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run
empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under
400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn’t work, I trued going in
to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if
there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had
deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it
for whatever.

I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30
day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I
should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro,
But it is done, and now I have to try a way to either get rid of it,
or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets
full.

I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to
do that. I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to
try it again.

If I can’t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see
what they can do
Jeannie?
[|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|]

iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro



 

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On Oct 27, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:

Sometimes, just a restart and then Empty Trash works, but Safe Mode should do it.

No, there is no pref in Finder that I am aware of to remove after 30 days. I think you are confusing it with Mail.app, and you have to select that options.



I’m still in 10.13.6, but it is there. Under Finder Preferences > advanced. A checkbox. Seems that 30 days is the only choice, though. Either that duration or nothing. Maybe a terminal command can change that?


Barry Austern





 

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That was not an option unfortunately?

Jeannie

?

On Oct 27, 2019, at 12:30 PM, rmpbklyn <rmaniacnyc@...> wrote:

what happens when you right click on the item and select PUT BACK in finder?
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 04:16 PM, Jeannie Girard wrote:
I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn’t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn’t work. If I can’t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.

Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?
Jeannie?


 

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I was not looking to free space as that backup drive s three TB. I was just thinking to get rid of the back up from my old computer,as I now have a new one. Right now my iMac has been chugging along for over 24 hours trying to delete what is in the trash,and I am staying off the computer?

?Jeannie

On Oct 27, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

If it's to free space, it uses the same whether it's in the Trash or where it was originally.?

I was going to suggest a Unix (Terminal) command, but I suspect that is what 'Trash It' uses.

If you want to try it anyway, be very careful in getting it right. Start up Applications > Utilities > Terminal and copy-paste this
rm -rf ~/.Trash/?
then press enter.?
If you get a permissions failure, try
sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/
which?will prompt you for your password.?

It will not be instant?as there must be a huge number of files in there, so be patient.?

There *is* an option for Trash to empty automatically, but you need to select?it in Finder > Preferences > Advanced. That could be long wait, though. ;)

BTW how much free space do you have?

Otto

On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 16:17, Jeannie Girard <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under 400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn’t work, I trued going in to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it for whatever.?

I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30 day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro, But it is done, and now I have to try a way to ?either get rid of it, or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets full.?

I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to do that.? I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to try it again.?

If I can’t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see what they can do


 

I'm still on way back 10.7.5, and it is not there.


On Oct 27, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Barry Austern via Groups.Io wrote:



On Oct 27, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:

Sometimes, just a restart and then Empty Trash works, but Safe Mode should do it.

No, there is no pref in Finder that I am aware of to remove after 30 days. I think you are confusing it with Mail.app, and you have to select that options.



I’m still in 10.13.6, but it is there. Under Finder Preferences > advanced. A checkbox. Seems that 30 days is the only choice, though. Either that duration or nothing. Maybe a terminal command can change that?


Barry Austern






 

I'm sorry, Brent, but comments based on an 8-year old OS are not likely to be relevant unless the OP specifically says that's what they are running.
;)
Otto

On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 00:35, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:
I'm still on way back 10.7.5, and it is not there.


 

That is a pretty broad statement, especially since no one includes their hardware and software specs anymore. I think I have posted mine several times in the last week or so.?

Also many things have not changed. And I am a try the easiest solution first and Keep It Simple, Sam, kinda guy.

Brent


On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:00 PM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote:

I'm sorry, Brent, but comments based on an 8-year old OS are not likely to be relevant unless the OP specifically says that's what they are running.
;)
Otto

On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 00:35, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:
I'm still on way back 10.7.5, and it is not there.





 

Have you tried this:
- open Finder
- click on Finder in the menu bar and select empty trash.

You may be doing a secure delete, which is time-consuming.
Be sure that option is not selected.

Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!

On Oct 27, 2019, at 12:17, Jeannie Girard <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
But it is done, and now I have to try a way to either get rid of it, or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets full.


 

The empty trash option is grayed out. In the mean time, I have stayed off the computer, cancelled each back up , and the trash shows right now, over 1 million, 476 thousand items have been deleted
Jeannie?

On Oct 28, 2019, at 7:49 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@...> wrote:

Have you tried this:
- open Finder
- click on Finder in the menu bar and select empty trash.

You may be doing a secure delete, which is time-consuming.
Be sure that option is not selected.

Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!

On Oct 27, 2019, at 12:17, Jeannie Girard <photojeannie8@...> wrote:
But it is done, and now I have to try a way to either get rid of it, or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets full.