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SOLVED! missing Menu Bar in High Sierra


 

BANG! BANG! BANG!

I¡¯m trying to kill the thread. First, no response for 2 days, then replies after I posted that it was solved, yesterday, the replies started.

Thanks for the effort, but as I said earlier, it is a known incompatibility issue, uncommon, but known, from the early days of HDMI.

No, AirPlay is not turned on. I haven¡¯t even figured out how to use it. It did not even present correctly in Finder. It presented as ¡°domain AirPlay¡± which is a flag it is not setup correctly.

Brent
On my Mac mini, now running 10.15.7

On Dec 12, 2023, at 3:28 PM, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

Just a thought, but is AirPlay using the Roku any use for this, or is there just too much lag?

Otto

On 12 Dec 2023, at 19:45, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

With various early TVs, there may or not me a workaround. I am guessing the dividing line is if HDMI versions 1.2 or 1.4 are involved.

In my case, I am using a 2009 Vizio and a Late 2012 Mac Mini. Apple Support could not find anything on the issue, and I went thru all the setting with a tier 2 Vizio support version. None of the keywords from the one good article I found were anywhere.


 

Sorry, but I need to pursue this.

To be clear, it will never work correctly via HDMI on that particular TV?

AirPlay to our 2012 Sony Bravia via the Roku works very well. It appears in the Mac¡¯s top menu in both the speaker and AirPlay menus. I *think* it was ¡°on¡± by default in the Roku system settings.

My MBP is on 10.14.

Otto

On 13 Dec 2023, at 03:11, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

BANG! BANG! BANG!

I¡¯m trying to kill the thread. First, no response for 2 days, then replies after I posted that it was solved, yesterday, the replies started.

Thanks for the effort, but as I said earlier, it is a known incompatibility issue, uncommon, but known, from the early days of HDMI.

No, AirPlay is not turned on. I haven¡¯t even figured out how to use it. It did not even present correctly in Finder. It presented as ¡°domain AirPlay¡± which is a flag it is not setup correctly.


 

My apologies for misunderstand. I didn¡¯t understand that you had an issue and were widening the inquiry. I didn¡¯t see relation between the two. I apologize.

My issue had nothing to do with AirPlay, but a HDMI cable, two older devices and the fact that in the past Apple and the TV industry did not interpret the HDMI standards for the first version the same.

What are your devices doing wrong?The way you wrote it, it sounded as if you were asking me to check a setting to solve my issue.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Dec 13, 2023, at 03:58, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

?Sorry, but I need to pursue this.

To be clear, it will never work correctly via HDMI on that particular TV?

AirPlay to our 2012 Sony Bravia via the Roku works very well. It appears in the Mac¡¯s top menu in both the speaker and AirPlay menus. I *think* it was ¡°on¡± by default in the Roku system settings.

My MBP is on 10.14.

Otto

On 13 Dec 2023, at 03:11, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

BANG! BANG! BANG!

I¡¯m trying to kill the thread. First, no response for 2 days, then replies after I posted that it was solved, yesterday, the replies started.

Thanks for the effort, but as I said earlier, it is a known incompatibility issue, uncommon, but known, from the early days of HDMI.

No, AirPlay is not turned on. I haven¡¯t even figured out how to use it. It did not even present correctly in Finder. It presented as ¡°domain AirPlay¡± which is a flag it is not setup correctly.





 

Brent we (again) seem to have a misunderstanding!

I should have said ¡°want¡±, not ¡°need¡±, to pursue this.

I don¡¯t have an issue; I just want to know that you¡¯ve tried the Roku with AirPlay as a means of connecting to the TV instead of HDMI directly.

Instead of Mac > HDMI > TV
you will have
Mac > AirPlay > Roku > HDMI > TV

It¡¯s quite amazing the amount of functionality built into the Roku for such a bargain price.

Otto

On 13 Dec 2023, at 18:04, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

My apologies for misunderstand. I didn¡¯t understand that you had an issue and were widening the inquiry. I didn¡¯t see relation between the two. I apologize.

My issue had nothing to do with AirPlay, but a HDMI cable, two older devices and the fact that in the past Apple and the TV industry did not interpret the HDMI standards for the first version the same.

What are your devices doing wrong?The way you wrote it, it sounded as if you were asking me to check a setting to solve my issue.
Unsubscribe: /g/macsupportcentral/leave/4323935/180919/1147748077/xyzzy [otto.nikolaus@...]
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Yes, misunderstandings, yet again.

I see what I omitted to make you look in that direction.

I intend to use the Vizio as a monitor, not a TV. Think about it for a second. What is a Mac mini, but a headless Mac.

I might have been oriented in that direction as I have in the past used a KVM switch to run 3 Macs, with only 1 monitor. And previously this Vizio was used as both a second display and as a TV.

The conflict I had was with using HDMI. I very briefly said the problem went away when I screen shared with another Mac. (Viewing the mini¡¯s Desktop from my MBP.) Or when Apple Support viewed the mini¡¯s Desktop remotely.

Uou can¡¯t see it from your seat, but the 22¡± Vizio is sitting next to a 42¡± Sylvania TV, where my Roku is attached.

And as I said, the only other port to possibly connect the mini is to use the Lightning port, but I don¡¯t think I could find a Ligthning to VGA adapter, which wouldn¡¯t carry the audio.

Bang! Bang!

Otto, let it die. I¡¯ve done trouble shooting for about 50 years.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Dec 14, 2023, at 03:53, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

?Brent we (again) seem to have a misunderstanding!

I should have said ¡°want¡±, not ¡°need¡±, to pursue this.

I don¡¯t have an issue; I just want to know that you¡¯ve tried the Roku with AirPlay as a means of connecting to the TV instead of HDMI directly.

Instead of Mac > HDMI > TV
you will have
Mac > AirPlay > Roku > HDMI > TV

It¡¯s quite amazing the amount of functionality built into the Roku for such a bargain price.

Otto

On 13 Dec 2023, at 18:04, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

My apologies for misunderstand. I didn¡¯t understand that you had an issue and were widening the inquiry. I didn¡¯t see relation between the two. I apologize.

My issue had nothing to do with AirPlay, but a HDMI cable, two older devices and the fact that in the past Apple and the TV industry did not interpret the HDMI standards for the first version the same.

What are your devices doing wrong?The way you wrote it, it sounded as if you were asking me to check a setting to solve my issue.
Unsubscribe: /g/macsupportcentral/leave/4323935/180919/1147748077/xyzzy [otto.nikolaus@...]


 

I sent the last post too soon. In the photo. The Sylvania is on the left, Roku out of the photo below and to the left of it.

On the right is the Vizio, and the lump on top is a camera. You can¡¯t see the keyboard in front of the Vizio. The late 2012 Mac mini is in the corner, behind the chair. You might be able to make out an Original Mac mini and 3rd gen Airport Extreme. My early MBP also behind the chair. A G4 2002 Quicksilver, PowerMac that has been overclocked and a dual-core added is below the desk in the corner.

In the mess in front of the Sylvania is an old KVM switch, which I will put in place to put a head on the original mini, the G4 tower, and maybe even the MBP, when I tell the Vizio to accept input thru the VGA port.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Dec 14, 2023, at 03:53, Otto Nikolaus via groups.io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

Brent we (again) seem to have a misunderstanding!