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Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 15:01, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote: So (to belabor the obvious), if I get a drive caddy and connect it to my iMac¡¯s USB3 port, I can file share with the Windows box and not need the Paragon software on the PC.
However, if I hook the Caddy up directly to the PC, I WILL need to have the Paragon software installed on the PC.
So, that means do the iMac surgery first, and if the ¡°patient¡± survives we can get by without buying the Paragon software.
Correct. File Sharing makes a computer act like a NAS.?
Windows cannot read HFS+ (or APFS) natively, so you need a third party product such as Paragon. (Macs can read NTFS, the Windows file system, but that's not relevant?here.)
You don't have a working Mac? I thought you had a Mac notebook.?
Otto
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Hi Janet
Try (on all your devices) turning off the iCloud mail in the appropriate settings for iCloud.?
I suspect it¡¯s the iCloud attempting to synch the rules which is causing the issues.? . Some imagination required.?
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On Nov 4, 2019, at 3:41 AM, Janet Brunner via Groups.Io <janetsbrunner@...> wrote:
? Good morning all, My mail rules are misbehaving terribly! ? I keep all my mail in folders, each one with a ¡°rule¡± to direct all email to that folder. For instance: ?macsupportcentral has it¡¯s own folder, and a rule set up so that if [macsupportcentral] is in the subject line, the mail would instantly go to that folder.
So this morning I got a pop up warning that the macsupportcentral folder didn¡¯t exist, and it couldn¡¯t move the mail to a non-existant folder. ?The pop-up persisted and would not let me do anything other than force quit mail.
I ended up going to mail on my iPhone and deleting the messages from macsupportcentral, and then opening mail on my Mac.
I went into ¡°rules¡± to see what was wrong, and the folder for macsupportcentral was unchecked. ?I checked it - the same thing happened the next time mail came in.
I have about 30 mail rules, and the rest of them work fine, it¡¯s just the mail coming from the 3 ?I belong to that are causing the problem, so I deleted those rules, quit mail, reopened mail and the same thing happened.
Again, deleted the mail on my phone so I could get into Mail on my Mac. Opened Rules and the rules that I delete were back, and were unchecked again. I deleted the rules, closed Mail and re-opened it - same thing - over and over again.
I got mad at this point and decided to delete ALL of my mail rules, thinking there was a glitch somewhere. ?One by one I removed them. Closed Mail, re-opened Mail and checked - all the rules were there again, but they were all unchecked.
I can¡¯t delete them!!!
Please, someone help me get his straightened out. ?Is there a place on my Mac that stores the mail rules outside of Mail, where perhaps I can permanently delete the rules and start over from scratch?
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Janet
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Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine
If you use File Sharing you don't need the Paragon product, regardless of the Mac drive's file system.
So (to belabor the obvious), if I get a drive caddy and connect it to my iMac¡¯s USB3 port, I can file share with the Windows box and not need the Paragon software on the PC.
However, if I hook the Caddy up directly to the PC, I WILL need to have the Paragon software installed on the PC.
So, that means do the iMac surgery first, and if the ¡°patient¡± survives we can get by without buying the Paragon software.
Thanks so much, Jim Robertson
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Randy and everyone,
Thank you so much for all your help and suggestions.
We are both very grateful to this group.
Rick
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Hi Jim! Yes, that is a great suggestion. However, in the past, I have just let the iMac go to sleep and then it woke up at the first touch of the keyboard without any issues. This is the first time doing this in Catalina. Like you said, it could be a bug in the new Catalina OS, or possibly a fluke. Letting it sleep, then awaking and see if the iWork apps can find their data or not. Thanks for the idea. I¡¯ll let everyone know the results. On Nov 4, 2019, at 9:11 AM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
I would leave my Mac running overnight again tonight and see if the same gremlins were active sometime during those early morning hours tomorrow once I woke up at a civilized hour.
Bob ¡¯The Beckster¡¯ Beckham FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement. Apple iMac 27¡± Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.1 - RAM 16 Gig 2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL 1993 Allen MDS Theater 2
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Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 13:58, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks to you, Jim Saklad, and Dan Settles for the prompt responses.
From what I¡¯ve read and from what Dan indicated, I think I need to make the Windows machine able to read HFS-formatted drives by installing Paragon HFS+ on the Windows box. Is that not the case?
We don¡¯t face this issue right now, but what happens if we need to get files from a Mac drive formatted APFS onto the Windows machine?
Current plans are for my son and I to tackle both tasks (my iMac surgery and my son¡¯s Mac -> Windows enormous file transfers) when we¡¯re together for Thanksgiving weekend. We¡¯ll both feel like Turkeys if we screw up either one.
If you use File Sharing you don't need the Paragon product, regardless of the Mac drive's file system.
Otto
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On Nov 4, 2019, at 6:45 AM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io < rbeckhm@...> wrote:
Sorry to be such a dummie. ?I had to relearn a lesson. ?If something isn¡¯t working right, shutdown and reboot. ?Duh! ?However, in my own defense, I¡¯ve never had that sort of issue before. ?1st time for everything.
I¡¯m certainly happy that worked for you, but if you have a Mac running the latest versions of Apple¡¯s ¡°Office¡± type apps and Apple¡¯s current macOS, and the apps cannot find their documents just because you didn¡¯t reboot in the morning, Apple engineers have some bugs to exterminate.
I would leave my Mac running overnight again tonight and see if the same gremlins were active sometime during those early morning hours tomorrow once I woke up at a civilized hour.
Because of what happened to time this weekend, I thought I¡¯d ask whether you¡¯re describing a problem that you discovered Sunday am rather than Monday am. Seems unlikely that the macOS could get confused by the termination of DST for the winter, but it seems we Americans are about as unanimous on DST as the British are on Brexit.
(Having just moved considerably farther north myself, I¡¯d say that anyone living south of the 45th parallel should not be able to vote! In proximity to Canada, we¡¯ve been waking up (or not) in the dark at 8 am, so I¡¯m very relieved that DST went away yesterday).
Jim Robertson
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Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine
Just get an external case with USB3. You can use it for backups after this.
Put a Mac Pro drive in the external case and connect to your Mac.
On your Mac, System Preferences > Sharing > File Sharing. Make sure the SMB option is enabled.?
A Windows machine on your network can now access the contents of the external.
Thanks to you, Jim Saklad, and Dan Settles for the prompt responses.
From what I¡¯ve read and from what Dan indicated, I think I need to make the Windows machine able to read HFS-formatted drives by installing Paragon HFS+ on the Windows box. Is that not the case?
We don¡¯t face this issue right now, but what happens if we need to get files from a Mac drive formatted APFS onto the Windows machine?
Current plans are for my son and I to tackle both tasks (my iMac surgery and my son¡¯s Mac -> Windows enormous file transfers) when we¡¯re together for Thanksgiving weekend. We¡¯ll both feel like Turkeys if we screw up either one.
Jim Robertson
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Ok folks, problem solved! I¡¯m such a doofus at times. I left the iMac powered up last night and forgot to shut it down. Upon waking, it couldn¡¯t find its¡¯ own files. Just a minute ago, I decided to SHUTDOWN and REBOOT. iWork apps are now working as usual. Sorry to be such a dummie. I had to relearn a lesson. If something isn¡¯t working right, shutdown and reboot. Duh! However, in my own defense, I¡¯ve never had that sort of issue before. 1st time for everything. On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm@...> wrote:
Just made an interesting observation . . . I also have a 1st Gen iPad Pro 12.9¡±. I opened Numbers and it finds and opens all my spreadsheets without any issue. So, for the moment, I can and sometimes do pay bills using the iPad. I can do that again. However, I do need to resolve this issue with my iMac. Bob ¡¯The Beckster¡¯ Beckham FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement. Apple iMac 27¡± Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.1 - RAM 16 Gig 2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL 1993 Allen MDS Theater 2
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Hi Folks! Just made an interesting observation . . . I also have a 1st Gen iPad Pro 12.9¡±. I opened Numbers and it finds and opens all my spreadsheets without any issue. So, for the moment, I can and sometimes do pay bills using the iPad. I can do that again. However, I do need to resolve this issue with my iMac. Should I run into any other issues, I¡¯ll let the group know. Also, if I happen to run into the solution to my present issue, then I will post that also. And just so everyone knows, I DO have a bootable backup of my system just minutes before the upgrade to Catalina. Worst case, I can boot this clone and work from it as there are few changes between these two installations. Of course, I¡¯d just like to get this Catalina thing working correctly. On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:23 AM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm@...> wrote:
I just checked and I have Numbers v.r 6.2 and Pages v.r 8.2 which are the latest ones. They may have changed the location where they are looking for the documents now. Gotta figure this out quick - it is bill paying week! Bob ¡¯The Beckster¡¯ Beckham FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement. Apple iMac 27¡± Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.1 - RAM 16 Gig 2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL 1993 Allen MDS Theater 2
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Hi Otto! Thanks so much for the quick reply. I¡¯ll check these things and see if it helps. I just checked and I have Numbers v.r 6.2 and Pages v.r 8.2 which are the latest ones. They may have changed the location where they are looking for the documents now. Gotta figure this out quick - it is bill paying week! On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
Perhaps this will help?
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Bob ¡¯The Beckster¡¯ Beckham FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement. Apple iMac 27¡± Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.1 - RAM 16 Gig 2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL 1993 Allen MDS Theater 2
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Perhaps this will help? <>
Otto
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 13:10, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Folks!
Just this morning I've found that Pages and Numbers will NOT open any of their files.? The files are still in the iCloud Drive folders that they have always been a part of, and until today, have been working fine.? Has anyone heard of an issue with Pages and Numbers not being able to open their own files???? I'm on Catalina 10.15.1.? This is the first time this has ever happened.
Thanks for the chatter!
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Hi Folks!
Just this morning I've found that Pages and Numbers will NOT open any of their files. The files are still in the iCloud Drive folders that they have always been a part of, and until today, have been working fine. Has anyone heard of an issue with Pages and Numbers not being able to open their own files??? I'm on Catalina 10.15.1. This is the first time this has ever happened.
Thanks for the chatter!
Best Wishes,
Bob Beckham
iMac Late 2012 16 Gig RAM 500 Gig SSD macOS 10.15.1
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Good morning all, My mail rules are misbehaving terribly! ? I keep all my mail in folders, each one with a ¡°rule¡± to direct all email to that folder. For instance: ?macsupportcentral has it¡¯s own folder, and a rule set up so that if [macsupportcentral] is in the subject line, the mail would instantly go to that folder.
So this morning I got a pop up warning that the macsupportcentral folder didn¡¯t exist, and it couldn¡¯t move the mail to a non-existant folder. ?The pop-up persisted and would not let me do anything other than force quit mail.
I ended up going to mail on my iPhone and deleting the messages from macsupportcentral, and then opening mail on my Mac.
I went into ¡°rules¡± to see what was wrong, and the folder for macsupportcentral was unchecked. ?I checked it - the same thing happened the next time mail came in.
I have about 30 mail rules, and the rest of them work fine, it¡¯s just the mail coming from the 3 ?I belong to that are causing the problem, so I deleted those rules, quit mail, reopened mail and the same thing happened.
Again, deleted the mail on my phone so I could get into Mail on my Mac. Opened Rules and the rules that I delete were back, and were unchecked again. I deleted the rules, closed Mail and re-opened it - same thing - over and over again.
I got mad at this point and decided to delete ALL of my mail rules, thinking there was a glitch somewhere. ?One by one I removed them. Closed Mail, re-opened Mail and checked - all the rules were there again, but they were all unchecked.
I can¡¯t delete them!!!
Please, someone help me get his straightened out. ?Is there a place on my Mac that stores the mail rules outside of Mail, where perhaps I can permanently delete the rules and start over from scratch?
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Janet
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Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine
Just get an external case with USB3. You can use it for backups after this.
Put a Mac Pro drive in the external case and connect to your Mac.
On your Mac, System Preferences > Sharing > File Sharing. Make sure the SMB option is enabled.?
A Windows machine on your network can now access the contents of the external.
Repeat with the other drive(s).?
You can do this over the internet using port forwarding if required but it will be much slower, of course.
Otto
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 01:13, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote: My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company had him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac Pro, but neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a Windows machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).
I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t know if any of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my iMac. My guess is that if we can do that, the best way to get them onto a Windows machine would be WiFi transfers over my LAN. Another option would be to put the files on a USB SSD stick, but if the stick is formatted to work on a Mac, I don¡¯t think they could be read by a Windows box.
Anyone have suggestions how to accomplish this task. Some of the files are very large (many-layer architectural drawings), so I don¡¯t think we could use a FAT-32-formatted USB SSD stick.
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:49 AM, ballyrick via Groups.Io wrote: The trouble only occurred a couple of days ago, when my wife tried to use the versions of Microsoft applications, on the iMac, "Word," Excel," "Power Point,"
etc. that she has been using for years on all the prior OS`s up to Mohave. You didn't say which version of Microsoft Office you have. Office 2011 isn't 64-bit, and never will be. So it can't run under Catalina. Office 2016 isn't 64-bit, but it can be updated for FREE to be, and once updated it will run find under Catallina: <> Office 2019 (the latest version), of course, is entirely compatible with Catalina. If you were using Office 2011 or earlier, and need a Microsoft Office replacement, may I recommend that you try this amazing FREE replacement first? (It is, after all, free. And you can just trash it if you don't like it.) FreeOffice (free) FreeOffice has a similar, but nicer interface than MS Word (I only use the word processing portion of it myself), and in my testing it has shockingly good compatibility with Word format files (both rendering and saving; much better than LibreOffice's compatibility), and it's absolutely free. it's 64-bit and runs under Catalina. There is a commercial version with a few more features, but the free version is all that many folks will ever need. Since it's free, it's worth checking out. A few days after downloading and registering the free version, the company will e-mail you an offer for the commercial version, called SoftMaker Office, for only $20. Which is entirely worth it if you like the free version, if for no other reason than to support the company. Comparison chart of the features and costs of each version of this Office product from Softmaker: <> Note that the business version is really only for big businesses with networks. Also note that there are BOTH stand-alone and subscription options, your choice. The $20 offer, noted above, does not require a subscription. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance ___________________________________________
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 5:27 AM, Sew Walker wrote: I have Mac OS Catalina 10.15.1
I can not find a website to download ONYX. -
Does any one know of one? Here it is, direct from the developer: ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance ___________________________________________
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Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine
jimrobertson wrote: My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company had?him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac Pro, but?neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a Windows?machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).
I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t know if any?of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my iMac. My guess?is that if we can do that, the best way to get them onto a Windows machine?would be WiFi transfers over my LAN. A USB3 dock that accepts 2.5 and 3.5 inch SATA drives. $30. <> Once you have this, there are many solutions open to you.
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