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Catalina Search, Find, Spotlight Oddness

 

Howdy.

I'm on macOS X 10.15.1 Catalina. Yesterday evening I updated from
macOS X 10.15 to 10.15.1.

This morning I tried some searches using Command f (Find).

The Spotlight indexing was suddenly including in search results a slew
of files in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup. Search
had not done that ever before.

For Mac newbies, the tilde (~/Library) character represents your Home
Account Library folder and not the other two Library folders.

The MobileSync/Backups folder is where the Mac keeps Backups of mobile
devices like iPhone and iPad. The subfolder names are gobbledegook and
no help in manually locating something.

Questions.

Is this something new?

Is it a Bug ?

Should MobileSync be added to the Exclude list in Time Machine panel?

Denver Dan

macOS X 10.15.1 Catalina
Mac Pro (late 2013) AKA Aubergine
16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, Many externals


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Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 
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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 09:28 AM, Lyle Syverson wrote:
¡° ¡­ In Apple Mail attachments are kept even when the message is deleted. ¡­ ¡°

Where on my hard drive are these messages kept?
this article May help: ?


Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

On Oct 29 Barry Austern, wrote:

¡° ¡­ In Apple Mail attachments are kept even when the message is deleted. ¡­ ¡°

Where on my hard drive are these messages kept?

Lyle Syverson
Mac mini (Late 2014)
10.14.6


Re: General OS Upgrade Policy #Upgrading

 

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On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm@...> wrote:

In hindsight, there was no reason for me to wait.?

Voices in my business (film and video production) are strongly advising against 10.15.1 for ¡°working systems¡± and sticking with High Sierra and Mojave until (at least) 10.15.2. This is not surprising since Catalina contains major architectural changes.

There is no right or wrong answer. These days it¡¯s very rare to ¡°need¡± the newest OS. The changes are generally inconsequential, at least until time has passed and support for prior versions wanes.

When I was younger, I always upgraded, and dealt with the consequences. My desire to stay on the front edge far outweighed my concerns about risk. I dare say that solving the newest problems was part of my pleasure.

I am currently not running anything more recent than High Sierra. I see nothing in Mojave or Cataline that excites me. Okay, I like dark themes. But nothing else. ;)

Cheers,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?tod


Re: Duplicate Calendar Holidays

 

I might like that weekly calendar rather than my monthly. Sounds good.

Meanwhile, in my fiddling something straightening out because I have just one mention of each US holiday now.

Thanks!

Becky

On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

My default is Weekly. Having a column per day is just right for me.

Otto

On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 23:04, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
We may be looking at different views. I¡¯m looking at monthly - I could probably do well to switch to daily if I¡¯m going to keep this up.


Re: General OS Upgrade Policy #Upgrading

 

Hi!

I was going to wait until at least the first update at 10.15.01 at least. However, due to the general chatter about Catalina, I went ahead and upgraded a couple weeks after it was released. Today the 10.15.1 update came out and I upgraded to it.

In hindsight, there was no reason for me to wait. The upgrade from Mojave went without a burp, and everything seems to work ok. My boot drive is encrypted and there was no issue relating to that either.

SOME people do have serious problems, and I have no idea why. However, the vast majority of folks have no serious problems relating to the Catalina release of the macOS. The 10.15.1 release adds some functionality and a few bug fixes. Nothing earth shattering. Probably the best reason to upgrade would be better security against various forms of malware.

The ONLY recommendation that I have regarding upgrading/updating the OS is to BACKUP immediately to a bootable clone of a working drive BEFORE updating. Then worst case you just boot from the backup to get back to a working boot drive. Easy peasy.

On Oct 29, 2019, at 8:00 PM, ballyrick via Groups.Io <ballyrick@...> wrote:

Whenever I bought a new car, I usually waited until the new or updated model is about a year old.
I've remained equally patient with MAC OS software, hoping by the time I update, the bugs have been weeded out.
Since I am a relative newbie to the world of technology, I have no idea whether what I'm doing is prudent or not.
Bob ¡¯The Beckster¡¯ Beckham
FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement.
Apple iMac 27¡± Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.0 - RAM 16 Gig
2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL
1993 Allen MDS Theater 2


Re: ! Update Required #Privacy

 

Hi Folks,
??? Randy's advice, as usual, is spot on. I have personally moved to the latest version of Firefox and eliminated all search engines except StartPage,
Ixquick and Duckduckgo. Firefox can be massively tailored to protect one's online privacy using the articles Randy referenced from restoreprivacy.com
and using those settings, one can give the hackers and scammers a good bit more challenge. I also recommend using a good VPN and strong passwords managed by a good password manager. I currently recommend ExpressVPN and 1password. Further, using Apple's encryption tool FileVault allows you
to encrypt all your disks both internal and external. Protecting one's privacy is a much bigger challenge than it was even five years ago, but the efforts, IMO, have a good ROI of your time.

JC


Re: General OS Upgrade Policy #Upgrading

 

On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:00 PM, ballyrick via Groups.Io wrote:

I would love some input from those more experienced and knowledgeable.
I created an entire Web site devoted to this topic:

Upgrading To The Very Latest Macintosh Operating System


___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

___________________________________________


Re: ! Update Required #Privacy

 

On Oct 29, 2019, at 7:02 AM, floridabouvs wrote:

So what else is good?
There are a lot of really good browsers out there now. I tend to really like:

Brave (free)

(Based on Chromium.)

Also very well regarded is:

WaterFox (free)

(Based on Mozilla, makers of FireFox.)

Have a look at this article about internet privacy and browsers:



I sometimes use Duck Duck Go when I don¡¯t want google to make my choice by how much advertisers pay them.
DuckDuckGo is indeed private. But I've found DuckDuckGo searches to be quite a bit inferior to Google searches.

Instead I recommend:

StartPage


StartPage strips out all of your identifying information, and then submits your search to Google. So you get all of the benefits of a Google search, with none of the spyware.

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

___________________________________________


Re: ! Update Required #Privacy

 

On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:03 PM, nztours via Groups.Io wrote:

My understanding is that Opera was is now owned by the Chinese. If so you might want to rethink using it for financial business.
Why? What is it that you think that "the Chiinese" are going to be doing with your financial information?

Have you once ever heard of anybody having any problems from using Opera?

___________________________________________
Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

___________________________________________


Re: Duplicate Calendar Holidays

 

My default is Weekly. Having a column per day is just right for me.

Otto

On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 23:04, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
We may be looking at different views.? I¡¯m looking at monthly -? I could probably do well to switch to daily if I¡¯m going to keep this up.


General OS Upgrade Policy #Upgrading

 

Whenever I bought a new car, I usually waited until the new or updated model is about a year old.
I've remained equally patient with MAC OS software, hoping by the time I update, the bugs have been weeded out.
Since I am a relative newbie to the world of technology, I have no idea whether what I'm doing is prudent or not.

But recently, I noticed that some members of both groups seem to be in no hurry to update.
As a matter of fact, a couple of contributors seem to be running one or two operating systems behind what is current.

I have Mojave and I'm waiting for a good time to install Catalina.
Please note, I use my MacBook Air for the basics, rarely more: e-mail, music, photos and just a few websites.?
Does the old adage apply? "If it ain`t broke don't try to fix it."

I would love some input from those more experienced and knowledgeable.


Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

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I agree with Bob Beckham. I am not annoyed. What one chooses to do on one¡¯s signature often has to do with one¡¯s profession. For instance, I put Ph.D. at the end of my signature and was accused of vanity or showing off. I did that because I am a translator and in my day there was no professional degree in translation so the Ph.D. was a way of indicating that I knew what I was talking about so that I would get the translation job. I actually like photos, it does make more of a connection.?
I envy the people whose lives are so perfect that they have time to complain about a signature!

Regards,

Joan

Bad officials are elected by good?citizens who do not vote. -George?Jean Nathan, author and editor (14?Feb 1882-1958)?


Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

Tim Meidroth wrote:
Excellent response from Jim Saklad in post 447.

Brent replied:
Tim, quoting a post number does not help. I assume you are on digest,?because finding a post by number in email is a pain. And it was Jim?Robertson.

Post #447 was my reply to Tiffany. I¡¯m Jim Saklad.

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...



Re: Duplicate Calendar Holidays

 

We may be looking at different views. I¡¯m looking at monthly - I could probably do well to switch to daily if I¡¯m going to keep this up.

Becky

On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

That's good, but in any case you can have multiple events at the same time or overlapping times, and the boxes just contract to fit.

Otto

On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:41, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
Ahhh! Thank you. I knew it was something easy I wasn¡¯t seeing.


Re: Duplicate Calendar Holidays

 

I assumed that Becky had duplicate events because?she had 2 Holidays calendars selected. Deselecting one would remove the duplicates.

Otto


On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 19:18, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:
Two questions, how does this remove duplicate Holidays, and could you post a photos, as I am missing something.


Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

On Oct 29, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I normally don't read by thread, and when I am on my iPad, I don't believe it is available in Mail.app
¡°Go to Settings > Mail, then turn on Organize by Thread.

To change how threads are displayed, you can also change other settings in Settings > Mail¡ªsuch as Collapse Read Messages or Most Recent Message on Top.¡±

Excerpt From
iPad User Guide for iPadOS 13.1
Apple Inc.

This material may be protected by copyright.

The same is true for iOS 12.

With that said, I normally prefer to not use that option. It¡¯s been a long time since I used it on my Mac, and on that OS it did strange things when I deleted messages.

--
Bev in TX


Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 01:03 PM, Brent wrote:
If you use the link to an image that you use for your groups profile, all it adds is the text of the link.?
1st... to quote text just select the text to quote and hit reply. This works on the web site as well as mail.app.

2nd. To use you group profile photo without it ending up like text you have to embed the html into the message. I havn¡¯t exactly figured that out because it appears to be difficult to do on the iPad. The tools provided by groups.io may not let you do it.


Re: Duplicate Calendar Holidays

 

Two questions, how does this remove duplicate Holidays, and could you post a photos, as I am missing something.


On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote:

That's good, but in any case you can have multiple events at the same time or overlapping times, and the boxes?just contract to fit.?

Otto

On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:41, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
Ahhh!? ?Thank you.? I knew it was something easy I wasn¡¯t seeing.



Re: Signature images #MacSupportCentral

 

477 was not a link in Tim's post and if you click on 478 in the links that is where you go, not to 477.


On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:01 AM, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io wrote:

You can tap the link and it takes you to the noted message.

Pat

Pro2

On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Hugh <hcrymble@...> wrote:

?I see it ?on my MacMail, no digests, on Sierra.

Just never noticed it before.

Wouldn¡¯t want to go looking for a post based on this number tho¡¯.

hugh


On Oct 29, 2019, at 12:42 PM, timmeidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:

jim, apparently not in every case...for instance, i see the post number when reading email such as this one...here's what i see at the bottom of each email i receive:
Links:You receive all messages sent to this group.View/Reply Online (#480) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic
Mute #macsupportcentral
...as you can see, it shows that your post is number 480 ... this might have to do with my old operating system, which is snow leopard on a 2010 imac.

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:24 AM Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc=[email protected]> wrote:
?Post numbers (¡°447¡±) are ONLY seen by folks reading the forum on the?website. (Hmmm. Maybe digests¡­)

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
<Jim logo-tiny.jpg>