Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
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Otto, I do not understand what you are saying. I have tried everything to get it back to that external drive. I was just trying to get rid of the backup from my old computer. I now I have new one. If I could return it back to the time machine on that old drive, my trash ?would then be empty, and I could use it to delete ?whatever needs to be deleted ?as I use my computer. ?Please try to explain ?what ? I should do
Jeannie?
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Not sure what you are trying to do: make room for a *new* backup by deleting an old one no longer required, or reinstate that old backup because you might still need it?
To reverse a previous deletion (send to Trash) you just repeat that (command-delete) on that folder now in Trash.
Please do NOT do something rash than cannot be reversed!? I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to? put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn’t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn’t work. If I can’t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.
Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?
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Re: Screenshots and jpgs
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On my old MacBookPro when I took a screenshot it would go to desktop.? On this machine it used to go to Dropbox and suddenly they now to clipboard. I have no idea how to access clipboard.
I used to be able to pull off a jpg from website to desktop.? Now it "acts" like I am doing that but there is no image on my desktop.? Where is it going? Doris? MacacBookPro 2018 Mojave 10.14.6
What keys are you using to create a screen shot? ?I just did cmd-shift-4 and selected the area I wanted and it saved to the desktop. If you do cmd-shift-4 and control then it goes to the clipboard. In Finder’s Edit menu you can “Show Clipboard” to see what’s there or you could just paste into a document.
Dave?
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 1:42 PM, Julian Thomas < jt@...> wrote:
Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation! On Oct 25, 2019, at 17:24, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I would feel insecure with a $70 UPS. I guess our posts passed on the internet, because I just posted about laser printers causing surges. The momentary outage is not the problem, it is the surge that does the damage.
Don't even think of putting a laser printer [or any other device with a large motor] ?on a consumer grade UPS.
Or, for that matter, on any UPS. If your power goes out you will not print the page it is then printing, so you might lose one sheet of paper and a half a page of toner. A UPS is designed such that you can shut down properly and not damage anything, so all you really should put on it is your computer, monitor (if separate, so you can see it to shut down) and any external drives.?
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:38 PM, David Myers via Groups.Io < myavid76@...> wrote:
I have a 2011 iMac 21.5 in. running 10.13.6. It has been running a bit hot lately, so I need to take it apart to clean it out. I also need to clean the screen on the inside because of a large clouded area. I have decided to replace the hard drive with a SSD drive when its apart. I have 2 questions. What format to use on the new drive? And how to get the iMac to boot up to my clone backup when I first start it up? I found some conflicting answers on a few web searches and just want to be sure.??
First of all, be sure you know how to take it apart and put it back together. Second, decide for yourself if it is worth it to do that with a 2011 machine. Regarding the new hard drive, if it is an SSD then you very much want APFS. To boot from the clone, if you wait long enough, when it cannot find a bootable internal drive, it will boot from a drive it does find. However, you can speed that up by holding down the option key when you boot. It will give you a list, left-to-right, of bootable volumes. Scroll over there with the arrow keys (I don’t know if a mouse will work here) and select the one you want (In your case maybe only the clone) and hit return.?
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Screenshots and jpgs
#Mac
On my old MacBookPro when I took a screenshot it would go to desktop.? On this machine it used to go to Dropbox and suddenly they now to clipboard. I have no idea how to access clipboard.
I used to be able to pull off a jpg from website to desktop.? Now it "acts" like I am doing that but there is no image on my desktop.? Where is it going? Doris? MacacBookPro 2018 Mojave 10.14.6
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Re: Shut Down/Restart Problem
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote: I shut down my MacBook Pro with the key combo
Control-Option-Command-Eject
Does that work with an iMac (if you don't have an Eject key, use the Power button instead)? I just used Control-Option-Command-F12 (marked as also being the eject key on my Matias keyboard) and my Mac did an orderly shutdown! ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance ___________________________________________
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
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Not sure what you are trying to do: make room for a *new* backup by deleting an old one no longer required, or reinstate that old backup because you might still need it?
To reverse a previous deletion (send to Trash) you just repeat that (command-delete) on that folder now in Trash.
Please do NOT do something rash than cannot be reversed!?
I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to? put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn’t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn’t work. If I can’t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.
Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?
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On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 at 22:21, Dave Kelly via Groups.Io <drkelly= [email protected]> wrote: Or add the hashtag #ADMIN anywhere in the subject line.
Yes, as we now have those.
Otto
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Re: Shut Down/Restart Problem
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FWIW, my practice (on a laptop) has been to log out (Shift-Command-q?or Option-Shift-Command-q), then click on the Shutdown or Restart?buttonon the screen.
Why the extra step? Long ago, I set mine so that if it shuts down or sleeps,?I had to login.
Old habit. I think I am going to change the habit now.
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Yes I can boot from my Super Duper clone.
I am getting a kit and drive from OWC.
Will pressing the <Option> key work after I install the new drive?
<Option> shows you bootable drives (because its purpose is to let you boot from a different drive than the one designated in System Preferences, and there would be no merit in showing you non-bootable drives).
Initially, before cloning the clone backup back to the new SSD, <Option> wil NOT show you the SSD. Once it has a working OS on it, it will.
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Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn’t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn’t work. If I can’t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.
Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?
Jeannie?
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Re: Shut Down/Restart Problem
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 4:26 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc@...> wrote:
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I upgraded to Catalina and everything worked fine except when trying to back to external using CCC. Got message that HD was not partitioned correctly.
I have given up on backing my computer. I have iPad which I use more.
Bob
The latest update of SuperDuper cloning software (and probably CCC also) – for Catalina – needs the destination volume to be APFS. Mine was HFS+. SD notified me of that.
Since I was uncertain about converting 1 partition to APFS on a drive that was otherwise set up as HFS+ (and Time Machine still requires HFS+), I stopped and began to research the subject.
I ended up erasing the destination partition, and let SD do its thing. It successfully converted the one partition to APSF, but the resultant clone had a problem (maybe my fault, maybe not), and I ended up erasing and re-cloning.
At that point I had a bootable APFS Catalina clone in the layout (2 volumes) that Apple and SD both wanted. Mine are APFS Bob
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Re: Shut Down/Restart Problem
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I upgraded to Catalina and everything worked fine except when trying to?back to external using CCC. ?Got message that HD was not partitioned?correctly.
I have given up on backing my computer. ?I have iPad which I use more.
Bob
The latest update of SuperDuper cloning software (and probably CCC also) – for Catalina – needs the destination volume to be APFS. Mine was HFS+. SD notified me of that.?
Since I was uncertain about converting 1 partition to APFS on a drive that was otherwise set up as HFS+ (and Time Machine still requires HFS+), I stopped and began to research the subject. I ended up erasing the destination partition, and let SD do its thing. It successfully converted the one partition to APSF, but the resultant clone had a problem (maybe my fault, maybe not), and I ended up erasing and re-cloning. At that point I had a bootable APFS Catalina clone in the layout (2 volumes) that Apple and SD both wanted.
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? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jim Saklad wrote:
Have you ever booted from the clone backup before?
Better make sure you have no problem doing that.
Restart your machine, and as soon as the “bong” occurs, press and hold the <Option> key until the screen comes up showing all the available bootable drives. Select the clone drive and press <Return>
It should boot from the clone.
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At this point, I would set up the SSD for APFS whether the system requires it or not
Yes I can boot from my Super Duper clone.
I am getting a kit and drive from OWC.
Will pressing the <Option> key work after I install the new drive?
I presume your plan is to clone the clone back to the SSD
Yes.
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Note that when moderators post important messages about the group as a whole, they should have [Admin] or [ADMIN] at the start of the subject line.?
Or add the hashtag #ADMIN anywhere in the subject line.
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Not what I said and why would you? You want the laser printer or large motor, outside the USP, preferably on a different circuit.
Brent,
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Julian Thomas <jt@...> wrote:
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On Oct 25, 2019, at 17:24, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I would feel insecure with a $70 UPS. I guess our posts passed on the internet, because I just posted about laser printers causing surges. The momentary outage is not the problem, it is the surge that does the damage. Don't even think of putting a laser printer [or any other device with a large motor] on a consumer grade UPS.
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David Myers wrote: I have a 2011 iMac 21.5 in. running 10.13.6. It has been running a bit hot?lately, so I need to take it apart to clean it out. I also need to clean the?screen on the inside because of a large clouded area. I have decided to?replace the hard drive with a SSD drive when its apart. I have 2 questions.?What format to use on the new drive? And how to get the iMac to boot up?to my clone backup when I first start it up? I found some conflicting?answers on a few web searches and just want to be sure.??
Your machine appears (Mactracker) to have a 3.5” form factor hard drive; SSD’s come in laptop-size, 2” form factor, so it will need an adaptor to fit properly.? See iFixit: ?<>
Have you ever booted from the clone backup before? Better make sure you have no problem doing that. Restart your machine, and as soon as the “bong” occurs, press and hold the <Option> key until the screen comes up showing all the available bootable drives. Select the clone drive and press <Return> It should boot from the clone.
At this point, I would set up the SSD for APFS whether the system requires it or not
I presume your plan is to clone the clone back to the SSD
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Re: Shut Down/Restart Problem
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Why the extra step? Long ago, I set mine so that if it shuts down or sleeps, I had to login.
At home the time to sleep is longer, at work it was very short, thanks to my very juvenile co-workers.? ,?
Brent
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io < jimdoc@...> wrote: FWIW, my practice (on a laptop) has been to log out (Shift-Command-q or Option-Shift-Command-q), then click on the Shutdown or Restart buttonon the screen.
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Re: Shut Down/Restart Problem
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
?Howdy.
Start over. Thanks for your response. Currently when using disk utility I see two volumes, one that is labeled data, the other I assume is system. Frankly I am afraid to start over as computer is working fine as long as I umount that new volume. Will live without backup. I am no longer working and creating new files etc on computer. Main concern is losing 8000 photos, but these are in photos on iCloud. Earlier you mentioned about scheme, I see nothing that relates to that. Bob
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Re: Shut Down/Restart Problem
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Howdy. Start over. Assuming you have a backup on a different physical drive of your documents, photos, music, data, etc., then just start over with a fresh OS X system. 1. Dismount then shut off/unplug external drive. 2. Boot into Recovery partition. You should be connected to Internet for these next steps. Restart and at chime press Command r. The Recovery partition is a small invisible partition containing a basic system and utilities like Disk Utility. 3. In Recovery, pick Disk Utility. Then click the View Icon and select Show All Devices. 4. Select the drive, Not the Container and not the other volumes like SSD or and not Data. 5. Click Erase Icon. Give it a name and click the Erase button at bottom right. It should work rapidly When done click First Aid icon and do the First Aid just as a test check. 6. Then select Disk Utility Menu and pick Quit Disk Utility 7. In macOS Utilities that should appear, click Reinstall macOS and follow the prompts and steps. This process could take some time. Patience. It can depend on your internet and computer speed. This part of the process should create the two volumes: one for system and one for Data. After it finishes, you may need to choose the install macOS Catalina menu and then Quit. I'm not sure if it quits it for you or not. 8. Back in macOS Utilities dialog box, Choose macOS Utilities menu and pick Quit macOS Utilities. 9. Choose your boot/startup drive. "Are you sure . . . . click Restart blue button. Mac should boot into the new clean system. 10. Reconnect back up drive and move Data back to boot drive. You may need to do this manually by drag n drop. 11. After moving data, use Disk Utility (the regular one not in Recovery) and erase the external drive. Test it with a First Aid run, perhaps several times since there have been so many problems. 12. If this works . . . . . . !!! create a new fresh backup from scratch. Denver Dan On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 13:55:20 -0500, robert morin wrote: Catalina changes the boot volume. The Catalina installer creates two
volumes from you previous boot drive. These two volumes are linked so
in many parts of Finder they appear as a single drive and single icon.
In Disk Utility you can see both volumes.
Do you have a good idea of what a volume is? Of what a partition is??
You should be using CCC ver. 5. On my Mac, CCC shows as version
5. I sawthe two new volumes on disk utility after installing Catalina.
I used disk utility to partition the HD and got a new volume which
showed on monitor. It is that volume that I now unmount routinely in
rebooting in morning and all works well.
I have the same update of CCC
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