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Hmmm, I see none, and where the list would be I see the message below:
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Mine is set to: "Only group owners & moderators.", which I believe is the default.
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Re: My unhappy MacBook Pro
On Nov 2, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Brent via Groups.Io < whodo678@...> wrote:
Jim R, first Apple does not charge for diagnosis work. Second, they will quote you a flat rate charge for out of warranty work, if they currently stock the part. I think for my early 2008 MBP about 3 years out of warranty, it was somewhere between $350 to $600 flat rate. It is up to you before you release the device to them to determine if the needed part and device are worth it to you for that rate. If they discover another issue, I believe they will also cover that for the one charge at the same time.
No need to exaggerate.
I mentioned my reservations contacting Apple¡¯s telephone support regarding the keyboard on my 2016 Touch Bar MacBook Pro because my experience after bringing my laptop to the Genius Bar at my local Apple Retail Store (when local wasn¡¯t 167 miles away was exactly what I described.
My stepson worked at an auto parts store while he was in architectural graduate school. The Windows keyboards there were filthy, and periodically individual keys would stop working. They would disconnect the keyboards from power, make sure they were grounded, then very carefully mask off problematic regions of the keyboard and scrub them with a water miscible but non electrolytic solvent. In most cases that resuscitated the keyboards.
I spilled a small amount of soft drink on the o,p,[,] area of my laptop¡¯s keyboard more than 2 years ago, and quite quickly those keys began to malfuntion. My stepson had me procure a bottle of the solvent, and in 20-30 minutes my keyboard worked well again.
In the time since then, the comma and period keys have become problematic twice. After Apple announced the four year coverage for the butterfly keyboard program, I took my laptop to the Apple Retail store, admitted there had been a liquid spill, but pointed out that the misbehaving keys now were nowhere near where the liquid spill had caused issues previously. The Genius was able to make the period key work somewhat better, but unable to eliminate its intermittency altogether. When I asked about the newly announced program, he stated that he didn¡¯t think my keyboard would qualify, but that I could arrange for shipping to an Apple corporate repair center (interestingly, he told me it might end up at an Apple-authorized 3rd party center. He warned me that even if there was no evidence of liquid intrusion at the location of the now recalcitrant keys, that evidence from the keys at the upper right almost certainly would disqualify it for coverage, in whch case I¡¯d be charged a diagnostic fee. I¡¯d also be offered the chance to pay a replacement part fee of $1500 for the entire top of the case (including the Touch Bar, Touch ID key, keyboard, speakers, and whatever else is attached to the underside of the top case.
I¡¯ll admit I did not verify that by calling Apple corporate support, so perhaps I was exaggerating, but that¡¯s what a Genius at my local Apple Retail Store told me without equivocation. I contended that I was complaining about an issue known to Apple, an issue so common and problematic that Apple was extending the duration during which they would make that extensive replacement repair to four years, and I was contending that it seemed unlikely that my current issue seemed to me and the tech at the retail store unrelated to the liquid spill. That policy could be rephrased as ¡°if your computer needs component A1 replaced because of a manufacturing defect, but in order to do that we must replace the entire A assembly, and your computer has a user problem with component A3 the warranty repair is unavailable to you.
Based on your assertion, I will call Apple Corporate repair and see what they tell me.
Jim Robertson
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Re: How to restore from Time Machine?
On Nov 2, 2019, at 4:58 PM, Beadnik <beadnik2@...> wrote:
Somehow my entire Applications folder was missing, as well as some plug ins for Photoshop. I found them all in a Time Machine backup. Should I just drag them into the appropriate place or is there a better method to install them. Did you look in the Trash for them? If you accidentally deleted them, you can ¡°put them back¡±. -- Bev in TX
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Re: How to restore from Time Machine?
Howdy. First some information. I'm adding extra info because I sense you may be new to the Macintosh? If I'm wrong, forgive me. There can be at least 2 Application folders and more. In the same way there are at least 3 Library folders. This is due to the multi-user nature of Unix and the secure nature of a user account. Are you sure the Applications folder in your Time Machine is the main one and not the often unused Applications folder found in your Home User Account? Time Machine has two main parts. 1. Time Machine panel in System Preferences. This is to configure Time Machine. 2. Time Machine.app found in your Applications folder. This is used to restore things. It's like a Wayback machine. The great trick to using Time Machine.app to restore is the FIRST, if you can, select the drive or folder with the item to be restored. Then launch Time Machine.app and it should go right to that backed up item. But without a TM app you can't do this. If Time Machine.app is missing along with the entire Applications folder you are out of luck. It is possible to drag items from a TM backup to the original location. With the entire Applications folder???? Lots of possible issues. I suggest booting from a USB bootable/installer flash drive and try to restore the Applications folder. Tip: When each major macOS X upgrade comes out I buy an 8 GB (16 for Catalina) Flash Drive and use Terminal to turn it into a macOS X bootable flash drive and system installer. When you have an emergency, as you do, you can boot the Mac from the flash drive and use the various utilities, installers, etc. If I had deleted my Applications folder, I'd wipe the boot drive and do a clean system install using the Recovery partition. If the Time Machine backup is on an external drive as it hopefully is, you could then use the newly installed Time Machine.app to restore some things. Denver Dan On Sat, 02 Nov 2019 14:58:33 -0700, Beadnik wrote: Somehow my entire Applications folder was missing, as well as some
plug ins for Photoshop. I found them all in a Time Machine backup.
Should I just drag them into the appropriate place or is there a
better method to install them.
Thanks.
JB
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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The flag or the other icon, is an indication of the settings chosen in the Keyboard Prefs, at lease in older OS.
Brent
On Nov 2, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote: That would be after 10.13. I don't see the value in the new icon, whereas?the old one told you at a glance which keyboard you have selected (right way up or not ;) ).?
Otto Howdy.
Otto, here's the tiny Input Menu current icon.? ?The square.? ?I don't
recall when the icon changed.
One can still open the Keyboard panel in Sys Prefs, click the Input
Sources tab, click the + sign and add all kinds of different language
keyboards.? ?One can even add an Australian English keyboard but oddly
it shows right side up.
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Dan, Jim S posted an image of the US flag and he is on 10.15.1. I am running 10.7.5, currently as stated, and can change between the two icons, by making a change in Sys Prefs/ Keyboard/ Keyboard (tab).
Brent
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On Nov 2, 2019, at 2:29 PM, Daniel Settles wrote: Howdy.
Brent, I did attach the Input menu icon from Catalina. It didn't make
it through. Not sure why it didn't.
In your smaller screen capture, the US flag is the Input menu from an
older OS X. The flag is for the selected or language keyboard. For
example, if you were running a French OS X it would be a French
Tricolor. You can have multiple language keyboards and just pick them
to switch between them.
In your larger Input menu icon screen cap, I think that is the icon
from the OS X Mojave or High Sierra. It has the little star in it.
The OS X Catalina input menu icon is the same as Mojave but without the
little star.
I'll try the attachment again.
Denver Dan
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 14:06:28 -0700, Brent via Groups.Io wrote:
Sound like different versions are being spoken about, but I can see
different icons, depending upon the settings in Sys Prefs. The first
is with Show Keyboard & Character Viewers in menu bar is not
selected. The second is with it selected, and both viewers displayed.
Dan, is this the icon of four boxes you described? If not please post
an image. The icon to the left of the charged battery.
Of, btw, this is OS X 10.7.5
Brent
On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Daniel Settles wrote:
Emoji & Symbols on the Input menu shows font variations and font
names. But you will need to expand the window. Click the Input menu
icon at top right inside the Emoji & Symbols window (to right of the
Search box).
<Catalina Input Menu screen cap.png>
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Hmmm, I see none, and where the list would be I see the message below:
This member directory is only visible to members of your group. In order to view the member directory, you must change your?profile privacy setting?to either Other Members of Your Group, or to Public.
Mine is set to: "Only group owners & moderators.", which I believe is the default.
Brent
On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:45 PM, timmeidroth wrote: i notice there are 276 members but only 14 (including me) showing in the group directory...i wish every member was in it...what determines whether members are in the directory??
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Re: it¡¯s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
Or you can do it the cheap way, without third party apps. View the HD is?hierarchical view and sort by size.
On Nov 2, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote: On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 16:16, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc= [email protected]> wrote:
Is that a bootable backup? Do you have ANY external volume that is bootable? If you do, you could boot from the external and clone your internal to an external volume before wiping it and doing a re-install.
Yes, boot from a backup. Then install Grand Perspectve or Whatsize to see what's going on.
Otto
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Re: My unhappy MacBook Pro
Jim R, first Apple does not charge for diagnosis work. Second, they will quote you a flat rate charge for out of warranty work, if they currently stock the part. I think for my early 2008 MBP about 3 years out of warranty, it was somewhere between $350 to $600 flat rate. It is up to you before you release the device to them to determine if the needed part and device are worth it to you for that rate. If they discover another issue, I believe they will also cover that for the one charge at the same time.
No need to exaggerate.
Brent
On Nov 1, 2019, at 1:36 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote: I¡¯m of a mind to call Apple telephone support and describe my tale of woe about the keyboard, but I fear they¡¯ll agree to examine the computer, send me a box, then contact me in a few days and tell me they¡¯ve levied a charge of a few hundred dollars to diagnose the issue, that they blame the recalcitrant ¡°period¡± key¡¯s sluggishness on the liquid spill, and need to charge me another $1500 for repairs.
Jim
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Re: My unhappy MacBook Pro
Jim R, how do your long winded stories about your former possessions advance the story??
When utilities apps can't find the issue, that can simply be explained by a hardware issue. Have you heard of occam's razor? The simplest answer is often the correct one. Sometimes explaining things in a different way, make the answer click in others minds.
As to your MBP restarting, you didn't mentions that in the long, wandering first post. OK, we forget sometimes, but you lose us in your long, unfocused, wandering, posts. Oh and I wander in my posts, sometimes, but usually when the topic is about opinions, like how Apple serves its customers.
Does that answer your question Jim Showalter?
Brent
On Nov 1, 2019, at 7:58 PM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote: On Nov 1, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Brent via Groups.Io < whodo678@...> wrote:
We are sorry you lost a lot of stuff in the fire, but let it go.
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How does that advance any discussion?
I did point out that I once had 3 cases that securely hold a laptop Mac well cushioned and now have only one, but the point of that wasn¡¯t to wail about things that happened two years ago but just to say that I don¡¯t think that the genesis of this repetitive rebooting a few days ago could be blamed on my laptop bag(s).
Your other comment (no, not the one about leeches and poisonous therapy in medicine, but rather the one that says maybe I should just be happy the MacBook Pro has stopped rebooting and go back to using it) is more on point, but of course another (generally considered valuable) voice has suggested that perhaps it¡¯s time to say goodbye to this machine because of its sketchy performance.
I¡¯ll try to keep my own contributions less embellished and more on point.
Jim Robertson
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Re: it¡¯s like a horror movie: my system files have eaten up my boot drive!
On Nov 2, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Tom_Kirshbaum wrote: I ran OnyX a few days ago; now it is freezing and crashing. You can clear the logs manually using the Terminal: ? Open Terminal, located in the Macintosh HD --> Applications --> Utilities folder. ? At the Terminal prompt, type the following, exactly as written: sudo periodic daily weekly monthly ? Press Return. ? Type your password when prompted, then press Return ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance ___________________________________________
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The members are shown in Pages that is a few at a time and you have to select the next page of the list in order to see more. Is that what¡¯s happening to you?
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On Nov 2, 2019, at 1:45 PM, timmeidroth <timmeidroth@...> wrote:
i notice there are 276 members but only 14 (including me) showing in the group directory...i wish every member was in it...what determines whether members are in the directory?
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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It also came through to me using Apple mail.
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On Nov 2, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
? Strange. The attachment came through to me. I use Gmail if that's relevant.
Otto Howdy.
Brent, I did attach the Input menu icon from Catalina.? It didn't make
it through.? Not sure why it didn't.
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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Strange. The attachment came through to me. I use Gmail if that's relevant.
Otto
Howdy.
Brent, I did attach the Input menu icon from Catalina.? It didn't make
it through.? Not sure why it didn't.
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How to restore from Time Machine?
Somehow my entire Applications folder was missing, as well as some plug ins for Photoshop. I found them all in a Time Machine backup. Should I just drag them into the appropriate place or is there a better method to install them.
Thanks.
JB
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
#Resolved
That would be after 10.13. I don't see the value in the new icon, whereas?the old one told you at a glance which keyboard you have selected (right way up or not ;) ).?
Otto
Howdy.
Otto, here's the tiny Input Menu current icon.? ?The square.? ?I don't
recall when the icon changed.
One can still open the Keyboard panel in Sys Prefs, click the Input
Sources tab, click the + sign and add all kinds of different language
keyboards.? ?One can even add an Australian English keyboard but oddly
it shows right side up.
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Howdy. Rick, folks will try to help but it helps them to provide some information. Which model iMac? How much free drive space? How much RAM? What did your Wyfe do to prepare, do maintenance, on her iMac for Catalina? -Delete old cache files? -Boot in Safe Disk Mode? -Boot in Recovery and run First Aid on boot drive?? What is the difficulty in downloading? Can you be specific? Download quits before finishing? Slow?? Denver Dan On Sat, 02 Nov 2019 08:38:24 -0700, ballyrick via Groups.Io wrote: I'm running Mohave; my wife has installed Catalina on her iMac.
It seems her older Microsoft applications for Word, Excel,
PowerPoint, etc are now obsolete
on Catalina. And I see a notice on Mohave that once I update, the
same will be true.
Apparently the App Store has updated Microsoft applications for
Catalina but so far my
wife has had great difficulty downloading them.
Would someone guide me through a seamless process to install?
Any advice would truly be appreciated.
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Apple TV+ is an app. ?Here¡¯s some info:
You can watch Apple?TV+ shows and movies on the Apple?TV app. The Apple?TV app is already on Apple devices. But if you¡¯ve removed it, you can download it again from the?. You can also watch Apple?TV+ in Safari, Firefox, and Chrome web browsers at?. You can even watch on Samsung Smart TVs, Roku streaming players, and Amazon Fire TV devices, if they support the Apple?TV app. Visit??for more information.
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On Nov 2, 2019, at 3:00 PM, Sew Walker <sewnyes@...> wrote:
? i have an old Apple TV, how do I update it to the new free verizon?? I thought I had to buy a new version . Do i purchase the new apple TV or update mine?
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 4:30 PM Pat Taylor via Groups.Io <pat412= [email protected]> wrote: You do have ¡°access¡± to those and any other services to which you subscribe or content you purchase from iTunes.? I enjoy the fact that the Apple TV app keeps track of where I am (which episode is up next) on a variety of things that I watch.? Previous to this app, it was necessary to go to individual apps to watch the content offered by each.
Pat Pro On Nov 2, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Joe Masters <joe@...> wrote:
?OK, not Apple¡¯s fault. I knew I¡¯d seen it somewhere and I quote:-
What else can I watch on Apple TV+?As well as its own original series, the Apple TV app gives you access to UK streaming services including BBC iPlayer, All4 and ITV Hub, plus a dedicated kids¡¯ section and, according to Apple, ¡°thousands of films, including the latest blockbusters from iTunes.
I thought it was too good to be true.
On 2 Nov 2019, at 19:48, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io < pat412@...> wrote:
Your description is exactly what Apple TV+ offers for free; their own original programming.? I¡¯ve never read anything to the contrary from Apple or any other source.
Pat Pro On Nov 2, 2019, at 1:23 PM, Joe Masters <joe@...> wrote:
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Thanks, Pat. I¡¯ve got it set up now. I did watch something on my Apple TV (on the big TV), and I noticed there are a lot of commercials in the Apple TV programs. But then, it¡¯s free for a year. Carol
Once the service is activated on your new device, it is automatically available on your others.? I set mine up on my new phone yesterday and then watched one of the new shows on my iPad.? It¡¯s also available for free on my Apple TV.
Pat
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
#Resolved
Howdy.
Brent, I did attach the Input menu icon from Catalina. It didn't make
it through. Not sure why it didn't.
In your smaller screen capture, the US flag is the Input menu from an
older OS X. The flag is for the selected or language keyboard. For
example, if you were running a French OS X it would be a French
Tricolor. You can have multiple language keyboards and just pick them
to switch between them.
In your larger Input menu icon screen cap, I think that is the icon
from the OS X Mojave or High Sierra. It has the little star in it.
The OS X Catalina input menu icon is the same as Mojave but without the
little star.
I'll try the attachment again.
Denver Dan
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On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 14:06:28 -0700, Brent via Groups.Io wrote: Sound like different versions are being spoken about, but I can see
different icons, depending upon the settings in Sys Prefs. The first
is with Show Keyboard & Character Viewers in menu bar is not
selected. The second is with it selected, and both viewers displayed.
Dan, is this the icon of four boxes you described? If not please post
an image. The icon to the left of the charged battery.
Of, btw, this is OS X 10.7.5
Brent
On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Daniel Settles wrote:
Emoji & Symbols on the Input menu shows font variations and font
names. But you will need to expand the window. Click the Input menu
icon at top right inside the Emoji & Symbols window (to right of the
Search box).
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
#Resolved
Sound like different versions are being spoken about, but I can see different icons, depending upon the settings in Sys Prefs. The first is with Show Keyboard & Character Viewers in menu bar is not selected. The second is with it selected, and both viewers displayed.
Dan, is this the icon of four boxes you described? If not please post an image. The icon to the left of the charged battery.
Of, btw, this is OS X 10.7.5
Brent
On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Daniel Settles wrote: Emoji & Symbols on the Input menu shows font variations and font?
names. ?But you will need to expand the window. ?Click the Input menu?
icon at top right inside the Emoji & Symbols window (to right of the?
Search box).
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Brent
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