On Oct 27, 2019, at 11:34 PM, Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote:
On Oct 27, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Daniel Settles wrote:
Testing an Attachment
Yes, I've noticed that allows attachments! ?That's very cool, but I hope that folks don't get carried away with this ability. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance ___________________________________________
If it does get out of hand that feature will get disabled.
By the way, when our ?memory allocation runs out it deletes oldest first so at some point the older attachments ?will automatically start getting deleted to free up space.
Dave
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Daniel Settles wrote:
Testing an Attachment
Yes, I've noticed that groups.io allows attachments! That's very cool, but I hope that folks don't get carried away with this ability. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance ___________________________________________
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Re: [macsupport] Odd behavior
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:50 AM, Guy gwkuddles@... [macsupportcentral] wrote: What causes this sluggishness, and how do I teach this Mac to get over it? Open Activity Monitor (in the Utilities folder) during the slowdown period. Click on the "%CPU" header, and then click on the triangle in the %CPU header so that things are ordered in that column from largest to least. See if anything is running that is using an inordinate amount of CPU time. If something has a really high number, this is likely to be what is causing your slowdown. Also, quit or uninstall all of your cloud applications, especially Drop Box, and see if things are better. That type of application is constantly syncing things and it draws a lot of CPU time. ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance ___________________________________________
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
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That is a pretty broad statement, especially since no one includes their hardware and software specs anymore. I think I have posted mine several times in the last week or so.?
Also many things have not changed. And I am a try the easiest solution first and Keep It Simple, Sam, kinda guy.
Brent
On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:00 PM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote: I'm sorry, Brent, but comments based on an 8-year old OS are not likely to be relevant unless the OP specifically says that's what they are running. ;) Otto On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 00:35, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678= [email protected]> wrote: I'm still on way back 10.7.5, and it is not there.
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[macsupport] Odd behavior
#Mac
I don't mean to be rude, just encouraging a member from the old list to move over.
Guy, good job of describing the problem, but I believe you have had this problem for a while, and I don't remember you explaining what you have tried.
First, older Macs slow for several reasons. The hardest to resolve is the detritus that accumulates over time. RAM sometimes begin to fail. Each time you start up the RAM is tested. I would use a third party app to check yours. How much RAM do you have? The more you have to longer it takes. Also the more Startup Items you have slow down your Mac.
I have a early 2008 MBP maxed out at 4 GB, running 10.7.5, and it seems like it takes 10 minutes to start up. I have an exceptionally slow internet connections, and it takes minutes to open Mail and then a browser. Your Mac is newer, so should be faster than mine.?
I would suggest that you look up Randy Singer's web site and check out his suggestions for slow Macs.
Brent
Subject: [macsupport] Odd behavior
Date: October 27, 2019 4:50:09 AM PDT
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2013 MacBook Pro
OSX 10.14.6
I shut off this Mac every evening well ahead of my bedtime, so that it will get a fresh boot each morning. I usually tun it back on at around 4:00am. I have it set to automatically start Safari and Mail. Turn it on, walk away, get a cup of coffee, come back, and it’s ready to go. Or is it?
For the first 15 minutes of the day, the Mac is mind-bogglingly sluggish. An attempt to open and read an email can result in a 10 minute wait for it to open. After it “warms up” (about 15 minutes), it works flawlessly for the rest of the day. If I turn it off, I can turn it back on (say, in the afternoon), and everything is the usual lickety-split. This sluggishness only occurs in the pre-dawn hours..
What causes this sluggishness, and how do I teach this Mac to get over it?
Thanks!
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Thurston, OR
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
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I'm sorry, Brent, but comments based on an 8-year old OS are not likely to be relevant unless the OP specifically says that's what they are running. ;) Otto
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 at 00:35, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678= [email protected]> wrote: I'm still on way back 10.7.5, and it is not there.
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 7:24 PM, Budd Turner via Groups.Io < n7eoj@...> wrote:
This afternoon, we had a power outage for ~1/2 hour.
With power back on, I turned on the iMac.? Now it is searching for a Bluetooth keyboard. I have a wired Apple Extended keyboard connected, but unplugging/replugging did no good.? I
That happened to me a couple of times. Here was my reason. Of course no idea if this is what your reason is. ?My USB keyboard was plugged into a powered hub. I have two cables plugged into my UPS One goes to my computer and the other to a switch that controls all my peripherals. I had neglected to throw that switch and so the hub into which my keyboard was plugged was not working. Is your keyboard plugged directly in, or into a hub? If into a hub then maybe the hub is faulty or simply, as in my case, not powered on. remembered the ZAGG BT keyboard for my iPad.? Once they connected I can??type through it to and?log in.?
But I am unable to find a way in preferences to re-enable the .wired keyboard.
If I disable the ZAGG, the iMac goes back into searching mode.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Change Keyboard Type: No choices.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Modifier Keys - Select Keyboard: No choices.
Suggestions?
Late 2009 iMac 10,1
8GB RAM
500 GB SSD
MacOS 10.13.6 with latest updates, last night.
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- try a different port. - try a mouse without a keypad. - try a different keyboard. - unplug all peripherals, and restart -try restarting with the kb plugged in and the shift key down
in that order
On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Budd Turner via Groups.Io wrote: This afternoon, we had a power outage for ~1/2 hour.
With power back on, I turned on the iMac.? Now it is searching for a Bluetooth keyboard. I have a wired Apple Extended keyboard connected, but unplugging/replugging did no good.? I remembered the ZAGG BT keyboard for my iPad.? Once they connected I can??type through it to and?log in.?
But I am unable to find a way in preferences to re-enable the .wired keyboard.
If I disable the ZAGG, the iMac goes back into searching mode.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Change Keyboard Type: No choices.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Modifier Keys - Select Keyboard: No choices.
Suggestions?
Late 2009 iMac 10,1
8GB RAM
500 GB SSD
MacOS 10.13.6 with latest updates, last night.
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
I'm still on way back 10.7.5, and it is not there.
On Oct 27, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Barry Austern via Groups.Io wrote: On Oct 27, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Brent via Groups.Io < whodo678@...> wrote:
Sometimes, just a restart and then Empty Trash works, but Safe Mode should do it.
No, there is no pref in Finder that I am aware of to remove after 30 days. I think you are confusing it with Mail.app, and you have to select that options.
I’m still in 10.13.6, but it is there. Under Finder Preferences > advanced. A checkbox. Seems that 30 days is the only choice, though. Either that duration or nothing. Maybe a terminal command can change that?
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Howdy. Hopefully you have a UPS battery box. Try the basic maintenance procedures. 1. Zap PRAM. 2. Reset SMC. 3. Safe Disk Boot. 4. Boot in Recovery mode and run Disk First Aid. 5. Use a utility like OnyX to delete cache files. Denver Dan On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 16:24:33 -0700, Budd Turner via Groups.Io wrote: This afternoon, we had a power outage for ~1/2 hour.
With power back on, I turned on the iMac. Now it is searching for a
Bluetooth keyboard. I have a wired Apple Extended keyboard connected,
but unplugging/replugging did no good. I remembered the ZAGG BT
keyboard for my iPad. Once they connected I can type through it to
and log in.
But I am unable to find a way in preferences to re-enable the .wired
keyboard.
If I disable the ZAGG, the iMac goes back into searching mode.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Change Keyboard Type: No
choices.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Modifier Keys - Select
Keyboard: No choices.
Suggestions?
Late 2009 iMac 10,1
8GB RAM
500 GB SSD
MacOS 10.13.6 with latest updates, last night.
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This afternoon, we had a power outage for ~1/2 hour.
With power back on, I turned on the iMac.? Now it is searching for a Bluetooth keyboard. I have a wired Apple Extended keyboard connected, but unplugging/replugging did no good.? I remembered the ZAGG BT keyboard for my iPad.? Once they connected I can??type through it to and?log in.?
But I am unable to find a way in preferences to re-enable the .wired keyboard.
If I disable the ZAGG, the iMac goes back into searching mode.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Change Keyboard Type: No choices.
If I go into System Preferences - Keyboard - Modifier Keys - Select Keyboard: No choices.
Suggestions?
Late 2009 iMac 10,1
8GB RAM
500 GB SSD
MacOS 10.13.6 with latest updates, last night.
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
I was not looking to free space as that backup drive s three TB. I was just thinking to get rid of the back up from my old computer,as I now have a new one. Right now my iMac has been chugging along for over 24 hours trying to delete what is in the trash,and I am staying off the computer?
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io < otto.nikolaus@...> wrote: If it's to free space, it uses the same whether it's in the Trash or where it was originally.?
I was going to suggest a Unix (Terminal) command, but I suspect that is what 'Trash It' uses.
If you want to try it anyway, be very careful in getting it right. Start up Applications > Utilities > Terminal and copy-paste this rm -rf ~/.Trash/?
then press enter.? If you get a permissions failure, try sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/
which?will prompt you for your password.?
It will not be instant?as there must be a huge number of files in there, so be patient.?
There *is* an option for Trash to empty automatically, but you need to select?it in Finder > Preferences > Advanced. That could be long wait, though. ;)
BTW how much free space do you have?
Otto It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under 400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn’t work, I trued going in to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it for whatever.?
I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30 day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro, But it is done, and now I have to try a way to ?either get rid of it, or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets full.?
I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to do that.? I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to try it again.?
If I can’t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see what they can do
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
That was not an option unfortunately?
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 12:30 PM, rmpbklyn < rmaniacnyc@...> wrote: what happens when you right click on the item and select PUT BACK in finder? On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 04:16 PM, Jeannie Girard wrote:
I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn’t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn’t work. If I can’t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.
Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?
Jeannie?
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
On Oct 27, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Brent via Groups.Io < whodo678@...> wrote:
Sometimes, just a restart and then Empty Trash works, but Safe Mode should do it.
No, there is no pref in Finder that I am aware of to remove after 30 days. I think you are confusing it with Mail.app, and you have to select that options.
I’m still in 10.13.6, but it is there. Under Finder Preferences > advanced. A checkbox. Seems that 30 days is the only choice, though. Either that duration or nothing. Maybe a terminal command can change that?
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io wrote: When it's all done and working, ?maybe you will consider Apple certification, and start a second career fixing iMacs out there in the wilds of Montana.
I don't think I'll be fixing many iMacs in Montana. I live just outside Philadelphia.
I was referring to Jim Robertson: "Still sitting on the fence regarding doing major surgery on my 2017 21.5” 4K iMac…"
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
Sometimes, just a restart and then Empty Trash works, but Safe Mode should do it.
No, there is no pref in Finder that I am aware of to remove after 30 days. I think you are confusing it with Mail.app, and you have to select that options.
Brent
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Daniel Settles wrote: Howdy.
Boot in Safe Disk Mode. Then empty Trash.
Denver Dan
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 10:17:47 -0600, Jeannie Girard wrote:
It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of
the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run
empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under
400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn’t work, I trued going in
to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if
there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had
deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it
for whatever.
I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30
day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I
should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro,
But it is done, and now I have to try a way to either get rid of it,
or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets
full.
I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to
do that. I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to
try it again.
If I can’t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see
what they can do
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Re: Shut Down/Restart Problem
#Mac
Yes, different keyboards.
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 01:24, Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote:
I just used Control-Option-Command-F12 (marked as also being the eject key on my Matias keyboard)
and my Mac did an orderly shutdown!
On Oct 27, 2019, at 3:20 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote:
F12 is immediately adjacent to Eject on my MBP so that makes sense.
Otto
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 20:11, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc= [email protected]> wrote:
Better yet : Open the Trash in Finder OpenTerminal Enter ?sudo rm -rf ? in Terminal Type a <space> after that Then, go the the open Trash folder and drag something you want to delete to the open Terminal window
This will add the file, and its exact filepath, to the command, so you can’t possible make an error with that.
Then <Enter>, and provide your password.
Yes that is a great feature of Terminal + Finder and I would normally suggest that, but in this case we want to delete everything in there. Copy-paste is safe for this short command.?
Otto
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When it's all done and working, ?maybe you will consider Apple certification, and start a second career fixing iMacs out there in the wilds of Montana.
I don't think I'll be fixing many iMacs in Montana. I live just outside Philadelphia.
I was referring to Jim Robertson: "Still sitting on the fence regarding doing major surgery on my 2017 21.5” 4K iMac…"
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