Re: New MacBook Pro Boots When Lid is Opened
Howdy. Or, boot with Option Command p r pressed. If you have a startup chime, keep the 4 keys pressed until you hear the chime a 2nd time. Denver Dan On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 13:33:30 -0600, Bev in TX wrote:
There is a startup maintenance command called Zap the PRAM which is a
reset of NVRAM aka Parameter RAM. This type of PRAM holds settings
that are accessed by the Mac before it finishes booting.
Denver Dan
Of course you are right - that¡¯s what I meant. In fact the command
is ¡°nvram¡±.
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Re: New MacBook Pro Boots When Lid is Opened
On Mar 6, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
Bev, I'm not aware of a VRAM reset.
You may be thinking of NVRAM which means Non Volatile Random Access
Memory.
There is a startup maintenance command called Zap the PRAM which is a
reset of NVRAM aka Parameter RAM. This type of PRAM holds settings
that are accessed by the Mac before it finishes booting.
Denver Dan Of course you are right - that¡¯s what I meant. In fact the command is ¡°nvram¡±. -- Bev in TX
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Re: New MacBook Pro Boots When Lid is Opened
Howdy. Bev, I'm not aware of a VRAM reset. You may be thinking of NVRAM which means Non Volatile Random Access Memory. There is a startup maintenance command called Zap the PRAM which is a reset of NVRAM aka Parameter RAM. This type of PRAM holds settings that are accessed by the Mac before it finishes booting. Denver Dan On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 11:29:56 -0600, Bev in TX wrote: EaszPeazy in Terminal. You can copy/paste the command from the article
into Terminal.
Denver Dan Thanks, that is one of the articles that I read. I don¡¯t like the
fact that you have to turn it off again every time you reset VRAM.
So I was trying to get folks opinions on whether this feature is
something to just become acclimated or if it would be a bother.
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Re: iMac seems frozen while restarting.
A Mac with an SSD, no external HDDs, should boot up fast. ?
You can also do the routine maintenance startup routines that have been?
discussed frequently here.?
Zap PRAM
Safe Disk Boot?
SMC reset?
Boot in Recovery and run First Aid?
Denver Dan
If I had those symptoms on my MBPro, the first thing I would do is restart with <Shift> held down (Safe Boot).
Let that finish its clean-and-check routines (invisibly), however long that takes, then restart.
I wouldn¡¯t expect zapping the PRAM to accomplish much on. new machine. And I haven¡¯t found SMC reset to be helpful for quite a few years.
But my *next* step WOULD be Recovery Mode and Disk Utility First Aid.
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Re: New MacBook Pro Boots When Lid is Opened
Yes, I think that is what you would want to happen most of the time. ?And since it boots and shuts down so fast, it would be easy to shut it down in the less frequent situations when you didn¡¯t want it on.
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On Mar 6, 2020, at 4:55 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
My view is, why would you open the screen unless you wanted to use it, so booting from shutdown?makes sense to me. This is an obvious follow-on from wake from sleep.
Otto Well I started setting up my 2019 16¡± MBP, sand I am learning some new things already.? For one, simply opening its lid causes it to boot.? I found a command to run in Terminal that will turn that off, but if you reset VRAM, then you have to reset it again.? Actually that feature also on MBP 2016 and later models and the MBA 2018 model.
If you have one of those models, what do you think about that feature?? Do you like, or dislike it?
For those who elected to turn that feature off, have you encountered any drawbacks after doing so?
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Bev in TX
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Re: New MacBook Pro Boots When Lid is Opened
On Mar 6, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
Article on how to disable boot when lid is opened.
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EaszPeazy in Terminal. You can copy/paste the command from the article
into Terminal.
Denver Dan Thanks, that is one of the articles that I read. I don¡¯t like the fact that you have to turn it off again every time you reset VRAM. So I was trying to get folks opinions on whether this feature is something to just become acclimated or if it would be a bother. -- Bev in TX
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Re: New MacBook Pro Boots When Lid is Opened
Otto:
It would seem logical that you wouldn't want your computer on when you were cleaning the keyboard and perhaps the screen. I've found that cleaning the keyboard is best done with the computer off.
John
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Re: iMac seems frozen while restarting.
Power it off; reboot.
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Vineland, NJ
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KarenP
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 12:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [macsupportcentral] iMac seems frozen while restarting.
I just restarted my iMac, and now it is stuck on the apple symbol and the progress
bar almost at the very end. It¡¯s been like that for about five minutes now. What
should I do? Do I hold down the on off button on the back of the monitor?
¨C Karan
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Re: New MacBook Pro Boots When Lid is Opened
Howdy. Article on how to disable boot when lid is opened. <> EaszPeazy in Terminal. You can copy/paste the command from the article into Terminal. Denver Dan On Thu, 05 Mar 2020 16:07:10 -0800, Bev in TX wrote: Well I started setting up my 2019 16¡± MBP, sand I am learning some
new things already. For one, simply opening its lid causes it to
boot. I found a command to run in Terminal that will turn that off,
but if you reset VRAM, then you have to reset it again. Actually
that feature also on MBP 2016 and later models and the MBA 2018 model.
If you have one of those models, what do you think about that
feature? Do you like, or dislike it?
For those who elected to turn that feature off, have you encountered
any drawbacks after doing so?
Thanks,
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Bev in TX
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Re: New MacBook Pro Boots When Lid is Opened
My view is, why would you open the screen unless you wanted to use it, so booting from shutdown?makes sense to me. This is an obvious follow-on from wake from sleep.
Otto
Well I started setting up my 2019 16¡± MBP, sand I am learning some new things already.? For one, simply opening its lid causes it to boot.? I found a command to run in Terminal that will turn that off, but if you reset VRAM, then you have to reset it again.? Actually that feature also on MBP 2016 and later models and the MBA 2018 model.
If you have one of those models, what do you think about that feature?? Do you like, or dislike it?
For those who elected to turn that feature off, have you encountered any drawbacks after doing so?
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Re: iMac seems frozen while restarting.
Howdy. It may have been doing something routine for a new computer. Do another shut down and cold boot and see how long it takes. A Mac with an SSD, no external HDDs, should boot up fast. You can also do the routine maintenance startup routines that have been discussed frequently here. Zap PRAM Safe Disk Boot SMC reset Boot in Recovery and run First Aid Denver Dan On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 00:48:55 -0500, KarenP wrote: It just came back up after another few minutes of waiting. But I¡¯d
still like to know what I would do in a case like this and if that
long wait time for a restart is a symptom of something I need to look
further into.
_Karen
On Mar 6, 2020, at 12:41 AM, KarenP <waystation9@...> wrote:
I just restarted my iMac, and now it is stuck on the apple symbol
and the progress bar almost at the very end. It¡¯s been like that for
about five minutes now. What should I do? Do I hold down the on off
button on the back of the monitor? [|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|] iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro 2019
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Re: iMac seems frozen while restarting.
It just came back up after another few minutes of waiting. But I¡¯d still like to know what I would do in a case like this and if that long wait time for a restart is a symptom of something I need to look further into.
_Karen
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On Mar 6, 2020, at 12:41 AM, KarenP <waystation9@...> wrote:
I just restarted my iMac, and now it is stuck on the apple symbol and the progress bar almost at the very end. It¡¯s been like that for about five minutes now. What should I do? Do I hold down the on off button on the back of the monitor?
¨C Karan
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iMac seems frozen while restarting.
I just restarted my iMac, and now it is stuck on the apple symbol and the progress bar almost at the very end. It¡¯s been like that for about five minutes now. What should I do? Do I hold down the on off button on the back of the monitor?
¨C Karan
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New MacBook Pro Boots When Lid is Opened
Well I started setting up my 2019 16¡± MBP, sand I am learning some new things already. ?For one, simply opening its lid causes it to boot. ?I found a command to run in Terminal that will turn that off, but if you reset VRAM, then you have to reset it again. ?Actually that feature also on MBP 2016 and later models and the MBA 2018 model.
If you have one of those models, what do you think about that feature? ?Do you like, or dislike it?
For those who elected to turn that feature off, have you encountered any drawbacks after doing so?
Thanks,
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Bev in TX
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On Mar 5, 2020, at 3:10 AM, James I wrote: Will you please contact me regarding 17¡± MacBook Pro 2010 - I¡¯m having many problems including a corrupted OS install disk. Note that many folks have had problems installing OS upgrades due to an expired certificate problem: <> ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance ___________________________________________
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Re: MacPro 2019 Back Home
John Mills?wrote: As I follow the various problems associated with the new MBP and Catalina, it?is clear that what is currently working for my office and at our home will not ?be?"improved". We'll be sticking with Sierra, High Sierra and El Capitan running on?MB Pros (late 2008 and 2015) and the wonderful MB Air models of 2013.
I can¡¯t speak to the new MBPro, but I¡¯ve been an early adopted of the newest macOS version (typically about 1 month before final release) for many years.
Presently on a 6? year old MBPro11,3.
I¡¯m having no problems at all with Catalina (except, of course, for a few 32-bit apps I like).
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Re: Time Machine "no backups for xxx" warning
In my case usually about 10 days with daily reminders after.
Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!
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On Mar 5, 2020, at 10:19, Keith Parr via Groups.Io <kg.parr@...> wrote:
Please can you say when they appear? Is it, for example, after 10 days, or ...?
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Re: MacPro 2019 Back Home
As I follow the various problems associated with the new MBP and Catalina, it is clear that what is currently working for my office and at our home will not ?be "improved". We'll be sticking with Sierra, High Sierra and El Capitan running on MB Pros (late 2008 and 2015) and the wonderful MB Air models of 2013.
Hopefully Apple will eventually sort this all out so IF one buys a new computer from them, it will work more seamlessly than is currently evident. For the life of me these new models and Catalina are reminiscent of the reliability and "ease of re-fixing" of an early 1960's British Triumph sports car.
John Mills
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Re: Time Machine "no backups for xxx" warning
Please can you say when they appear?? Is it, for example, after 10 days, or ...?
Thanks
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Re: Time Machine "no backups for xxx" warning
I'm still seeing them - 2019 MBP.
Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!
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On Mar 4, 2020, at 16:07, Keith Parr via Groups.Io <kg.parr@...> wrote:
Recently we have noticed that these warnings are no longer displayed. I'd like to think that we will be able to remember anyway, but Murphy's Law probably applies ...
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