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Re: heHow do I remove an update in the app store for software that is not on my MBP?

 

Can’t look it up right now, but I recall I was able to go into my account, look at purchases from the App Store and “hide” some of them. ?


Re: heHow do I remove an update in the app store for software that is not on my MBP?

 

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I am on a late 2012 Mac mini. The App Store offers up, but not as upgrade, apps that need a macOS beyond what the hardware can install, or am not yet at.

If I search for an app, it might offer me a version I can’t use if it is an app that didn’t exist when the hardware was released, but not as an upgrade.?

The one big exception was a special case. They were the app that at one time were released as part of the OS, Numbers, Pages Keynote and one other I can’t think of at 4am. Since I bought the Mac mini as refurbished and Installed a “pulled” new HDD, I had to upgrade several OSes. Since my prior Mac were much older, I had never needed to “buy” a free upgraded version of these apps that were part of either iWork or iLife. So when I went to the App Store I had no record of previously “buying” these apps to update. AND I was searching after Apple had purged the older versions from Support. There was no way to purchase an older version, and you can’t downgrade versions if I somehow purchased a newer version.?

Thankfully, a copy from someone else of Numbers and Pages can just be dropped into the Application folder. Who knows what hoops I’d have to jump thru if I bought a new Mac.?


Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Mar 5, 2025, at 21:25, Paul via groups.io <paul@...> wrote:

?Hi

Perhaps in App Store download it and then update? ?Toss it later if you don’t need it.?

Paul?
. Some imagination required.?

On Mar 5, 2025, at 8:10?PM, billgr0248 via groups.io <billgr0248@...> wrote:

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MacOS shows an uninstalled update in the App Store for software that I do not have on my MBP. ?I can't figure out how to remove the update from the list. ?Any suggestions?
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Thanks in advance,

billgr024


Re: heHow do I remove an update in the app store for software that is not on my MBP?

 

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Hi

Perhaps in App Store download it and then update? ?Toss it later if you don’t need it.?

Paul?
. Some imagination required.?

On Mar 5, 2025, at 8:10?PM, billgr0248 via groups.io <billgr0248@...> wrote:

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MacOS shows an uninstalled update in the App Store for software that I do not have on my MBP. ?I can't figure out how to remove the update from the list. ?Any suggestions?
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Thanks in advance,

billgr024


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I’ve never found a way to do that.

Mine keeps showing up versions of macOS that I can’t install on that specific laptop.

cjc

On 6 Mar 2025, at 3:10?pm, billgr0248 via groups.io <billgr0248@...> wrote:

MacOS shows an uninstalled update in the App Store for software that I do not have on my MBP. ?I can't figure out how to remove the update from the list. ?Any suggestions?
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Thanks in advance,

billgr024



heHow do I remove an update in the app store for software that is not on my MBP?

billgr0248
 

MacOS shows an uninstalled update in the App Store for software that I do not have on my MBP. ?I can't figure out how to remove the update from the list. ?Any suggestions?
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Thanks in advance,

billgr024


Re: questions about the Apple refurbish shop

 

They can appear within weeks, but availability the refurb store is hard to predict. High demand items can appear and disappear in hours, and the discount is small. There are tracking apps and websites that can alert you when particular items appear for precisely this reason. What appears in the refurb store is subject to stocks on hand and market forces. Frequently entire classes of items are not available, like zero mini’s.

Pricing “discounts” are misleading. Discounts are based on original retail, so older models appear to be discounted more, but if you compare prices to current aftermarket prices they are in line. This is partially because Apple is setting the market, but if a particularly model has a surplus supply in the aftermarket, it will be discounted more. Typically I find the discounting on high-end models more appealing. Particularly when tow generations are close in performance. For instance a maxed out M2 versus a similar M4. I speculate this is because people prepared to pay premium prices are more likely to purchase new than refurb. People on the refurb store are looking for deals. Since the refurb comes with everything a new product does, including the same warranty, this is great. But as stated above, these are definitely harder to jump on. The newer, the rarer. I have also found refurb store items to be extremely reliable. That is, I’ve purchased many over the years and never had a failure, ever. YMMV but I believe this is because refurbs have been more thoroughly tested than new machines and off-the-line defects have been weeded out.

That said, my last two purchase were new. In one case, the small refurb discount did not outweigh the free financing available using an Applecard. Applecard free financing is not available on refurbs. In another is was because refurbs also can’t be customized. If you want something specific that is not common, it may simply not be available in the precise configuration you want. I “saved” money over a refurb simply because I could configure a less expensive new machine that met my needs.

Also watch out for the small details not apparent in the descriptions. If you are shopping on the refurb market and looking for deals, you need to understand the details of various models for comparison and the potentially available options. If a deal looks really good, try to figure out why. There is a reason! I highly recommend getting and understanding how to use the MacTracker app to compare models. Keep a sharp eye out for all the small “gotchas.” I only see 64BG models. What is the max? Did that particular model have a “defect” people really didn’t like, such as a bad keyboard? Does that model have an 1/4” audio jack, or an SD card slot, or more USB ports? Remember that between generations, models change in many tiny, but not insignificant ways. None of this will be apparent on the refurb store.

Cheers,
tod


Re: Access to an external HD

 

I understand what you are saying, Brent, and I have dealt with drives like that before.? This is different.
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What I have is essentially the same as what you above called "WD Cavier Green bare HDD" however, instead of the flat SATA interface, there is a USB socket on the board.
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I have this morning removed the PCB (the green board in Brent's last photo) on the failed drive and replaced it with a known good one.? The drive spun up, as before, but this time it tried to fly the heads - and failed.
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I have to conclude that the platters and the interface board are dead, a double fault (which does happen but I find suspicious), and I find it interesting (that is to say, I don't have an explanation) that the disk performed differently with the two interface boards.
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I'm now wondering whether the formatting information may account for the difference.? The known good interface board came from an NTFS formatted disk, the failed disk was HFS+.
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Having carefully reassembled both disks, I think I'm now looking at another attempt to exchange the boards after having reformatted the new disk as HFS+.? But not today <smile>.
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Keith
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questions about the Apple refurbish shop

 

Hello,
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I don't know if this is the place to ask about how Apple's Refurbished Store, please
delete if inappropriate.
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My wonderings have do with how soon the latest releases of Apple products appear
in the Refurbished Store and how much they are discounted. Other than Iphones, I
am not familiar with how the other Apple products are marketed.
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An example is the October 2024 of the M4 Macbook Pro. In early February my
newsfeed delivered an article mentioning these laptops were being added to the
Refurbished Store. Out of curiosity I went to the store to find which models were
being offered, discounts ranged from $700.00-$830.00.? Is that common these
days?? Seems to me discounts used to be in the $200.00 range.? Maybe part of
my mind is stuck in another decade.
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Best wishes,
Hec
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Re: Access to an external HD

 

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Keith, you still have the “sled” or adapter circuitboard attached to the drive. That is most likely what has failed if you can hear or feel the discs turning.

Look at the photo you posted, <IMG_1568.jpeg> and this one from a prior post>




Now look at my old, dismantled ?Seagate external drive. Seagate uses a “tin” sled, and WD uses a plastic one.In your photo above the sled is the black you see. In the other photo, find the four screw holes on the wide flat surface. Along side of those you see four black protrusions for mounting the drive in the plastic box. They are part of the sled. There is a small circuitboard hidden under that black sled which most likely has died.?



This is the underside of a WD Cavier Green bare HDD, Notice the flat, smooth sides with no protrusions? Notice the locations of the contacts, data towards the edge and power towards the center, not all centered like another of your earlier photos.?

Remove the failed sled. It is providing power to spin the drive, but failing to transfer data. If you slide the HD away from the contacts in the photos with the red circle, it may come free, but there maybe some clip you heed to release.

Brent ?

On my Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On Mar 2, 2025, at 1:21 AM, Keith Parr via <kg.parr@...> wrote:

The original enclosure is simply a plastic box, Brent.
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<IMG_1568.jpeg>
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You can see this in the teardown article to which I posted a link, but above is a photo of my drive and its box.? The only interface is the USB socket on the PC board.
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Keith
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Re: Access to an external HD

 

The original enclosure is simply a plastic box, Brent.
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You can see this in the teardown article to which I posted a link, but above is a photo of my drive and its box.? The only interface is the USB socket on the PC board.
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Keith
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Re: Access to an external HD

 

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What are you using to spin it up? The original enclosure or something else?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Mar 1, 2025, at 04:48, Keith Parr via groups.io <kg.parr@...> wrote:

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Thanks David.? I'm aware of Disk Drill but I first need to get the electronics to read the drive.? The drive spins up, no "clicks-of-death", but the drive never shows up in the Finder.? Disk Utility doesn't see it either.
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Keith
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Re: Access to an external HD

 

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I thought that might be the case, Keith.

I ran this past ChatGPT with this response:-

That sounds frustrating for your friend — there are a few things they can check to troubleshoot the issue:

  1. Check the connections:

    • Ensure the cable and any adapters are working — try a different cable or port.
    • If using a USB hub, connect the drive directly to the Mac.
  2. Power supply:

    • If the drive requires external power (common with older or larger drives), confirm it's properly powered.
  3. System Report:

    • Go to?Apple menu > About This Mac > System Report > USB?(or Thunderbolt, depending on the drive).
    • See if the drive appears under the hardware list — this checks if the Mac detects the physical connection at all.
  4. Try Terminal:

    • Open?Terminal?and type:
    diskutil list
    
    • If the drive shows up here but not in Disk Utility, it could be a partition issue.
  5. Test on another computer:

    • Connect the drive to another Mac or a PC to see if the issue is Mac-specific.
  6. Reset SMC and NVRAM:

    • If it’s a weird hardware glitch, resetting these might help.
  7. Live Linux session (optional):

    • If all else fails, boot from a Linux live USB and check if Linux can detect the drive — sometimes it’s better at handling failing hardware.

If none of these work, the drive might have filesystem corruption or hardware failure — though the absence of clicks is a good sign. Let me know how they get on!

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If there’s something you haven’t already tried, it will be with the ask! ?

Good luck.

David



On 1 Mar 2025, at 12:48, Keith Parr via groups.io <kg.parr@...> wrote:

Thanks David.? I'm aware of Disk Drill but I first need to get the electronics to read the drive.? The drive spins up, no "clicks-of-death", but the drive never shows up in the Finder.? Disk Utility doesn't see it either.
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Keith
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Re: Access to an external HD

 

Thanks for the idea of a replacement circuit board, Tod.? I've had a look on Ebay and it looks as if they are available but I wonder about the reliability of the sources.? Claims like "came out of a working drive" make me wonder why you would break down a working drive and sell the parts separately.
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I've take a different route to the same goal: I've ordered an identical (I hope!) new drive and plan on swapping the board over to see whether I can access the failed drive with it.? My thinking is that I would have a known good replacement board and, if the swap doesn't work, I would still have an additional new drive.
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My remaining concern is that I don't know where the dead sector details are stored: if it's stored on the external PC board then I have a problem, if it's inside the disk itself then I should be OK.? Maybe, just maybe, DW or Disk Drill might be able to work around that.? First, I need to read the data!
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Keith
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Re: Access to an external HD

 

Thanks David.? I'm aware of Disk Drill but I first need to get the electronics to read the drive.? The drive spins up, no "clicks-of-death", but the drive never shows up in the Finder.? Disk Utility doesn't see it either.
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Keith
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Re: Faxing

 

On Feb 28, 2025, at 11:24 AM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

Can anyone (Randy?) recommend a fax-by-email service that is free or pay-as-you-go, rather than a subscription. I have gone months or years without needing the service, then just a few pages.
Have a look at this article:



FaxFresh

FaxFresh allows you to pay per fax without any contractual commitment, and by using the Web instead of e-mail.


Here is a free fax site that offers a max of 2 faxes a day up to 14 pages each:




__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________


Re: Faxing

 

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On Feb 28, 2025, at 12:24?PM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

Can anyone (Randy?) recommend a fax-by-email service that is free or pay-as-you-go,

Jim, I think you’re eligible for a free “fax number” from Doximity.

--?
Jim Robertson


Re: Access to an external HD

 

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The port you have circled in red looks like a ribbon connector port. This type of ribbon cable is a bunch of tiny wires held in position by the insulation, commonly gray in color, and uses a male terminator, to my very limited knowledge.
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?I take it WD said no joy.


Brent ?

On my Mac mini running 10.15.7?

On Feb 28, 2025, at 1:31 AM, Keith Parr via <kg.parr@...> wrote:

Thanks for these ideas, Tod.
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I'm familiar with the sort of SATA drives you picture and I have the necessary interface device for them, but this is not one of them.? It's a type I haven't seen before.? Have a look at to see what I have.
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The interface looks like:?
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<2021020619598429.jpg>
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I'd be interested if anyone has seen an adapter to fit such a connector.
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Keith
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Faxing

 

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Can anyone (Randy?) recommend a fax-by-email service that is free or pay-as-you-go, rather than a subscription. I have gone months or years without needing the service, then just a few pages.

Incoming is received as a PDF attachment to an email (the service provides a “fax number” for the sender.

I realize that we are steadily moving away from faxes toward simply emailing documents, but older businesses and governments sometimes like to fax.

There seem to be a lot of options in the App Store.

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
Jim logo small.jpg


Re: Access to an external HD

 

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Fascinating. Tear downs are great. I appreciate that people take the time to document such efforts. It’s no small task.

So it is a custom connection, but digging further suggests that it is still a SATA drive, so the trick is just the connection (and potentially firmware but that’s another issue).

Is it worth trying to purchase a working circuit board? They are available on eBay and may be available through other parts channels.

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The teardown indicated that the particular drive may have hard-failed internally. He at least suggests that the mechanism appears particularly fragile (no suprise) and unusual. Some further research may indicate these have a particularly high failure rate and the odds for a successful repair.

Other forums with more hardware oriented members might recognize that connector. It is actually familiar to me. Circuit board connections like it are pretty generic. The question would be if that particular one is commonly used for SATA board connections such that the pin outs are standardized. Trouble is that what I’ve seen indicates that the entire comm connection is custom, so generic adapters likely won’t work. I think you need a working circuit board.

Cheers,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Tod





On Feb 28, 2025, at 4:31?AM, Keith Parr via groups.io <kg.parr@...> wrote:

Thanks for these ideas, Tod.
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I'm familiar with the sort of SATA drives you picture and I have the necessary interface device for them, but this is not one of them.? It's a type I haven't seen before.? Have a look at to see what I have.
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The interface looks like:?
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<2021020619598429.jpg>
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I'd be interested if anyone has seen an adapter to fit such a connector.
?
Keith
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Re: Access to an external HD

 

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Hello again Keith

I’m not sure if it’s worth mentioning to you, but in years gone by I have successfully used this product:-


(I’m not on commission!)

Kind regards,
David


On 28 Feb 2025, at 09:21, Keith Parr via groups.io <kg.parr@...> wrote:

This is a rotating platter HFS+ disc.? I have not bothered to reformat my old drives.? I already have DW from the days when it was my go-to repair mechanism after a crash / accident / whatever.? It's really sad that Alsoft still has insufficient information on APFS to be able to release an APFS version.
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Keith
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