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There is a third party app which will download all content from a Yahoo Group. It's Windows-only, and I don't know if you can upload?that same content to . <>
Otto
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 01:30, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678= [email protected]> wrote: I'll give you 110 reasons, it cost $110 dollars. Reason #111, very few people use the archives and most is outdated.
#112, some member didn't have access depending upon how they joined yahoo groups, so they must not be critical.
I joined using an email, not by joining yahoo groups and then joining MSC. I've been a member since 2011 and have never has access to the archives. $110 is about 50 cents per active member. I am guessing that is about $25 per user of the archives.
On the oldest online MUG, the went with the option of taking donations. It is also one of the larger yahoo groups if you take the yahoo stats verbatim. So far 86 active members have moved over, and taken in about $50 in donations.
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I keep all messages from my groups and can search?them if required. I doubt I'm the only?one.
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 00:32, Dave Kelly via Groups.Io <drkelly= [email protected]> wrote: Yeah, 110 good reasons. The group would have to upgrade to a premium group which costs $110. I don’t think it is worth the money to do that. Most of the information that has been discussed in the past 20 years is either obsolete now or searchable on the internet and the rest can be asked about and answered by group members.
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Fair comment Brent and Dave. I did not know there was a charge to get ones own group posts out of Yahoo. I doubt many groups will go for that.
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Jim and others:
PLEASE, when replying to a post, QUOTE some pertinent text from that message so we know what “hassle and likely expense” refers to without digging back through the thread.
Thanks!
Dave
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I had a look at the software which will run under Catalina on my machine and the list was staggering! Why would I want to go through the hassle and likely expense to do that?
Jim Foster
Santa Barbara
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I had a look at the software which will run under Catalina on my machine and the list was staggering!? Why would I want to go through the hassle and likely expense to do that?
I looked at it also.
My first pass was deleting a lot of apps that I no longer remembered, or that I tried once but never again.
My second pass was going to many websites to look for 64-bit updates, and downloading the ones I found.
Third pass was deciding which of the remainder I wanted enough to keep that I would wait to see if an update eventually came out, and deleting the rest.
Wasn’t that bad.
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I had a look at the software which will run under Catalina on my machine and the list was staggering!? Why would I want to go through the hassle and likely expense to do that?
Jim Foster
Santa Barbara
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:15 AM, Dave Kelly via Groups.Io < drkelly@...> wrote:
Your 8G ram should be adequate. More ram may help but it might not make any difference. Is it faster loading if you don't have any other apps running?
It kind of sounds like your Finance software might be trying to load its database into ram (for faster access?). maybe not.
Just now I looked at the same task (launching SEE Finance) on my late 2016 15” Quad Core i7 MacBook Pro 2.7 GHz , 16 GBytes RAM, 512 GB internal SSD. The program loaded completely in 10 seconds, and occupied about 850 MB of RAM when it was finished loading. That’s a comparable space to what’s committed on the iMac, where my swap file is twice the size and the total available RAM is half as much.
So, I suspect more RAM might help. I’ll contact the developer for verification or other ideas.
Jim Robertson
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It is always good practice to make a BOOTABLE backup immediately before upgrading the OS. Catalina makes many changes and does things differently. I’ve upgraded my iMac (late 2012) and haven’t had any issue. However, I DO have a bootable backup just in case. So far so good. Most people seem to have no problem. Some people DO have issues of some sort. Having a good bootable backup is great insurance. With a good bootable backup, you can safely do the upgrade to Catalina and see how it works for you. If anything goes sideways, you can always simply restore or boot from the backup and you are back to where you were. A mere inconvenience as opposed to a possible disaster. By chance if you don’t know how to make a bootable backup, inquire here and there are several folks that would be happy to walk you through the process. It has been mentioned several times. It really is easy. Have fun! On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:53 AM, Debbi <djmcneer@...> wrote:
After reading the many messages of Catalina issues, I’m reluctant to pull the trigger. I’ve never made a back-up copy of my current OS prior to installing an update. I understand that some applications won’t work as they currently do (have been getting that warning for some time now), but I also understand that I can upgrade some and substitute others. I think I can work around that. Bob ’The Beckster’ Beckham FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement. Apple iMac 27” Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.0 - RAM 16 Gig 2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL 1993 Allen MDS Theater 2
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I'll give you 110 reasons, it cost $110 dollars. Reason #111, very few people use the archives and most is outdated.
#112, some member didn't have access depending upon how they joined yahoo groups, so they must not be critical.
I joined using an email, not by joining yahoo groups and then joining MSC. I've been a member since 2011 and have never has access to the archives. $110 is about 50 cents per active member. I am guessing that is about $25 per user of the archives.
On the oldest online MUG, the went with the option of taking donations. It is also one of the larger yahoo groups if you take the yahoo stats verbatim. So far 86 active members have moved over, and taken in about $50 in donations.
Brent
Mac user since 1998
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 4:21 PM, Karl Winkelmann wrote: Is there a good reason to not transfer the groups archived post? I did not see any discussion about this.
Two other groups I am in have transferred all their posts; 15 and 13 years respectively. Surely space is not an issue and being able to occasionally consult older posts can be useful and may avoid re-asking the same question.
Karl W
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Yeah, 110 good reasons. The group would have to upgrade to a premium group which costs $110. I don’t think it is worth the money to do that. Most of the information that has been discussed in the past 20 years is either obsolete now or searchable on the internet and the rest can be asked about and answered by group members.
Dave
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Karl Winkelmann <ww2censor@...> wrote:
Is there a good reason to not transfer the groups archived post? I did not see any discussion about this.
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Is there a good reason to not transfer the groups archived post? I did not see any discussion about this.
Two other groups I am in have transferred all their posts; 15 and 13 years respectively. Surely space is not an issue and being able to occasionally consult older posts can be useful and may avoid re-asking the same question.
Karl W
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Enjoy some New Mexico chili and try not to get blown away in the winds we’ve been experiencing!
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:
? Howdy from Santa Fe?
iTunes goes away but not your music. All 25,000 songs, mostly ripped CDs, on my ?ac are still there and work.?
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io <pat412@...> wrote:
? That’s what I’ve read in the tech press, but have not yet upgraded to Catalina myself. ?Here’s one article on the subject:
Pat On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
Surely all your ripped (transferred from CD) music will remain in Music > iTunes (or wherever you keep it) after the upgrade? Can someone confirm?
Otto I’m a lazy MacBook Air user. And I’ve always trusted that system upgrades are going to improve my computing experience. I blithely click on the Install, it does its think, and I haven’t lost any functionality so far.
After reading the many messages of Catalina issues, I’m reluctant to pull the trigger. I’ve never made a back-up copy of my current OS prior to installing an update. I understand that some applications won’t work as they currently do (have been getting that warning for some time now), but I also understand that I can upgrade some and substitute others. I think I can work around that.
I’ve learned that all of the music I laboriously transferred from CD to iTunes will be gone (only iTunes purchases will transfer), but I mostly use streaming services for music now, so I don’t think that will be too hard to handle.
Here’s my issue: I’ve Googled and checked Canon’s website to see if my MX922 printer will be compatible and I guess I just don’t know enough about what I’m reading to figure it out.
I’ve updated my iPhone Xr and my iPad mini, with no issues. It’s really just the laptop-to-printer I’m worried about.
At this point, I continue to postpone the Catalina install, only because of the printer. Do any of you have a Canon MX922, and does it still work with Catalina?
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Many thanks for your advice.
Jim, I do back with Time Machine, but have never cloned an OS. I've been using Macs since the '90s. I've been really lucky to have never needed to retrieve something.
Good to know about the ripped music. And VERY good to know about the printer, Bev.
Thanks again.
Debbi?
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Howdy from Santa Fe?
iTunes goes away but not your music. All 25,000 songs, mostly ripped CDs, on my ?ac are still there and work.?
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io <pat412@...> wrote:
? That’s what I’ve read in the tech press, but have not yet upgraded to Catalina myself. ?Here’s one article on the subject:
Pat On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
Surely all your ripped (transferred from CD) music will remain in Music > iTunes (or wherever you keep it) after the upgrade? Can someone confirm?
Otto I’m a lazy MacBook Air user. And I’ve always trusted that system upgrades are going to improve my computing experience. I blithely click on the Install, it does its think, and I haven’t lost any functionality so far.
After reading the many messages of Catalina issues, I’m reluctant to pull the trigger. I’ve never made a back-up copy of my current OS prior to installing an update. I understand that some applications won’t work as they currently do (have been getting that warning for some time now), but I also understand that I can upgrade some and substitute others. I think I can work around that.
I’ve learned that all of the music I laboriously transferred from CD to iTunes will be gone (only iTunes purchases will transfer), but I mostly use streaming services for music now, so I don’t think that will be too hard to handle.
Here’s my issue: I’ve Googled and checked Canon’s website to see if my MX922 printer will be compatible and I guess I just don’t know enough about what I’m reading to figure it out.
I’ve updated my iPhone Xr and my iPad mini, with no issues. It’s really just the laptop-to-printer I’m worried about.
At this point, I continue to postpone the Catalina install, only because of the printer. Do any of you have a Canon MX922, and does it still work with Catalina?
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I spoke with an Apple Senior Advisor about 30 minutes ago and was told that all my music on i-Tunes will remain intact.
Its true that Apple is abandoning i-Tunes but the advisor informed me that i-Tunes is being split into four categories;
Music, Podcasts, Audio Books and Apple TV.
Whether the music currently housed in i-Tunes was downloaded or purchased, it will still appear under the new heading, Music.
Nothing should be lost.
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Yes I am using the same email address and both groups now appear in Your Groups.
Tony M
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Dave Kelly via Groups.Io < drkelly@...> wrote:
Are you using the same email address to sign up to both? Your email? nyrngrz@...?still only shows up as a member of macsupportcentral and not iMacChat.
Dave
On Oct 21, 2019, at 11:00 AM, Tony M via Groups.Io < nyrngrz@...> wrote:
I just joined the iMacChat group and when I go to??and look at Your Groups, iMacChat is shown this Group macsupportcentral does not appear. Why is that?
Tony M
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Re: Underscan on TV set - Mojave - 10.14.6
It sounds like the settings for the display (in the Display Preferences) is not recognizing your screen. Sometimes there are settings you can adjust on the monitor itself that let you adjust the picture properties. Have you tried that?
Dave
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Lyle Syverson < lyle837@...> wrote:
Every time I start or restart my computer, only half of the icons on the bottom of screen show and none of the words at the top of the screen show. I bring up the control box for the display, click on the adjustment for underscan and the screen is imediately the adjusted to the proper size. Then I adjust the screen with a large border and try again… same behavior. This was true also with the two previous operating systems.
It is only a nuisance, but there must be a way to correct this.?
Lyle Syverson
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Sorry, I try to do that. When I answer from the web page the messages flow is much better.
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If we could, perhaps a reminder to carry the conversation forward when we post. AT this point I don’t know to whom you are responding. ? Thank you for your consideration. --? Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ
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Are you using the same email address to sign up to both? Your email? nyrngrz@...?still only shows up as a member of macsupportcentral and not iMacChat.
Dave
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On Oct 21, 2019, at 11:00 AM, Tony M via Groups.Io < nyrngrz@...> wrote:
I just joined the iMacChat group and when I go to??and look at Your Groups, iMacChat is shown this Group macsupportcentral does not appear. Why is that?
Tony M
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Jim Saklad
Bob Beckham
Brent
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Debbi