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Re: Getting rid of Junk in Mail

 

On Nov 10, 2024, at 7:16?AM, Joan Sax via groups.io <jsax@...> wrote:

Is there any way to delete the contents of the Junk folder without the files migrating to ‘Trash’ where one has to ‘Select All’ once again to get rid of them?
Personally, I don’t bother, because generally speaking my mail servers automatically delete Junk/SPAM email after 30 days (iCloud, Gmail, & Yahoo!). Depending on the platform and account, you may find a setting for automatically deleting/erasing messages in Trash, Junk, or both.

On a Mac


Mail > Settings > Accounts tab > select an account
Under Junk Mailbox: Erase junk messages:
Select from several options (as short as 1 day)
Under Trash Mailbox: Erase deleted messages:
Select from several options (as short as 1 day)
These options are available for all of my accounts, but I don’t know how “Never” interacts with the server automatically deleting junk/SPAM automatically after 30 days.

There are fewer options on iPads and iPhones. On these devices only my Yahoo! Mail account has a similar option for specifying how long deleted mail is to be retained, and no option for junk/SPAM.
Settings > Apps > Mail > Accounts > select account
Account Settings > Advanced
Under Deleted Messages:
Remove:
Never
After one day
After one week
After one month

I have always set to delete trash messages Never, so I am unfamiliar with other settings. Sometimes I’ve seen over active SPAM filtering send valid message to Junk/SPAM, so I try to check a couple times a month for misfiled messages.

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Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

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Jim Saklad wrote:
I even have Reminders set for clock changes

Jim Robertson
And, before dismissing “pedant mode” for the day, I’ll make the observation that probably neither of us lives close enough to an all-night airport for this to make any practical difference, but the times don’t change at 23:59, they do so at 0200.

I did that specifically and intentionally.

At “Fall Back” time change, I don’t much care that I’m getting an extra hour’s sleep that night, or that I will wake up an hour earlier than I expected to, so the Reminder is there simply to *remind* me. Except for our thermostats, pretty much all our clocks auto-change. Even the cars.

But at “Spring Forward” time change, I will lose an hour’s sleep, and I want to be reminded of that BEFORE I go to bed, in case I want to go to bed earlier than usual, or something. So even though the clocks shift at 0200, I set my Reminder for 2359, 2 hours before the event.


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Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

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I’m thinking you’re both correct to a point. Officially, the changes happen at 2:00 am, but if you fly or have to be at work in the early am, changing the clock as you go to bed the night before makes sense.?

My dad was a news photographer who flew internationally, long before “go bags” got their name. We were taught to write down messages in military time, in the time zone of the event, not the time zone of home base.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Nov 10, 2024, at 12:10, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

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On Nov 10, 2024, at 12:02?PM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

I even have Reminders set for clock changes:

And, before dismissing “pedant mode” for the day, I’ll make the observation that probably neither of us lives close enough to an all-night airport for this to make any practical difference, but the times don’t change at 23:59, they do so at 0200.

Admittedly, the likelihood that will make any difference in most people’s lives is minuscule.

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Jim Robertson


Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

Yes, Bev’s suggestion works on my iPhone as well.

Thanks for reporting back! I will suggest that next time we all make comments on one thread, as now I see 3 separate threads all discussing the same issue ?

Jackie

On Nov 10, 2024, at 2:24?PM, Joan Sax via groups.io <jsax@...> wrote:

I figured out what to do in Calendar to creat an event that repeats every 4 weeks.
Click on Custom, then Custom again, Frequency, Weekly, 4 (for four weeks)

Regards,
Joan


Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

I figured out what to do in Calendar to creat an event that repeats every 4 weeks.
Click on Custom, then Custom again, Frequency, Weekly, 4 (for four weeks)

Regards,
Joan


Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

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On Nov 10, 2024, at 12:02?PM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

I even have Reminders set for clock changes:

And, before dismissing “pedant mode” for the day, I’ll make the observation that probably neither of us lives close enough to an all-night airport for this to make any practical difference, but the times don’t change at 23:59, they do so at 0200.

Admittedly, the likelihood that will make any difference in most people’s lives is minuscule.

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Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

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Yes, Jim, but for years, the last part of the Custom menu has been allusive to me. Joan’s thread has finally revealed it on the iPhone to me.?

In Oregon, auto registration and smog is every two years, and I could not find the modifier to set the repeat from annually, to every two years.?

Apple like to hide gawd d$*& things. Like Apple hides the X to close a Tab, but on one device puts it on the left and another on the right.?

Don’t believe me, look at the Apple keyboards, particularly the on-screen keyboards. Look at the placement of the special characters. Look at which key have - / ! &% $ ?and *. Now remember how some on-screen keyboards have both . and com appear with the lowercase letters when an e-ddress needs to be entered, but only a small percentage of the time.?

One of my passwords gets entered by muscle memory, EXCEPT that the two special characters move around. And so entering it becomes hunt and peck.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Nov 10, 2024, at 11:03, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

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Bev in TX wrote:
Repeat > Custom >
???Frequency: Weekly
???Every: 4 weeks
???Selected day of week as Wednesday
Which resulted in every 4 weeks on a Wednesday.

Brent wrote:
I did the same, on a Mac, without selecting the day of the week, and it still put the repeat event on the same day of the week, because that is how every 4 weeks, or every 28 days, works.

On the Mac, or the iPhone, it is possible to use “Custom”, and have a reminder appear, for example, on the 2nd Monday of each month.

I even have Reminders set for clock changes:
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1Password question

 

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I may be struggling with syntax, but whenever I update the “1Password for Safari” extension in the macOS App Store app, I’m asked to open Safari Settings, click on the 1Password Extension, then click on something called the “Page Settings Button” in the address bar (which I assume is the item containing the URL entry box), but I don’t ever see an interface element called the “Page Settings Button.” The purpose of doing this is to enable Safari to use the 1Password Extension on every website to which I navigate. The closest analog to that I can find in the settings for the 1PW extension is a checkbox that enables me to activate or de-activate Safari from working in Private Browsing.

What am I missing here? (I’m running macOS Sonoma on an M3 MacBook Pro, and the latest version of macOS 1Password 8.
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Re: Getting rid of Junk in Mail

 

Not that I have found, and it gives you one more chance to catch any mistakes before it is removed from the email server, making it unrecoverable.

And it is only two steps, select all and delete, if you skip the review step.

I trash few emails in normal reading, only deleting those caught in the Junk folder. If it weren’t for frequent errors by the filters that catch emails sent thru groups.io, I wouldn’t do a quick scan through those.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Nov 10, 2024, at 05:16, Joan Sax via groups.io <jsax@...> wrote:

?Is there any way to delete the contents of the Junk folder without the files migrating to ‘Trash’ where one has to ‘Select All’ once again to get rid of them?

Regards,
Joan






Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

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Bev in TX wrote:
Repeat > Custom >
???Frequency: Weekly
???Every: 4 weeks
???Selected day of week as Wednesday
Which resulted in every 4 weeks on a Wednesday.

Brent wrote:
I did the same, on a Mac, without selecting the day of the week, and it still put the repeat event on the same day of the week, because that is how every 4 weeks, or every 28 days, works.

On the Mac, or the iPhone, it is possible to use “Custom”, and have a reminder appear, for example, on the 2nd Monday of each month.

I even have Reminders set for clock changes:

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Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
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Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

Then tell me, how would you describe a 3 day or 5 day interval, if you call the others weekly, monthly and yearly?

The grammatical error of “daily every 28” is just an expedience by the programmer. And is parsed by the human brain just as easily as “weekly every 4”. At least it is a grammatical error in English, but is it, in say Spanish, French, German or other language?

English grammar is backwards from many languages of the world.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Nov 10, 2024, at 05:00, Joan Sax via groups.io <jsax@...> wrote:

?It does seem silly to have to put ‘daily’ in the custom section and then put in 28. In the English I’ve been using for over 8 decades ‘daily’ means every day, period!
Regards,
Joan






Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

It is sometimes more difficult to create events on an iPhone, or at least to discover where the settings are hidden on an iPhone, but I was able to do this under iOS 17.6.1.

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Nov 10, 2024, at 04:56, Joan Sax via groups.io <jsax@...> wrote:

Thanks, Jackie. That worked. I was setting it on an iPhone.
Regards,
Joan


Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

On Nov 10, 2024, at 04:07, Bev in TX via groups.io <countryone77@...> wrote:

It would help if you would list which device and OS version. Also, you didn’t say how you created the repeat?

On my iPad, iPadOS 18.1, I used:
Repeat > Custom >
Frequency: Weekly
Every: 4 weeks
Selected day of week as Wednesday
Which resulted in every 4 weeks on a Wednesday.
I did the same, on a Mac, without selecting the day of the week, and it still put the repeat event on the same day of the week, because that is how every 4 weeks, or every 28 days, works.


Re: Getting rid of Junk in Mail

 

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On Nov 10, 2024, at 10:19?AM, Jim Saklad via groups.io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

Right-Click on the Junk Mail mailbox and select “Erase Junk Mail”:

It would seem that some of us are romancing cheap Windows ecosystem keyboards with no “option” keycap labels, and others pledging fealty to two-button mice (“right-click.”)

Ducking ?,

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Re: Getting rid of Junk in Mail

 

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Joan Sax wrote:
Is there any way to delete the contents of the Junk folder without the files migrating to ‘Trash’ where one has to ‘Select All’ once again to get rid of them?

Right-Click on the Junk Mail mailbox and select “Erase Junk Mail”:




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Re: Getting rid of Junk in Mail

 

On Nov 10, 2024, at 7:39 AM, Bayswater via groups.io <Bayswater@...> wrote:

On a Mac, Alt-Delete usually does that.
Randy looks all over his Apple keyboard for the “Alt” key….and fails to find it.

I suspect that you mean the “Option” key.


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Re: Getting rid of Junk in Mail

 

On Sun, Nov 10, 2024 at 05:16 AM, Joan Sax wrote:
Is there any way to delete the contents of the Junk folder without the files migrating to ‘Trash’ where one has to ‘Select All’ once again to get rid of them?

Regards,
Joan
On a Mac, Alt-Delete usually does that. ?I don’t know if there is an equivalent in iOS


Getting rid of Junk in Mail

 

Is there any way to delete the contents of the Junk folder without the files migrating to ‘Trash’ where one has to ‘Select All’ once again to get rid of them?

Regards,
Joan


Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

It does seem silly to have to put ‘daily’ in the custom section and then put in 28. In the English I’ve been using for over 8 decades ‘daily’ means every day, period!
Regards,
Joan


Re: Calendar can’t count 4 weeks

 

Thanks, Jackie. That worked. I was setting it on an iPhone.
Regards,
Joan