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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet

 

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On Jan 17, 2024, at 11:50?AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

From what sites?

Just go back to the first post in the thread and click the link, Brent.

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Re: Configuring M2 Mac mini

 

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Wait until someone better informed than me, but I think not.?

It is going to use the internal SSD for several functions like short term RAM, long before it moves anything off to an external drive.?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 17, 2024, at 07:22, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@...> wrote:

?Can you get the same benefit from additional SSD by buying an external SSD to pair with a pre-configured machine? ?Thinking of buying a pre-configured machine from Costco which has better prices than Apple?

Thanks

Jay

On Jan 15, 2024, at 1:27 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:

I do agree that purchasing a bigger SSD than you need is a good idea. ?The extra capacity, even if you never come close to filling it up with data, will make the SSD live quite a bit longer.


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From what sites?

Brent

On my iPhone Xr

On Jan 17, 2024, at 03:38, Rick KC2FD <rick@...> wrote:

?Same blank print page from Safari here.?


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On Jan 17, 2024, at 8:22?AM, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@...> wrote:

Thinking of buying a pre-configured machine from Costco which has better prices than Apple?

One other benefit of purchasing from Costco is a longer timeframe for full refund (90 days for many electronics) if the purchase doesn’t work out!

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On Jan 17, 2024, at 4:38?AM, Rick KC2FD <rick@...> wrote:

Same blank print page from Safari here.?

So, at least I’m not an isolated orphan.

May I ask about your equipment and software?

I’ve noticed that on the “Daring (sorry about the previous misspelling) Gourmet’s website, elements from many pages (typically the transformation of the cursor to “click me” happen at a VERY leisurely pace (this on a laptop that goes from power on to desktop sign in in just about 10 seconds. I’ll bet it has something to do with the underlying html, but that’s as informed an opinion as an interpretation of the theory of general relativity from a 1st grader.

By the way, for the cooks among you try BAKING the recipe rather than just printing it. I did so yesterday and had to eat TWO!

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Can you get the same benefit from additional SSD by buying an external SSD to pair with a pre-configured machine? ?Thinking of buying a pre-configured machine from Costco which has better prices than Apple?

Thanks

Jay

On Jan 15, 2024, at 1:27 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:

I do agree that purchasing a bigger SSD than you need is a good idea. ?The extra capacity, even if you never come close to filling it up with data, will make the SSD live quite a bit longer.


Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet

 

Same blank print page from Safari here.?


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I’ve had similar problems. I didn’t bother trying to fix it. I usually copy and paste the recipe into a Word file, often as unformatted text so I can reduce the amount of paper real estate before printing.
Madeline

On Jan 16, 2024, at 17:13, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:

Oh and yes, I’m on Safari.

Becky?



On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:12?PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:

As a an old grandma-type cook and recipe collector I’ve been following this thread and finally broke down and gave it a try. All worked well - I’m on a MacBook Air Sonoma 14.2.1 / and an HP Envy 6000 series. ?I didn’t bother with pdf etc. ?I never do. ?I print a recipe or two every week and this looked good for my little collection.?

Becky?


On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:02?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
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Jim Robertson





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Oh and yes, I’m on Safari.

Becky?



On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:12?PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:

As a an old grandma-type cook and recipe collector I’ve been following this thread and finally broke down and gave it a try. All worked well - I’m on a MacBook Air Sonoma 14.2.1 / and an HP Envy 6000 series. ?I didn’t bother with pdf etc. ?I never do. ?I print a recipe or two every week and this looked good for my little collection.?

Becky?


On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:02?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--?
Jim Robertson




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As a an old grandma-type cook and recipe collector I’ve been following this thread and finally broke down and gave it a try. All worked well - I’m on a MacBook Air Sonoma 14.2.1 / and an HP Envy 6000 series. ?I didn’t bother with pdf etc. ?I never do. ?I print a recipe or two every week and this looked good for my little collection.?

Becky?


On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:02?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--?
Jim Robertson



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HI Jim,

The Sonoma is the Apple AirPrint driver. Catalina is the Brother CUPS driver.

On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:48 AM, jimrobertson via <jimrobertson@...> wrote:



On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:52?AM, Paul via <paul@...> wrote:

On my MacBook Pro 2014, running Catalina, Safari 15.6.1, following your link clicked their black print icon printed just fine to my Brother HL-L2390dw.

On my MacBook Pro M2, 2022, Sonoma 14.2.1 Safari 17.2.1 same printer printed fine.

Thanks so much, Paul. The “darring gourmet” blogger’s IT consultant suggested I just try File>Print from the Print Recipe Page. That generates a preview and hard copy output exactly as desired, suggesting to me that it’s something related to the coding of the page, or perhaps the Print driver that causes the anomalous result from my browser. Do you know if your Print Driver came with a macOS download or directly from Brother? (I don’t really know if they’d be different).

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On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:52?AM, Paul via groups.io <paul@...> wrote:

On my MacBook Pro 2014, running Catalina, Safari 15.6.1, following your link clicked their black print icon printed just fine to my Brother HL-L2390dw.

On my MacBook Pro M2, 2022, Sonoma 14.2.1 Safari 17.2.1 same printer printed fine.

Thanks so much, Paul. The “darring gourmet” blogger’s IT consultant suggested I just try File>Print from the Print Recipe Page. That generates a preview and hard copy output exactly as desired, suggesting to me that it’s something related to the coding of the page, or perhaps the Print driver that causes the anomalous result from my browser. Do you know if your Print Driver came with a macOS download or directly from Brother? (I don’t really know if they’d be different).

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HI Jim

On my MacBook Pro 2014, running Catalina, Safari 15.6.1, following your link clicked their black print icon printed just fine to my Brother HL-L2390dw.

On my MacBook Pro M2, 2022, Sonoma 14.2.1 Safari 17.2.1 same printer printed fine.

Paul
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On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:02 AM, jimrobertson via <jimrobertson@...> wrote:

I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--?
Jim Robertson



Printing from web page produces blank sheet

 

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I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material

I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.

I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.

Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:


I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.

Thanks so much,

For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--?
Jim Robertson


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On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:45?AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:

I’ve posted about such services on this list before.

I’ve used NoMoRobo on my home and business lines for many years now, and it works wonderfully.

Thanks so much, Randy. I don’t really know why, but Spectrum (from whom I obtain my cell service because it’s half the cost of the same infrastructure directly from Verizon) STRONGLY advocate AGAINST using NoMoRobo and FOR Hiya, which I’ve downloaded but not explored yet.

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On Jan 14, 2024, at 4:32 PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

Randy has compared them
I’ve posted about such services on this list before.

I’ve used NoMoRobo on my home and business lines for many years now, and it works wonderfully.

If you don’t like NoMoRobo, there are several such services, each of which offers a number of different features:

YouMail
Truecaller
RoboKiller
Mr. Number
Hiya

Some of these even do things like send a false message to the telemarketers that your line has been disconnected, so you are taken off their call list, and others allow you to get even with the spammers by wasting their time!

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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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Re: Are there better ways to delete persistent incoming spam calls?

 

On Jan 14, 2024, at 4:32 PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:

Randy has compared them
I’ve posted about such services on this list before.

I’ve used NoMoRobo on my home and business lines for many years now, and it works wonderfully.

If you don’t like NoMoRobo, there are several such services, each of which offers a number of different features:

YouMail
Truecaller
RoboKiller
Mr. Number
Hiya

Some of these even do things like send a false message to the telemarketers that your line has been disconnected, so you are taken off their call list, and others allow you to get even with the spammers by wasting their time!

__________________________________________________

Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

__________________________________________________


Re: Configuring M2 Mac mini

 

On Jan 14, 2024, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Buc <abuc@...> wrote:

I'm thinking I'd like to get 16GB of RAM and have the same amount of RAM I have now, but if the M2 Mac mini can somehow use RAM more efficiently, I'd be open to going for 8GB and saving the $200.
Unless you are working with HUGE files, and very high-end applications (e.g. humongous databases, 3D rendering, or editing movies), more than 8 GB of RAM is overkill with any of the silicon-based Macs:

Apple insists 8GB unified memory equals 16GB regular RAM


Opinion: Is the base MacBook Air M1/8GB powerful enough for you?


I do agree that purchasing a bigger SSD than you need is a good idea. The extra capacity, even if you never come close to filling it up with data, will make the SSD live quite a bit longer.
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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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Re: Free Software!

 

On Jan 14, 2024, at 3:04 PM, Julian Thomas <jt@...> wrote:

One question - I don’t see Apache Open Office. I’ve been using it since it was Star Office. Tried Libre Office but didn’t like UI as much as AOO. I use Pages &Keynote for new stuff but have a lot of legacy files; also AOO is available on the other operating system.

I didn’t list all of the OpenOffice siblings (LibreOffice, Apache OpenOffice, and NeoOffice) on my Free Software Web site, because they are all based on the same codebase. I listed LibreOffice, of the three, because it is currently the most advanced (at least in some respects) and most popular. Apache OpenOffice is the least advanced of the three.

I did mention all of the OpenOffice siblings on my Macintosh Word Processor site:

Macintosh Word Processors


Personally, I find ALL of the OpenOffice siblings to be a huge disappointment is that they still, after all these years, don’t do a really good job rendering complex Microsoft format files. In this regard, I find Free Office to be a much superior product.


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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice

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On Jan 14, 2024, at 1:45?PM, Andrew Buc <abuc@...> wrote:

Does this sound reasonable, or like overkill? I don't think I need the 10GB Ethernet.

I recently updated my laptop from a 2019 Core i7 (last Intel gen) 16” MacBook Pro to a new Core M3 14” MacBook Pro. My justifications: an almost-full 512 GB SSD, a desire to be able to use current generation applications, and a too-heavy shoulder bag when traveling with chargers for it, my iPad Pro, and my iPhone, along with accessories and reading materials and current projects.

However, it’s impressive to go from “Bong” to login in 10 seconds and never bogging down opening windows

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