Randy "et al;" thank you for your replies and your expert input.
Randy, thanks for the link. I just finished reading what you authored.

Rick

On Oct 30, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:

?Howdy.

I'm on macOS X 10.15.1 Catalina. Yesterday evening I updated from
macOS X 10.15 to 10.15.1.

I upgraded similarly this morning. Seems I spend 3 to 4 hours a week now upgrading an iMac and two iPads. I usually keep all devices up to date. Downloading takes little time but installing. You get box that states 40 minutes remaining, minute later 29 minutes remaining, ten minutes later it states estimating time remaining, which takes ten minutes. Then it states 29 minutes remaining. Slowly the number goes down but in no relation to time. Often goes down to one minute or less. Then takes 10 to 15 minutes to complete.
Bob

Howdy.

The United States FCC (Federal Communications Communication) has
apparently approved the new Mac Pro 2019 tower. This often means it
will shortly go on sale.

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Denver Dan


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Well, thankfully my trash is now emptied, after I foolishly , without thinking, sent the old Mac Pro backups to trash. There was about 2 years worth. After nothing worked, I decided to just let the trash try to empty itself on Saturday afternoon. It chugged away bravely till late yesterday afternoon, when It hit about 2 million files and stopped. At that point, I had about 6 months, from Sometime in April to sept 16 left in 49 folders.Now, I was able to do the delete immediately command to individual Folders. Last night I could do 2 at a time, and by this am, 4.

Now it is all finished..Phew..Yay! I am really pleased with how my new Imac handled this task. I should have know better, but just was not thinking . Two Mac pros ago, my backup would not delete when the disk was getting full. When I got the notice, I would have to manually delete, and it was a PITA! I almost always had to resort to Trash It! But this Imac just kept chugging along like the little engine that could until the job was done, and it saved me from reformatting and staring all over
Jeannie?

Howdy.

A bunch of Bug fixes, as usual with updates.

A very visible Siri Opt In screen during first access after update.
Apple was criticized for recording users' Siri requests then using the
recordings to improve Siri but not telling users of this.
You can open the Siri panel in System Preferences and in Siri History
you can Delete Siri & Dictation History from Apple servers as your
option.

New Emojis.

AirPod Pro support.

New things in Photos app including a new Metadata feature (in Photos
under the View menu).

Denver Dan


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Howdy.

I'm on macOS X 10.15.1 Catalina. Yesterday evening I updated from
macOS X 10.15 to 10.15.1.

This morning I tried some searches using Command f (Find).

The Spotlight indexing was suddenly including in search results a slew
of files in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup. Search
had not done that ever before.

For Mac newbies, the tilde (~/Library) character represents your Home
Account Library folder and not the other two Library folders.

The MobileSync/Backups folder is where the Mac keeps Backups of mobile
devices like iPhone and iPad. The subfolder names are gobbledegook and
no help in manually locating something.

Questions.

Is this something new?

Is it a Bug ?

Should MobileSync be added to the Exclude list in Time Machine panel?

Denver Dan

macOS X 10.15.1 Catalina
Mac Pro (late 2013) AKA Aubergine
16 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, Many externals


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On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 09:28 AM, Lyle Syverson wrote:

“ … In Apple Mail attachments are kept even when the message is deleted. … “

Where on my hard drive are these messages kept?

this article May help: ?

On Oct 29 Barry Austern, wrote:

“ … In Apple Mail attachments are kept even when the message is deleted. … “

Where on my hard drive are these messages kept?

Lyle Syverson
Mac mini (Late 2014)
10.14.6

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On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:01 PM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm@...> wrote:

I might like that weekly calendar rather than my monthly. Sounds good.

Meanwhile, in my fiddling something straightening out because I have just one mention of each US holiday now.

Thanks!

Becky

Hi!

I was going to wait until at least the first update at 10.15.01 at least. However, due to the general chatter about Catalina, I went ahead and upgraded a couple weeks after it was released. Today the 10.15.1 update came out and I upgraded to it.

In hindsight, there was no reason for me to wait. The upgrade from Mojave went without a burp, and everything seems to work ok. My boot drive is encrypted and there was no issue relating to that either.

SOME people do have serious problems, and I have no idea why. However, the vast majority of folks have no serious problems relating to the Catalina release of the macOS. The 10.15.1 release adds some functionality and a few bug fixes. Nothing earth shattering. Probably the best reason to upgrade would be better security against various forms of malware.

The ONLY recommendation that I have regarding upgrading/updating the OS is to BACKUP immediately to a bootable clone of a working drive BEFORE updating. Then worst case you just boot from the backup to get back to a working boot drive. Easy peasy.

On Oct 29, 2019, at 8:00 PM, ballyrick via Groups.Io <ballyrick@...> wrote:

Whenever I bought a new car, I usually waited until the new or updated model is about a year old.
I've remained equally patient with MAC OS software, hoping by the time I update, the bugs have been weeded out.
Since I am a relative newbie to the world of technology, I have no idea whether what I'm doing is prudent or not.

Bob ’The Beckster’ Beckham
FCC RadioTelephone Licence P1-6S-2422 w/Radar endorsement.
Apple iMac 27” Late 2012 - macOS 10.15.0 - RAM 16 Gig
2016 Harley-Davidson FLHTKL
1993 Allen MDS Theater 2

Hi Folks,
??? Randy's advice, as usual, is spot on. I have personally moved to the latest version of Firefox and eliminated all search engines except StartPage,
Ixquick and Duckduckgo. Firefox can be massively tailored to protect one's online privacy using the articles Randy referenced from restoreprivacy.com
and using those settings, one can give the hackers and scammers a good bit more challenge. I also recommend using a good VPN and strong passwords managed by a good password manager. I currently recommend ExpressVPN and 1password. Further, using Apple's encryption tool FileVault allows you
to encrypt all your disks both internal and external. Protecting one's privacy is a much bigger challenge than it was even five years ago, but the efforts, IMO, have a good ROI of your time.

JC

On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:00 PM, ballyrick via Groups.Io wrote:

I would love some input from those more experienced and knowledgeable.

I created an entire Web site devoted to this topic:

Upgrading To The Very Latest Macintosh Operating System


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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

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On Oct 29, 2019, at 7:02 AM, floridabouvs wrote:

So what else is good?

There are a lot of really good browsers out there now. I tend to really like:

Brave (free)

(Based on Chromium.)

Also very well regarded is:

WaterFox (free)

(Based on Mozilla, makers of FireFox.)

Have a look at this article about internet privacy and browsers:

I sometimes use Duck Duck Go when I don’t want google to make my choice by how much advertisers pay them.

DuckDuckGo is indeed private. But I've found DuckDuckGo searches to be quite a bit inferior to Google searches.

Instead I recommend:

StartPage


StartPage strips out all of your identifying information, and then submits your search to Google. So you get all of the benefits of a Google search, with none of the spyware.

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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

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On Oct 28, 2019, at 8:03 PM, nztours via Groups.Io wrote:

My understanding is that Opera was is now owned by the Chinese. If so you might want to rethink using it for financial business.

Why? What is it that you think that "the Chiinese" are going to be doing with your financial information?

Have you once ever heard of anybody having any problems from using Opera?

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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

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Whenever I bought a new car, I usually waited until the new or updated model is about a year old.
I've remained equally patient with MAC OS software, hoping by the time I update, the bugs have been weeded out.
Since I am a relative newbie to the world of technology, I have no idea whether what I'm doing is prudent or not.

But recently, I noticed that some members of both groups seem to be in no hurry to update.
As a matter of fact, a couple of contributors seem to be running one or two operating systems behind what is current.

I have Mojave and I'm waiting for a good time to install Catalina.
Please note, I use my MacBook Air for the basics, rarely more: e-mail, music, photos and just a few websites.?
Does the old adage apply? "If it ain`t broke don't try to fix it."

I would love some input from those more experienced and knowledgeable.

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I agree with Bob Beckham. I am not annoyed. What one chooses to do on one’s signature often has to do with one’s profession. For instance, I put Ph.D. at the end of my signature and was accused of vanity or showing off. I did that because I am a translator and in my day there was no professional degree in translation so the Ph.D. was a way of indicating that I knew what I was talking about so that I would get the translation job. I actually like photos, it does make more of a connection.?

Tim Meidroth wrote:

Excellent response from Jim Saklad in post 447.

Brent replied:

Tim, quoting a post number does not help. I assume you are on digest,?because finding a post by number in email is a pain. And it was Jim?Robertson.

Post #447 was my reply to Tiffany. I’m Jim Saklad.

We may be looking at different views. I’m looking at monthly - I could probably do well to switch to daily if I’m going to keep this up.

Becky