Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
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I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that?the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent?it to the trash. Jeannie
What kind of a backup is/was this? A clone, a Time Machine backup, something else?
I ask only because there is a (relatively) simple, safe way of deleting Time Machine backups. I got this from a website, and have used it many times in the past:
How to remove Time Machine backups Be careful with sudo and making sure you pick the correct Mac's files since there is no undo or confirmation of the following command: sudo tmutil delete /Volumes/drive_name/Backups.backupdb/old_mac_name The sudo command needs your password (and it won't echo to the screen, so just type it and pause to be sure you're deleting the correct files before pressing enter). If you want to be safer, you can pick one snapshot to delete first to be sure the command works as intended. This is nice since it could take hours to clean up some larger backup sets and you want to leave the Mac confident it's deleting the correct information store. You can use the tmutil tool to delete backups one by one. sudo tmutil delete /Volumes/drive_name/Backups.backupdb/mac_name/YYYY-MM-DD-hhmmss
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
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Otto Nikolaus wrote: If you want to try it anyway, be very careful in getting it right. Start up Applications > Utilities > Terminal and copy-paste this sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/ which?will prompt you for your password.?
Better yet : Open the Trash in Finder OpenTerminal Enter ?sudo rm -rf ? in Terminal Type a <space> after that Then, go the the open Trash folder and drag something you want to delete to the open Terminal window
This will add the file, and its exact filepath, to the command, so you can¡¯t possible make an error with that.
Then <Enter>, and provide your password.
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I'm putting this here instead of starting a separate thread. Additional machines because of Yahoo's announcement! I'm impressed that we haven't notice any slowdowns, just scheduled maintenance. For anyone who doesn't know, Mark Fletcher is the creator of groups.io and also created the mailing list service which eventually became part of Yahoo Groups. Otto
Changes to the site this week:
- INTERNAL: Various software changes and additional machines to deal with the extreme massive influx of new groups.
- NEW: For premium/enterprise groups on annual billing, we now send out a courtesy reminder two weeks before billing them.
- API: Added?
signature?to?member_info?object.
Have a good weekend everyone.
Mark
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Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation! On Oct 27, 2019, at 11:28, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc@...> Responded to: h
I use a wireless key board and track pad. I've found situations where a wired mouse has been essential, and I am reluctant not to have a wired keyboard [i don't usually use wireless kbds. ]
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
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Howdy. Boot in Safe Disk Mode. Then empty Trash. Denver Dan On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 10:17:47 -0600, Jeannie Girard wrote: It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of
the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run
empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under
400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn¡¯t work, I trued going in
to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if
there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had
deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it
for whatever.
I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30
day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I
should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro,
But it is done, and now I have to try a way to either get rid of it,
or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets
full.
I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to
do that. I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to
try it again.
If I can¡¯t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see
what they can do
Jeannie? [|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|] iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro
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Re: Screenshots and jpgs
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Howdy. Everything you ever wanted to know about ScreenShots but weren't afraid to ask. I haven't tried or tested the "A" part, changing Default File Format, for a couple of years. The Terminal can be very useful and can be used without learning complex Unix commands. Tip. You can copy Terminal commands and paste them into Terminal at the prompt. Copy from this message, copy from article on the web, etc. A. Change Default File Format of Screenshots. 1. Launch the Terminal app (found in Applications/Utilities). 2. Change the screenshot format to JPG, TIFF, GIF, PDF, or PNG. At the Terminal prompt, type in the command: defaults write com.apple.screencapture type followed by a space, then type the relevant format suffix. ... (JPG, or, TIFF, or GIF, or PDF, or, PNG). 3. Press Enter. -Note. Just use Quit command to end the Terminal session. B. How to Change the Default Location for Screenshots. -Create a folder for your screen captures. -Launch the Terminal app (found in Applications/Utilities). Make sure you can drag this new folder into the Terminal window after typing in the following command. -Type in the following command and then press the spacebar, but don't hit Enter just yet: defaults write com.apple.screencapture location -Now drag the folder you just created into the Terminal window. The folder's path should appear after the command you typed in. -Press Enter. -Note. Dragging a folder into the Terminal window is a way to create a path to that folder without typing that command into Terminal. C. Use Screenshot app. -macOS systems used to include an app called Grab.app that was for doing a variety of screen captures. -macOS now has an app named Screenshot.app for doing this. By default it's on the Dock unless removed by user in which case it will be in the Applications folder. A white square tilted icon. (Tip: Most of the apps included by Apple have tilted icons.) D. Article on screen caps and where to save. <> E. Article on the older keyboard commands for screen captures. <> F. Drag a jpg from a website to Desktop. If you are using Google Images, Google has changed the behavior. You may see a bunch of images after a search. Click one and it should appear in larger form on the right of the Google window. Do a right-click on that larger image and pick Save Image as... from the Contextual menu. Some web sites restrict doing this. Others may place a sort of clear image over the actual image so it doesn't work (not sure how to describe it) and then the Screencap.app can be used. G. System Preferences > Keyboard panel > Shortcuts tab. -Take a look here for specific info on the several keyboard commands like Shift Command 3. Good luck. Denver Dan On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 17:09:24 -0700, Doris wrote: On my old MacBookPro when I took a screenshot it would go to
desktop. On this machine it used to go to Dropbox and suddenly they
now to clipboard. I have no idea how to access clipboard.
I used to be able to pull off a jpg from website to desktop. Now it
"acts" like I am doing that but there is no image on my desktop.
Where is it going?
Doris
MacacBookPro 2018
Mojave 10.14.6 [|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|] iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
what happens when you right click on the item and select PUT BACK in finder?
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 04:16 PM, Jeannie Girard wrote:
I did a really dumb thing when I looked at my back up drive. I saw that the back up for my old Mac Pro was in there, and without thinking I sent it to the trash. Unfortunately there was no option to put it back and if I tried to drag it there, it just wanted to make a copy. I tried Trash it..didn¡¯t work. I tried delete immediately by trying to do one folder at a time, and that didn¡¯t work. If I can¡¯t get the old back up out of the trash, My new computer is in trouble. If I could only have the option of Putting it back, that should solve here problem, but I see no where to do that.
Any ideas of how, or a way to get my trash can emptied?
Jeannie?
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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 09:49 AM, Jim Saklad wrote:
When it's all done and working, ?maybe you will consider Apple certification, and start a second career fixing iMacs out there in the wilds of Montana.
Jim, I don't think I'll be fixing many iMacs in Montana. I live just outside Philadelphia.
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
If it's to free space, it uses the same whether it's in the Trash or where it was originally.?
I was going to suggest a Unix (Terminal) command, but I suspect that is what 'Trash It' uses.
If you want to try it anyway, be very careful in getting it right. Start up Applications > Utilities > Terminal and copy-paste this rm -rf ~/.Trash/?
then press enter.? If you get a permissions failure, try sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/
which?will prompt you for your password.?
It will not be instant?as there must be a huge number of files in there, so be patient.?
There *is* an option for Trash to empty automatically, but you need to select?it in Finder > Preferences > Advanced. That could be long wait, though. ;)
BTW how much free space do you have?
Otto
It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under 400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn¡¯t work, I trued going in to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it for whatever.?
I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30 day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro, But it is done, and now I have to try a way to ?either get rid of it, or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets full.?
I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to do that.? I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to try it again.?
If I can¡¯t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see what they can do
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
It is now located in my trash on my new iMac. I can not get it out of the trash. I have tried everything for 3 days.I let the computer run empty the trash since yesterday, and it only get up to a little under 400k and then stops. I tried Trash it, doesn¡¯t work, I trued going in to each file and doing a delete immediately. I had thought that if there were an option to put it back to the drive from which I had deleted it, then at least the trash would be empty and I could use it for whatever.?
I did read somewhere that things can only stay in the trash for 30 day. If that is a fact, I only have 27 days to go. I know now I should have never tried to delete the back up from my old Mac Pro, But it is done, and now I have to try a way to ?either get rid of it, or get it back and let the os get rid of it as the back up disk gets full.?
I also some some way to go into the registry, But I am not about to do that. ?I had a bad experience with that once, and am not about to try it again.?
If I can¡¯t fix this, I guess I will have to call Apple care and see what they can do
Jeannie?
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I'm sorry but I'm still confused.?
Get what "back to that external drive"? Where is it now??
Is "that old drive" another?drive??
Which Trash? On your computer?or on the external (or old?) drive? Each volume (drive or partition) has its own Trash, which not everyone realises.
I hope we can clarify this. ;) Otto Otto, I do not understand what you are saying. I have tried everything to get it back to that external drive. I was just trying to get rid of the backup from my old computer. I now I have new one. If I could return it back to the time machine on that old drive, my trash ?would then be empty, and I could use it to delete ?whatever needs to be deleted ?as I use my computer.? Please try to explain ?what ? I should do
Jeannie?
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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 09:15 AM, jimrobertson wrote:
But then I re-read David Myers initial post and realizes he wants to replace the drive and clean the inside of the screen as well. So, David, I¡¯d be very grateful for a postoperative report, estimating:
Jim, I plan on attempting this next weekend. I will post and let you know how I make out.?
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The more vendor and YouTube videos I watch, the more I think I can actually do all this myself, with enough time and patience.
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Not having started yet, one of the tips that I think I¡¯ll follow that¡¯s NOT listed on some of the videos is to test everything with the screen held in place by masking tape before applying the new adheseive strips. More than anything, the one step I want to do only once is the screen removal and replacement!
Jim Robertson
When it's all done and working, ?maybe you will consider Apple certification, and start a second career fixing iMacs out there in the wilds of Montana.
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David Myers wrote:
My plan is to boot to the clone backup drive and then format the new drive and copy the clone to the new SSD drive. I use a wireless key board and track pad. Do you know if these will work when I first turn on the computer after installing the new drive?
Sorry, I've mostly used laptops so I've never been without the built-in keyboard. I *think* so, because all the drivers and settings should be present on the clone you're booting from. Hopefully someone with relevant experience will answer. The very last things to do before shutting the computer down to disassemble it are to update the clone backup, and to test that backup by booting from it.
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On Oct 27, 2019, at 7:08 AM, David Myers via Groups.Io < myavid76@...> wrote:
First of all, be sure you know how to take it apart and put it back together. Second, decide for yourself if it is worth it to do that with a 2011 machine.
Still sitting on the fence regarding doing major surgery on my 2017 21.5¡± 4K iMac, I was all prepared to ask David to post after he¡¯d done the exenteration (that, for a surgeon, basically means removing most of the internal abdominal organs) and the facial surgery (removing and replacing the screen). Then I consulted MacTracker and discovered that back in 2011, Apple seemed to understand that mere mortals might want to work inside their machines, and actually DID supply an access door on them to replace the RAM with higher density modules.
But then I re-read David Myers initial post and realizes he wants to replace the drive and clean the inside of the screen as well. So, David, I¡¯d be very grateful for a postoperative report, estimating:
- How long it took, start to finish
- How many times you walked away from the table, cursing
- If there was any step you performed that made you think you¡¯d killed the computer, only to discover that you¡¯d actually done it successfully.
The more vendor and YouTUBE videos I watch, the more I think I can actually do all this myself, with enough time and patience. BUT, one thing I¡¯ve noticed is that virtually ALL the instructional videos leave things out, even differently-titled (RAM vs. SSD vs. rotating drive replacement) tend to leave out steps or do them in different order. Not having started yet, one of the tips that I think I¡¯ll follow that¡¯s NOT listed on some of the videos is to test everything with the screen held in place by masking tape before applying the new adheseive strips. More than anything, the one step I want to do only once is the screen removal and replacement!
Jim Robertson
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Re: Old back up in trash by mistake..Help!
#Mac
I'm sorry but I'm still confused.?
Get what "back to that external drive"? Where is it now??
Is "that old drive" another?drive??
Which Trash? On your computer?or on the external (or old?) drive? Each volume (drive or partition) has its own Trash, which not everyone realises.
I hope we can clarify this. ;) Otto
Otto, I do not understand what you are saying. I have tried everything to get it back to that external drive. I was just trying to get rid of the backup from my old computer. I now I have new one. If I could return it back to the time machine on that old drive, my trash ?would then be empty, and I could use it to delete ?whatever needs to be deleted ?as I use my computer.? Please try to explain ?what ? I should do
Jeannie?
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 07:46 PM, Barry Austern wrote:
First of all, be sure you know how to take it apart and put it back together. Second, decide for yourself if it is worth it to do that with a 2011 machine.
Barry, Thanks for your reply. I have 35 years experience as an Elevator mechanic, so I feel confident that this is a task that I can accomplish. And yes it is well worth it for me to keep this computer going. The parts from OWC were about $150 US. I plan to use this computer for as long as it fulfills my needs.
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? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Initially, before cloning the clone backup back to the new SSD, <Option> wil NOT show you the SSD. Once it has a working OS on it, it will.
Jim, Thanks for your response. My plan is to boot to the clone backup drive and then format the new drive and copy the clone to the new SSD drive. I use a wireless key board and track pad. Do you know if these will work when I first turn on the computer after installing the new drive?
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Re: Shut Down/Restart Problem
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On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 at 01:24, Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote:
I just used Control-Option-Command-F12 (marked as also being the eject key on my Matias keyboard)
and my Mac did an orderly shutdown!
F12 is immediately adjacent to Eject on my MBP so that makes sense.
Otto
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Re: Screenshots and jpgs
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Try this from iMore: How to choose a save location for screenshots and screen recordings on macOS Mojave Although you can choose from a limited set of locations to save your screenshots and recordings after you make them, you can also pre-select a destination beforehand. - Press?Command + Shift + 5?on your keyboard to bring up the screenshot toolbar.
- Click?Options.
Select?Desktop,?Documents,?Clipboard,?Mail,?Messages, or?Preview?under Save to to set a save location. Pat
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On Oct 26, 2019, at 10:29 PM, Doris <untoldexpressions@...> wrote:
? I am doing?cmd-shift-4 ?but not control, only?cmd-shift-4.
I found the clipboard but nothing is in/on it.
How can I get to go back to putting screenshots on desktop, or even in Dropbox?
So did a screenshot just now and in clipboard it says ? - Screenshot %202019-10-26%2021.26.33.png?dl=0 or something like that.? No actual screenshot. Nothing I can copy or move.
I don't understand this. On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 6:55 PM Dave Kelly via Groups.Io <drkelly= [email protected]> wrote:
On my old MacBookPro when I took a screenshot it would go to desktop.? On this machine it used to go to Dropbox and suddenly they now to clipboard. I have no idea how to access clipboard.
I used to be able to pull off a jpg from website to desktop.? Now it "acts" like I am doing that but there is no image on my desktop.? Where is it going? Doris? MacacBookPro 2018 Mojave 10.14.6
What keys are you using to create a screen shot?? I just did cmd-shift-4 and selected the area I wanted and it saved to the desktop. If you do cmd-shift-4 and control then it goes to the clipboard. In Finder¡¯s Edit menu you can ¡°Show Clipboard¡± to see what¡¯s there or you could just paste into a document.
Dave?
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Re: Screenshots and jpgs
#Mac
I am doing?cmd-shift-4 ?but not control, only?cmd-shift-4.
I found the clipboard but nothing is in/on it.
How can I get to go back to putting screenshots on desktop, or even in Dropbox?
So did a screenshot just now and in clipboard it says ? - Screenshot %202019-10-26%2021.26.33.png?dl=0 or something like that.? No actual screenshot. Nothing I can copy or move.
I don't understand this.
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 6:55 PM Dave Kelly via Groups.Io <drkelly= [email protected]> wrote:
On my old MacBookPro when I took a screenshot it would go to desktop.? On this machine it used to go to Dropbox and suddenly they now to clipboard. I have no idea how to access clipboard.
I used to be able to pull off a jpg from website to desktop.? Now it "acts" like I am doing that but there is no image on my desktop.? Where is it going? Doris? MacacBookPro 2018 Mojave 10.14.6
What keys are you using to create a screen shot?? I just did cmd-shift-4 and selected the area I wanted and it saved to the desktop. If you do cmd-shift-4 and control then it goes to the clipboard. In Finder¡¯s Edit menu you can ¡°Show Clipboard¡± to see what¡¯s there or you could just paste into a document.
Dave?
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