Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet - the site redux
On my M1 Max Mac Studio (Sonoma): Open in Safari, then “Print to PDF” gives me a normal-looking PDF finle, that looks fine when I read it in Quicklook or a PDF reader. Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:
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I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.
--? Jim Saklad jimdoc@...
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
On Jan 17, 2024, at 12:25?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
And is that the same siteS Rick is having problems with. If so the site might be the problem. If not, it might be the browser.?
No offense intended, Brent, but I’m pretty sure everyone in the thread has had no difficulty understanding that we ARE talking about one single site, and that the active discussion already centers on whether the issue is with the site or the browser. Thus far, it’s unresolved, because SOME people can print from the same site on the same version of macOS and with Safari as the browser.
Rick has confirmed the issue from the same site, albeit with an unknown version of Safari, unknown version of macOS, and unknown hardware. Madeline has confirmed she’s encountered a similar issue on other sites attempting to print from Safari.
Root cause is as yet unidentified, but solutions have been.
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
And is that the same siteS Rick is having problems with. If so the site might be the problem. If not, it might be the browser.?
I was suggesting a little diagnostics that might help.
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On Jan 17, 2024, at 11:07, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
? On Jan 17, 2024, at 11:50?AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
From what sites?
Just go back to the first post in the thread and click the link, Brent.
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet - the site redux
I don't know but it looks yummy!!!
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On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 11:19?AM Becky Lindroos < bekah0176@...> wrote: Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:
I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.
Thanks so much,
?
-- Janet
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet - the site redux
Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:
I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.
Thanks so much,
?
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
On Jan 17, 2024, at 11:50?AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
From what sites?
Just go back to the first post in the thread and click the link, Brent.
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Configuring M2 Mac mini
Wait until someone better informed than me, but I think not.?
It is going to use the internal SSD for several functions like short term RAM, long before it moves anything off to an external drive.?
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On Jan 17, 2024, at 07:22, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@...> wrote:
? Can you get the same benefit from additional SSD by buying an external SSD to pair with a pre-configured machine? ?Thinking of buying a pre-configured machine from Costco which has better prices than Apple?
Thanks
Jay On Jan 15, 2024, at 1:27 AM, Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote:
I do agree that purchasing a bigger SSD than you need is a good idea. ?The extra capacity, even if you never come close to filling it up with data, will make the SSD live quite a bit longer.
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Re: Configuring M2 Mac mini
On Jan 17, 2024, at 8:22?AM, Jay Abraham <jaygroups@...> wrote:
Thinking of buying a pre-configured machine from Costco which has better prices than Apple?
One other benefit of purchasing from Costco is a longer timeframe for full refund (90 days for many electronics) if the purchase doesn’t work out!
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
On Jan 17, 2024, at 4:38?AM, Rick KC2FD <rick@...> wrote:
Same blank print page from Safari here.?
So, at least I’m not an isolated orphan.
May I ask about your equipment and software?
I’ve noticed that on the “Daring (sorry about the previous misspelling) Gourmet’s website, elements from many pages (typically the transformation of the cursor to “click me” happen at a VERY leisurely pace (this on a laptop that goes from power on to desktop sign in in just about 10 seconds. I’ll bet it has something to do with the underlying html, but that’s as informed an opinion as an interpretation of the theory of general relativity from a 1st grader.
By the way, for the cooks among you try BAKING the recipe rather than just printing it. I did so yesterday and had to eat TWO!
--? Jim Robertson
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Can you get the same benefit from additional SSD by buying an external SSD to pair with a pre-configured machine? ?Thinking of buying a pre-configured machine from Costco which has better prices than Apple?
Thanks
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On Jan 15, 2024, at 1:27 AM, Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote:
I do agree that purchasing a bigger SSD than you need is a good idea. ?The extra capacity, even if you never come close to filling it up with data, will make the SSD live quite a bit longer.
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
Same blank print page from Safari here.?
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
I’ve had similar problems. I didn’t bother trying to fix it. I usually copy and paste the recipe into a Word file, often as unformatted text so I can reduce the amount of paper real estate before printing.
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On Jan 16, 2024, at 17:13, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote: Oh and yes, I’m on Safari.
Becky?
On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:12?PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
As a an old grandma-type cook and recipe collector I’ve been following this thread and finally broke down and gave it a try. All worked well - I’m on a MacBook Air Sonoma 14.2.1 / and an HP Envy 6000 series. ?I didn’t bother with pdf etc. ?I never do. ?I print a recipe or two every week and this looked good for my little collection.?
Becky? On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:02?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material
I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.
I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.
Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:
I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.
Thanks so much,
For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
Oh and yes, I’m on Safari.
Becky?
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On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:12?PM, Becky Lindroos <bekah0176@...> wrote:
As a an old grandma-type cook and recipe collector I’ve been following this thread and finally broke down and gave it a try. All worked well - I’m on a MacBook Air Sonoma 14.2.1 / and an HP Envy 6000 series. ?I didn’t bother with pdf etc. ?I never do. ?I print a recipe or two every week and this looked good for my little collection.?
Becky? On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:02?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material
I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.
I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.
Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:
I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.
Thanks so much,
For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
As a an old grandma-type cook and recipe collector I’ve been following this thread and finally broke down and gave it a try. All worked well - I’m on a MacBook Air Sonoma 14.2.1 / and an HP Envy 6000 series. ?I didn’t bother with pdf etc. ?I never do. ?I print a recipe or two every week and this looked good for my little collection.?
Becky?
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On Jan 16, 2024, at 12:02?PM, jimrobertson via groups.io <jimrobertson@...> wrote:
I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material
I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.
I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.
Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:
I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.
Thanks so much,
For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
HI Jim,
The Sonoma is the Apple AirPrint driver. Catalina is the Brother CUPS driver.
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On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:52?AM, Paul via < paul@...> wrote:
On my MacBook Pro 2014, running Catalina, Safari 15.6.1, following your link clicked their black print icon printed just fine to my Brother HL-L2390dw.
On my MacBook Pro M2, 2022, Sonoma 14.2.1 Safari 17.2.1 same printer printed fine.
Thanks so much, Paul. The “darring gourmet” blogger’s IT consultant suggested I just try File>Print from the Print Recipe Page. That generates a preview and hard copy output exactly as desired, suggesting to me that it’s something related to the coding of the page, or perhaps the Print driver that causes the anomalous result from my browser. Do you know if your Print Driver came with a macOS download or directly from Brother? (I don’t really know if they’d be different).
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:52?AM, Paul via groups.io <paul@...> wrote:
On my MacBook Pro 2014, running Catalina, Safari 15.6.1, following your link clicked their black print icon printed just fine to my Brother HL-L2390dw.
On my MacBook Pro M2, 2022, Sonoma 14.2.1 Safari 17.2.1 same printer printed fine.
Thanks so much, Paul. The “darring gourmet” blogger’s IT consultant suggested I just try File>Print from the Print Recipe Page. That generates a preview and hard copy output exactly as desired, suggesting to me that it’s something related to the coding of the page, or perhaps the Print driver that causes the anomalous result from my browser. Do you know if your Print Driver came with a macOS download or directly from Brother? (I don’t really know if they’d be different).
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Printing from web page produces blank sheet
HI Jim
On my MacBook Pro 2014, running Catalina, Safari 15.6.1, following your link clicked their black print icon printed just fine to my Brother HL-L2390dw.
On my MacBook Pro M2, 2022, Sonoma 14.2.1 Safari 17.2.1 same printer printed fine.
Paul
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I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material
I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.
I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.
Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:
I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.
Thanks so much,
For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--? Jim Robertson
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Printing from web page produces blank sheet
I’m a “paint by number” cook. My mom did everything from scratch (including grinding her own meat using a long-armed fulcrum hand grinder she’d bolt to her prep table, making her own candy cooking the sugar to “soft ball” or “hard ball” consistency (I remember but haven’t the foggiest idea what it meant.” Her desserts were fabulous (in her late 80s, she and my spouse almost came to blows—OK it was “all in fun.” but they were both dead serious, about just which one of them would be entitled to that last piece of one of her chocolate cherry cakes), but she was limited by what was available in Michigan’s frozen north. Spinach, for example, was awful, slimy stuff that came from a can. And, she assassinated meat. Anything less than overly well done was undercooked in her opinion. Thanksgiving turkeys were SO dry that they could almost be used as building material
I’m about to make my first Cornish Pastys (delicious meat-pie lunch staple for 18th and 19th century shaft miners, brought in the 19th century principally to Copper Mines in MT and Iron/Copper mines in Michigan’s UP (where I grew up, and where my mom made them frequently). Every little village in the “U.P,” had bakeries that would make delicious pastys.
I settled on a recipe (not my mom’s) yesterday on the web, but printing the recipe from Safari was not possible (my Brother LW-L5200DW would just spew blank sheets, and even “save to PDF” produced the same result (a blank document < 1 KB in size). However, printing from Chrome gave the desired result, faithfully reproducing the identical visible print preview in Safari and Chrome. Curiously, in Safari the print dialog DID show miniature previews of the pages in the left sidebar but the data didn’t make it into the print or saved PDF.
Here’s the URL. I’d be grateful if a few ‘listas would try to sort out if this is a Safari problem, or a macOS problem, or a printer software compatibility problem:
I’m on a current generation 14” M3 Pro MacBook Pro running current Sonoma OS.
Thanks so much,
For the gourmands who’ve never been to the U.P., these are DELiCIOUS, by the way.
--? Jim Robertson
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Re: Are there better ways to delete persistent incoming spam calls?
On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:45?AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
I’ve posted about such services on this list before.
I’ve used NoMoRobo on my home and business lines for many years now, and it works wonderfully.
Thanks so much, Randy. I don’t really know why, but Spectrum (from whom I obtain my cell service because it’s half the cost of the same infrastructure directly from Verizon) STRONGLY advocate AGAINST using NoMoRobo and FOR Hiya, which I’ve downloaded but not explored yet.
--? Jim Robertson
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