Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura
Hi
St Clare software. Go64 is a free app that will determine the 32 bits programs.
One option is to make a clone, remove them and then do the migration.
But yes Migration Assistant will separate the apps and let you know about unsupported.
The rules in Mail is tricky. I have seen both results- the rules came through on two machines when I upgraded to Big Sur. I don’t think they did when we upgraded to Monterey.
Paul
Sent from my iPhone. Some imagination required.
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On Dec 2, 2023, at 6:11?PM, Tony Troiano <oraziofotografik@...> wrote:
?When using Migration Assistant to transfer information from a drive running Sierra to one running Ventura is it possible to exclude 32 bit applications and all files relating to those apps from the transfer in that they will not run on the newer operating system. Also, what is the best method to identify and list all 32 bit apps running on a computer without having to check each one individually?
This is quite a jump in operating systems. Under Sierra I have a lot of archived email set up in AppleMail which I have filtered into many mailboxes. Can I expect all the content in AppleMail to transfer over to Ventura faithfully with the Rules I set up intact?
This is the first time I am using Migration Assistant and I’m a bit nervous about doing it incorrectly. Many thanks for any and all advice.
—Tony Troiano—
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Re: Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura
Tony Troiano wrote: When using Migration Assistant to transfer information from a drive running Sierra to one running Ventura is it possible to exclude 32 bit applications and all files relating to those apps from the transfer in that they will not run on the newer operating system.
Also, what is the best method to identify and list all 32 bit apps running on a computer without having to check each one individually?
The app is Go64: <>
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Using Migration Assistant ? Sierra to Ventura
When using Migration Assistant to transfer information from a drive running Sierra to one running Ventura is it possible to exclude 32 bit applications and all files relating to those apps from the transfer in that they will not run on the newer operating system. Also, what is the best method to identify and list all 32 bit apps running on a computer without having to check each one individually?
This is quite a jump in operating systems. Under Sierra I have a lot of archived email set up in AppleMail which I have filtered into many mailboxes. Can I expect all the content in AppleMail to transfer over to Ventura faithfully with the Rules I set up intact?
This is the first time I am using Migration Assistant and I’m a bit nervous about doing it incorrectly. Many thanks for any and all advice.
—Tony Troiano—
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Re: Setting up Brother Laser Printer?
Thank you, Todhop and Paul.? One of the instructions said I needed a cable temporarily for setup. I didn't have this cable and it took a few days to borrow one.? When I tried again, the printer set up?properly without needing the cable.? It's working now (knock knock).
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Thanks. I know, the difficulty of uninstalling Sophos is part of the barrier to getting rid of it. ?? I seem to recall having done it several times in the past, for some reason. I think Sophos was inconsistent with at least one OS update I did and that was a big PITA.
Appreciate the advice and help.
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On Nov 30, 2023, at 12:59?PM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
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On Nov 30, 2023, at 4:04 AM, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
Thanks for the valuable info, Randy. I've had Sophos for so long that I have an automatic disincentive to switching. But I'll certainly think about it now. Do you know what would happen if I installed VirusBarrier now, on top of Sophos? Would there be some sort of conflict? I’m sure that it wouldn’t, because Virus Barrier doesn’t install anything deep in your System, so there would be nothing to cause a conflict. But the point is that Sophos is like a time bomb on your system and shouldn’t be there for any reason. I think of Sophos as being WORSE than having malware.
You can’t uninstall Sophos by simply dragging its icon to the trash. Here are the instructions for uninstalling it:
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Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Nov 30, 2023, at 4:04 AM, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
Thanks for the valuable info, Randy. I've had Sophos for so long that I have an automatic disincentive to switching. But I'll certainly think about it now. Do you know what would happen if I installed VirusBarrier now, on top of Sophos? Would there be some sort of conflict? I’m sure that it wouldn’t, because Virus Barrier doesn’t install anything deep in your System, so there would be nothing to cause a conflict. But the point is that Sophos is like a time bomb on your system and shouldn’t be there for any reason. I think of Sophos as being WORSE than having malware. You can’t uninstall Sophos by simply dragging its icon to the trash. Here are the instructions for uninstalling it: __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Thanks for the valuable info, Randy. I've had Sophos for so long that I have an automatic disincentive to switching. But I'll certainly think about it now. Do you know what would happen if I installed VirusBarrier now, on top of Sophos? Would there be some sort of conflict?
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 8:59?PM Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:50 AM, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
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> Thanks for the idea and the link! I have the *paid* version of Sophos and so far (5+ years?) have trusted it. But I’d be very curious to see if the free malware bytes can find something that Sophos didn’t.
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> I’m a little afraid to get on their spam mailing list, though….will think about it!
Personally, I try my best to ward people away from BOTH Sophos, and Malwarebytes.
I try to keep people away from Sophos because I hear from an inordinate number of folks who, after we have done some troubleshooting, we find that their slowdowns were being caused by Sophos.? It’s not all Sophos users, but it’s a shocking number of them.? There are better anti-virus programs.? The one that I recommend wins all of the believable comparison tests, and is FREE:
VirusBarrier Free Edition (free)
I recommend that folks stay away from Malwarebytes for a list of reasons.? They have had dishonest advertising, their free product includes adware, and the products install a very alarmingly large number of files deep into your System.
Malwarebytes often DOES sometimes find things that traditional AV products don’t, because traditional AV products tend to be weak with respect to adware.? However, fortunately there is an almost identical product to Malwarebytes that comes from a company that it is much easier to trust:
DetectX (free)
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Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Tony M via groups.io <nyrngrz@...> wrote:
Another device on the network is using your computer’s IP address How to fix your network when you see ‘Another device is using your IP address’ on a Mac __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:50 AM, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
Thanks for the idea and the link! I have the *paid* version of Sophos and so far (5+ years?) have trusted it. But I’d be very curious to see if the free malware bytes can find something that Sophos didn’t.
I’m a little afraid to get on their spam mailing list, though….will think about it! Personally, I try my best to ward people away from BOTH Sophos, and Malwarebytes. I try to keep people away from Sophos because I hear from an inordinate number of folks who, after we have done some troubleshooting, we find that their slowdowns were being caused by Sophos. It’s not all Sophos users, but it’s a shocking number of them. There are better anti-virus programs. The one that I recommend wins all of the believable comparison tests, and is FREE: VirusBarrier Free Edition (free) I recommend that folks stay away from Malwarebytes for a list of reasons. They have had dishonest advertising, their free product includes adware, and the products install a very alarmingly large number of files deep into your System. Malwarebytes often DOES sometimes find things that traditional AV products don’t, because traditional AV products tend to be weak with respect to adware. However, fortunately there is an almost identical product to Malwarebytes that comes from a company that it is much easier to trust: DetectX (free) __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 8:41?PM, Christopher Collins via groups.io <maclist@...> wrote:
? You should always force an update before you start doing a specific scan.
You seem to be taking a lot on trust.
cjc On 30 Nov 2023, at 12:44 pm, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
I think it updates automatically. I've never purposely updated it. On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 5:37?PM Christopher Collins via ??<maclist= [email protected]> wrote: Did you update Sophia before you ran the scan??
cjc
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.?
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.?
Thanks for any info.
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
You should always force an update before you start doing a specific scan.
You seem to be taking a lot on trust.
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On 30 Nov 2023, at 12:44 pm, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
I think it updates automatically. I've never purposely updated it. On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 5:37?PM Christopher Collins via ??<maclist= [email protected]> wrote: Did you update Sophia before you ran the scan??
cjc
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.?
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.?
Thanks for any info.
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
I think it updates automatically. I've never purposely updated it. On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 5:37?PM Christopher Collins via <maclist= [email protected]> wrote:
Did you update Sophia before you ran the scan??
cjc
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info.
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Did you update Sophia before you ran the scan??
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On 30 Nov 2023, at 5:06 am, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info.
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 02:41 PM, Brent wrote:
The Apple OS that you won’t tell me about
I told you my OS twice LOL. And yes, I was guessing that it prevented the download and that's why Sophos didn't find it. Said all of that a couple of times. Thanks for your help. ? -- Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Nov 29, 2023, at 13:20, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
About an hour later the warning popped up, which looked like it had something to do with Apple ("Apple Defender"). I surmised that possibly the email downloaded malware (because I didn't stop the download in time) and the Apple protection software you constantly speak of later detected it.
As I said, I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1.
As for the content of the email and what they wanted, I did not even get a glimpse of the content. When I saw the download start I'd seen enough and I dumped it. A human cannot react fast enough to beat a computer. It was probably not a download, but phoning home, found another victim. There is no Apple Defense or Defender. It sounds like the push notification I have sent information on. Read the article and follow its instructions. Sonora has the strongest viral protection, yet. Brent On my iPhone Xr
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
The Apple OS that you won’t tell me about, most likely prevented a download. So you won’t find it, like I assume Sophos told you. You can't find something that is not there
Like I said, there are 3 kinds of threats.?
Viral, dig thru the recent archives for Randy Singer’s comments on third party AV apps, especially Sophos.?
Adware, usually from untrustworthy sites, but previously know trustworthy sites are getting infected. They do no damage, they just annoy.?
And the latest new threat, push notifications thru browsers. Read the following to combat this:
How to Identify and Eliminate Abusive Web Notifications
If anything you got hit with the last threat. It currently is mostly used to promote AV products, surprisingly, real and fraudulent. McAffe most notably.?
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:52, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
? It was not necessarily an email but that’s what I concluded. In any event, if it was the email, it seems to have downloaded something - maybe I didn’t stop the download in time. The warning appeared about an hour after I opened the email. So how do I now detect and get rid of whatever was downloaded?Yes. It was a mistake to open the email. I haven’t done that in years, normally very suspicious. On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:47?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be…
It came in an email, so no very urgent, but the message was urgent. Fake!
It was not an ad, but an email. Fake!
There is a new threat that neither anti-viral and adware cannot detect. It is push notifications through a browser. The way to deal with that is to turn off push notifications is browser prefs, settings and extensions.
But this was an email not a push notification. So, delete the email and forget it.
The worst that you did was to possibly verify that your e-dress is active.
Don’t open suspected spam emails. Just delete them. If you really think it might be real from known source, contact the source independently, without opening it. Like by phone. Otherwise delete it. ?
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Sorry for the perceived lack of clarity.
As I attempted to explain, 1.? I opened a suspicious email.? It started to download something. I immediately closed and dumped the email, presumably (hopefully at that time) before the download concluded. 2. About an hour later the warning popped up, which looked like it had something to do with Apple ("Apple Defender"). I surmised that possibly the email downloaded malware (because I didn't stop the download in time) and the Apple protection software you constantly speak of later detected it.
As I said, I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma? 14.1.1.
As for the content of the email and what they wanted, I did not even get a glimpse of the content. When I saw the download start I'd seen enough and I dumped it.
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:34, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
ps of course no remote scanning. But I think the notice is made to look like it’s coming from the built-in Apple protection you frequently talk about. Right in your first paragraph, you said it was a suspicious email, so how could it look like a warning from Apple? Yes, they tried to use social engineering, poorly. But your first question as you are looking at it is why are they sending this to me, followed by what do they want from me?
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Where does Apple recommend any AV or Adware app??
It was not an ad. It was email. Malwarebytes deals with adware.?
What device and what OS was this on, so I ?can get an idea of the built-in AV you have.?
Btw, my early 2008 MBP, running 10.7.5 has never had a virus, and it has no added AV app. In over 20 years, the only virus I have had, was a MS Word macro virus, on a Classic Macintosh, running System 7. It was part of a Word doc, I downloaded. I deleted the doc to remove the virus.?
The only time I ran an AV app, was when work required that I have an AV app for anything I imported to their Windows based system. I don’t know that an app for a Mac would detect a virus for a Windows network. ?
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:32, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
? Right, Brent, you mentioned that before about not needing anything extra. But David says Apple recommends malware bytes (?) and also, what caused the fake notice and how do I prevent it (and things like it) in future if its not considered a threat? Or are you possibly saying the built-in apple protection quickly got rid of it before my Sophos scan could even find it? On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:17?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
? Your computer cannot be scanned for viruses remotely, and definitely without you authorizing it.?
So basically it is never real, if you haven’t installed an AV app. Modern Apple OSes don’t need third party AV apps, as they are built into the OS. ? On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
? This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info.
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
It was not necessarily an email but that’s what I concluded. In any event, if it was the email, it seems to have downloaded something - maybe I didn’t stop the download in time. The warning appeared about an hour after I opened the email. So how do I now detect and get rid of whatever was downloaded?
Yes. It was a mistake to open the email. I haven’t done that in years, normally very suspicious.
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be… It came in an email, so no very urgent, but the message was urgent. Fake!
It was not an ad, but an email. Fake!
There is a new threat that neither anti-viral and adware cannot detect. It is push notifications through a browser. The way to deal with that is to turn off push notifications is browser prefs, settings and extensions.
But this was an email not a push notification. So, delete the email and forget it.
The worst that you did was to possibly verify that your e-dress is active.
Don’t open suspected spam emails. Just delete them. If you really think it might be real from known source, contact the source independently, without opening it. Like by phone. Otherwise delete it.
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