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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Your computer cannot be scanned for viruses remotely, and definitely without you authorizing it.?
So basically it is never real, if you haven¡¯t installed an AV app. Modern Apple OSes don¡¯t need third party AV apps, as they are built into the OS. ?
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
? This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info.
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Hi Janet
I found the detail about the fake warning on-line. I have never had it myself. I posted it for your information.
Malwarebytes has been in my toolbox, as it were, since its inception - 2008 IIRC.
Apple Support recommends the use of Malwarebytes.
It¡¯s your call now!
David.
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On 29 Nov 2023, at 19:59, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
But did you also get the fake warning? I thought you just found that online somewhere and posted it here for my information. If you got it, and your malwarebytes scan found nothing, I¡¯m going to trust Sophos also having found nothing in both the quick and full versions of their scan.
Thanks!
On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:54?AM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
?After I¡¯d email you, Janet, I downloaded, installed and ran Malwarebytes.
Here¡¯s a screenshot of my result:-
I hope this helps and that you get a similar result!
David
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
But did you also get the fake warning? I thought you just found that online somewhere and posted it here for my information. If you got it, and your malwarebytes scan found nothing, I¡¯m going to trust Sophos also having found nothing in both the quick and full versions of their scan.
Thanks!
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:54?AM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
?After I¡¯d email you, Janet, I downloaded, installed and ran Malwarebytes.
Here¡¯s a screenshot of my result:-
I hope this helps and that you get a similar result!
David
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
After I¡¯d email you, Janet, I downloaded, installed and ran Malwarebytes.
Here¡¯s a screenshot of my result:-
I hope this helps and that you get a similar result!
David
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Thanks for the idea and the link! I have the *paid* version of Sophos and so far (5+ years?) have trusted it. But I¡¯d be very curious to see if the free malware bytes can find something that Sophos didn¡¯t.?
I¡¯m a little afraid to get on their spam mailing list, though¡.will think about it!
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:45?AM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
? Hi Janet
I don¡¯t think you should be too concerned, but in your situation I would download and run the FREE version of Malwarebytes.
You can find the Official Link towards the bottom of this page:-?
Install and then run a scan. It¡¯s very fast.
Good luck! ?
David
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Hi Janet
I don¡¯t think you should be too concerned, but in your situation I would download and run the FREE version of Malwarebytes.
You can find the Official Link towards the bottom of this page:-?
Install and then run a scan. It¡¯s very fast.
Good luck! ?
David
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 11:16 AM, J_Catlady wrote:
or some kind of thread
should read "some kind of threat" ? -- Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Oddly, although every reference I've found on this says it's malware (or some kind of thread - possibly not technically "malware"), Sophos didn't find any threats. And the vast majority of the sites describing it may THEMSELVES be scams, just trying to get you to click on THEM to remove it, or to buy their protection software. It's a hall of mirrors out there. Some of them say it's not ok to "just ignore it" because it's "opened a back door" to your computer. Is there any truth in these warnings, or is it ok to just ignore it, as I did (I just closed the window)? Maybe I should at least clear my browser cache?
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Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Thanks, David. Yes, that was it. Hopefully Sophos will find and remove it?
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Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
This looks like it may be helpful:- |
Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
I just found this:
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Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info.
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Janet
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I have been getting the following message lately. What does this mean?
Another device on the network is using your computer¡¯s IP address (10.0.0.127).
Try connecting again later. If you continue to have problems, change the IP address of this computer or the IP address of the other device. Contact the network administrator if you need more information.
Tony M
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
So that is what TRIM does. TRIM and over-provisioning are different things. (computing) __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
What does ¡°overprovisioning¡± mean¡ __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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?So that is what TRIM does.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 06:17, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 5:20 AM, DaveC via groups.io <davec2468@...> wrote:
On Nov 27, 2023, at 3:42 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote: "In practice, an SSD¡¯s performance begins to decline after it reaches about 50% full." This is true only for those drives with no overprovisioning?
Over-provisioning staves off the problem. So does having a full version of TRIM enabled. Unfortunately, some external SSD¡¯s have neither.
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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
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So that is what TRIM does.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 06:17, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 5:20 AM, DaveC via groups.io <davec2468@...> wrote:
On Nov 27, 2023, at 3:42 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
"In practice, an SSD¡¯s performance begins to decline after it reaches about 50% full." This is true only for those drives with no overprovisioning?
Over-provisioning staves off the problem. So does having a full version of TRIM enabled. Unfortunately, some external SSD¡¯s have neither.
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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
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What does ¡°overprovisioning¡± mean, other than buying a large drive than you expect to need? Right now, no one has said it was a software or hardware feature other than buying a drive twice your expected need.
Brent
On my iPhone Xr
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 05:21, DaveC via groups.io <davec2468@...> wrote:
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 3:42 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
"In practice, an SSD¡¯s performance begins to decline after it reaches about 50% full."
This is true only for those drives with no overprovisioning?
Dave
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 5:20 AM, DaveC via groups.io <davec2468@...> wrote:
On Nov 27, 2023, at 3:42 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
"In practice, an SSD¡¯s performance begins to decline after it reaches about 50% full."
This is true only for those drives with no overprovisioning? Over-provisioning staves off the problem. So does having a full version of TRIM enabled. Unfortunately, some external SSD¡¯s have neither. __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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On Nov 27, 2023, at 3:42 AM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
"In practice, an SSD¡¯s performance begins to decline after it reaches about 50% full."
This is true only for those drives with no overprovisioning? Dave
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Brent
David G Brooks
