Owners & mods can see everyone, but everyone else, even after changing their own privacy settings, can only see others who done the same. Subscription > Group Profile > Profile Privacy
Otto
I just opted in and can see you now.
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He said: "I am not crazy…"went to download it again and it now no longer indicates a beta.
Thanks everyone.
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io < jimdoc@...> wrote:
On Nov 3, 2019, Vince Winterling wrote:
Would anyone want to hazard a guess why the Catalina version available?for download in the App Store is labelled Catalina 10.15.1 beta?
I can only see the non-beta final 10.15.1 there.
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Re: no text loop in latest iPad download?
I've not heard of a text loop. Is this a "loupe" (simple magnifier)?
Otto
Has anybody else noticed that in the latest download for iPad (IOS 13.2), there is no text loop available when trying to edit text? There are a lot of changes in this particular software update, and it's going to take me some time to get used to them, but the text edit one seems like a downgrade to me. It's impossible to see where the cursor is when my finger is in front of it without that magnifying loop.
Does anyone know if there's a way to get the loop back or some kind of workaround?
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Has anybody else noticed that in the latest download for iPad (IOS 13.2), there is no text loop available when trying to edit text? There are a lot of changes in this particular software update, and it's going to take me some time to get used to them, but the text edit one seems like a downgrade to me. It's impossible to see where the cursor is when my finger is in front of it without that magnifying loop.
Does anyone know if there's a way to get the loop back or some kind of workaround?
– Karen
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I just opted in and can see you now.
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Can you see me in Directory now?
Otto Tim, you being a member and not an owner or mod, can only see the ones, where the member in their profile privacy setting have allowed you to see it. Mine set to the default, does not allow you, but Otto as a moderator can see all. Funny you can not see the owner, the moderators including Otto. I guess they still have the default setting.
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Re: no text loop in latest iPad download?
On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 08:16 AM, KarenP wrote:
Has anybody else noticed that in the latest download for iPad (IOS 13.2), there is no text loop available when trying to edit text? There are a lot of changes in this particular software update, and it's going to take me some time to get used to them, but the text edit one seems like a downgrade to me. It's impossible to see where the cursor is when my finger is in front of it without that magnifying loop.
Does anyone know if there's a way to get the loop back or some kind of workaround?
– Karen
I have noticed the same and been annoyed by it too. Apparently, there are still some bugs for Apple to work out.
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On Nov 3, 2019, timmeidroth wrote: now there are 17 visible in the directory...they are in alphabetical order,?horizontally, left to right, top row first and so on...since the listings shown go?from a to t it's logical there are no more listings...i.e., no more pages...all this?goes back to the original question, which is: what determines whther a?member/subscriber is in the directory?
This is the same group I see. Which, I note, does NOT contain anyone named “Dan” or “Otto” or “Brent”…
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no text loop in latest iPad download?
Has anybody else noticed that in the latest download for iPad (IOS 13.2), there is no text loop available when trying to edit text? There are a lot of changes in this particular software update, and it's going to take me some time to get used to them, but the text edit one seems like a downgrade to me. It's impossible to see where the cursor is when my finger is in front of it without that magnifying loop.
Does anyone know if there's a way to get the loop back or some kind of workaround?
– Karen
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On Nov 3, 2019, Vince Winterling wrote: Would anyone want to hazard a guess why the Catalina version available?for download in the App Store is labelled Catalina 10.15.1 beta?
I can only see the non-beta final 10.15.1 there. <> --? Jim Saklad jimdoc@...
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Can you see me in Directory now?
Otto
Tim, you being a member and not an owner or mod, can only see the ones, where the member in their profile privacy setting have allowed you to see it. Mine set to the default, does not allow you, but Otto as a moderator can see all. Funny you can not see the owner, the moderators including Otto. I guess they still have the default setting.
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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On Nov 3, 2019, Brent wrote: In the OS I am running. There is a setting in the keyboard prefs that changes?that between the icon or a flag. I have only one keyboard chosen currently, US?English. I'm not near my Mac to see if selecting another kb overrides the icon.
I have 2 – specifically, “U.S.” and “ABC - Extended” The latter has the same normal key mappings as the first, but a different collection of “Alt-Key” mappings.
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Good call, Brent.
Yes, several. In one, I don't even see Directory as an option?in the menu. In another I see Directory, which when selected?gives me the message you got. 'This member directory is only visible to members of your group. In order to view the member directory, you must change your?profile privacy setting?to either Other Members of Your Group, or to Public.'
Changing?my profile privacy setting to? 'Other members of your group' Allowed me to see only a limited number of other members.?
It seems that even if the Directory setting is 'Subscribers',?each member has to "opt in", after which?they still see only others who have also opted in. So, to see everyone, everyone has to change their privacy setting as above. There is no?option for an owner/moderator?to override this.?
Otto
Otto, do you have an account where you are not a moderator? What do you see from that?
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BTW, other than emailing the person, what else can you do or see from that??
Or is this a minor whirl wind in a teacup? Brent, on my iPad
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:40 AM, timmeidroth < timmeidroth@...> wrote: now there are 17 visible in the directory...they are in alphabetical order, horizontally, left to right, top row first and so on...since the listings shown go from a to t it's logical there are no more listings...i.e., no more pages...all this goes back to the original question, which is: what determines whther a member/subscriber is in the directory? On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 7:27 AM Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678= [email protected]> wrote: I beg to differ, Mr Moderator.?
I was logged in as a member where I copied and pasted that message into my post. Then I used the link included, and looked at my profile privacy settings. They were set to what I believe is the default, "Only group owners & moderators." of which you, Otto, are a moderator. I believe the other options were visible to members or public. 3 total options.
I know I hadn't changed them. About the only thing I changed from the default on any of my memberships, was add an image to my groups dot io membership. Which passed it to the 4 groups I belong to.
Besides, you need to be logged in to get to the Directory area. Brent, on my iPad All subscribers can view the Directory. You need to be logged in.?
There are 14 pages.
Otto Hmmm, I see none, and where the list would be I see the message below:
This member directory is only visible to members of your group. In order to view the member directory, you must change your?profile privacy setting?to either Other Members of Your Group, or to Public.
Mine is set to: "Only group owners & moderators.", which I believe is the default.
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I see what Pat provided. However, selecting “Get” downloads a so-called beta.
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 9:42 AM, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io < pat412@...> wrote:
On Nov 3, 2019, at 7:37 AM, Joe Masters < joe@...> wrote:
On 3 Nov 2019, at 14:35, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io < pat412@...> wrote:
Catalina
10.15.1 is the current version and was released to the public on October 29, 2019.
I think what Vince was getting at was why the ‘beta’ after 10.15.1.
Good morning –
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Would anyone want to hazard a guess why the Catalina version available for download in the App Store is labelled Catalina 10.15.1 beta?
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Thank you.
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Vineland, NJ
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I’m in the US and the App Store listing doesn’t indicate that it’s beta:
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Yes, Dave, Dan and Otto are all missing and should be listed before Paul. Brent, on my iPad
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:40 AM, timmeidroth < timmeidroth@...> wrote: now there are 17 visible in the directory...they are in alphabetical order, horizontally, left to right, top row first and so on...since the listings shown go from a to t it's logical there are no more listings...i.e., no more pages...all this goes back to the original question, which is: what determines whther a member/subscriber is in the directory? On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 7:27 AM Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678= [email protected]> wrote: I beg to differ, Mr Moderator.?
I was logged in as a member where I copied and pasted that message into my post. Then I used the link included, and looked at my profile privacy settings. They were set to what I believe is the default, "Only group owners & moderators." of which you, Otto, are a moderator. I believe the other options were visible to members or public. 3 total options.
I know I hadn't changed them. About the only thing I changed from the default on any of my memberships, was add an image to my groups dot io membership. Which passed it to the 4 groups I belong to.
Besides, you need to be logged in to get to the Directory area. Brent, on my iPad All subscribers can view the Directory. You need to be logged in.?
There are 14 pages.
Otto Hmmm, I see none, and where the list would be I see the message below:
This member directory is only visible to members of your group. In order to view the member directory, you must change your?profile privacy setting?to either Other Members of Your Group, or to Public.
Mine is set to: "Only group owners & moderators.", which I believe is the default.
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Tim, you being a member and not an owner or mod, can only see the ones, where the member in their profile privacy setting have allowed you to see it. Mine set to the default, does not allow you, but Otto as a moderator can see all. Funny you can not see the owner, the moderators including Otto. I guess they still have the default setting.
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:40 AM, timmeidroth < timmeidroth@...> wrote: now there are 17 visible in the directory...they are in alphabetical order, horizontally, left to right, top row first and so on...since the listings shown go from a to t it's logical there are no more listings...i.e., no more pages...all this goes back to the original question, which is: what determines whther a member/subscriber is in the directory? On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 7:27 AM Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678= [email protected]> wrote: I beg to differ, Mr Moderator.?
I was logged in as a member where I copied and pasted that message into my post. Then I used the link included, and looked at my profile privacy settings. They were set to what I believe is the default, "Only group owners & moderators." of which you, Otto, are a moderator. I believe the other options were visible to members or public. 3 total options.
I know I hadn't changed them. About the only thing I changed from the default on any of my memberships, was add an image to my groups dot io membership. Which passed it to the 4 groups I belong to.
Besides, you need to be logged in to get to the Directory area. Brent, on my iPad All subscribers can view the Directory. You need to be logged in.?
There are 14 pages.
Otto Hmmm, I see none, and where the list would be I see the message below:
This member directory is only visible to members of your group. In order to view the member directory, you must change your?profile privacy setting?to either Other Members of Your Group, or to Public.
Mine is set to: "Only group owners & moderators.", which I believe is the default.
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Dan,
Thank you for your assistance. Sorry we didn't provide the requisite info but neither of us are very tech savvy
and some of what you inquired of us, we never would have considered as essential. "Well above our pay grade."
Nevertheless, my wife has a MacBook Pro, 21.5 inch, late 2012 model.
637.96 GB available out of 1 TB. ?8 GB Ram.
As she always does, when a "drop down" notice is received indicating "updates available," she simply clicks on "Install"
She did that weeks ago, shortly after Catalina was offered.?
Please note, the download and subsequent installation of 10.15.1 seemed to go seamlessly and were installed when each were made available.
The trouble only occurred a couple of days ago, when my wife tried to use the versions of Microsoft applications, on the iMac, "Word," Excel," "Power Point,"
etc. that she?has been using for years on all the prior OS`s up to Mohave.?
It appears Catalina and those older Microsoft apps are not compatible. I believe I saw a message on my MacBook Air, 2014, running he latest
Mohave, that these Microsoft applications will no longer function beyond Mohave.
My wife proceeded to try to download Microsoft 365 Personal and when she tried to open Word, a box kept appearing, requesting
a "keychain password." She didn't know what that meant and so she kept using all the passwords she could think of without success.
Also was unable to change or reset her password, so that currently "Word" is inoperable.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rick
for the latest OS, in this case Catalina. No different than what she (we) have been doing since the days of "Leopard" and moving forward.
She did not do any maintenance or preparation beyond just clicking "Install."
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Re: How to type Apple symbol/logo ?
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In the OS I am running. There is a setting in the keyboard prefs that changes that between the icon or a flag. I have only one keyboard chosen currently, US English. I'm not near my Mac to see if selecting another kb overrides the icon. Brent, on my iPad
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:36 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io < otto.nikolaus@...> wrote: No apologies necessary.
So the flag shows only if you have more than 1 keyboard in your Input Menu, and that is still the case?
Otto Howdy.
I think I owe the group and (Otto and Brent) an apology about the Input
menu.
I used to add an Italian keyboard to the Input menu but have not done
so recently.?
I saw the square black & white Input menu icon on my Mac until, just
now, I added an Italian keyboard in Input Sources.?
The Input black & white Input Menu icon immediately changed to the US
flag.? If I click and change to the Italian keyboard the flag changes
to the Italian flag.
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On 3 Nov 2019, at 14:42, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io < pat412@...> wrote:
On Nov 3, 2019, at 7:37 AM, Joe Masters < joe@...> wrote:
On 3 Nov 2019, at 14:35, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io < pat412@...> wrote:
Catalina 10.15.1 is the current version and was released to the public on October 29, 2019.
I think what Vince was getting at was why the ‘beta’ after 10.15.1.
Good morning – ? Would anyone want to hazard a guess why the Catalina version available for download in the App Store is labelled Catalina 10.15.1 beta? ? Thank you. ? -- Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ ?
I’m in the US and the App Store listing doesn’t indicate that it’s beta: <Screen Shot 2019-11-03 at 7.38.55 AM.png>
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And in the UK it shows exactly the same. Not sure where Vince was looking.
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On Nov 3, 2019, at 7:37 AM, Joe Masters < joe@...> wrote:
On 3 Nov 2019, at 14:35, Pat Taylor via Groups.Io < pat412@...> wrote:
Catalina 10.15.1 is the current version and was released to the public on October 29, 2019.
I think what Vince was getting at was why the ‘beta’ after 10.15.1.
Good morning – ? Would anyone want to hazard a guess why the Catalina version available for download in the App Store is labelled Catalina 10.15.1 beta? ? Thank you. ? -- Vincent Winterling Vineland, NJ ?
I’m in the US and the App Store listing doesn’t indicate that it’s beta:
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