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Re: Running Linux on a Chromebook
开云体育My son and I linuxized a retired Toshiba “Swanky” chromebook.? Right now it’s running NixOS with the xfce desktop, which handles the odd hardware (sound card, etc.) quite well. ? We did this in order to run FLDigi and JS8Call for digital modes, and that works well so long as the Chromebook can access an NTP server (it’s onboard clock is atrocious). ? We had to break the write protect on the onboard storage and add an expansion SD card to gain enough space for the OS.? Probably not for the faint of heart, but it was a fun hacking job! ? 73 KD2HBV ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Dave, G?WBX via groups.io
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2025 4:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [linuxham] Running Linux on a Chromebook ? Chromebooks are strange things, even when running their original OS! A local school went that route a few years ago to save costs.? It bit them, as it was found few machines could access the network printers!?? The company that supplied them could not fix the issue.? AFAIK they bit the bullet and went back to the dark (Micro$oft) side at great expense.. The above came from a friend who used to work at that school at that time.? From what she said, I doubt I could have fixed the issue even if I knew my way around the cut down Linux OS that was installed on them. Anyway... There is also? YTree available.?? Very similar to the old DOS XTree. The above as implemented in LMDE 6 (Linux Mint, without the Ubuntu parts.) It it works OK, bit does have it's quirks. Frankly, with most modern Linux distro's, the default gui based file explorer is more than good enough.? The only problem is that they all behave slightly different on each Linux distribution. The default file manager/explorer "nemo" on LMDE. The big advantage is that it recognises and honours all the rights and permissions on the system. Each to their own, and everyone's "tastes" are different.? Use what works for you, but learn it inside-out, top to bottom etc, so you become fully conversant with it.? Especially any quirky bits! Happy Days eh. Dave G0WBX. ? ? |
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Re: Running Linux on a Chromebook
开云体育Chromebooks are strange things, even when running their original OS! A local school went that route a few years ago to save costs.? It bit them, as it was found few machines could access the network printers!?? The company that supplied them could not fix the issue.? AFAIK they bit the bullet and went back to the dark (Micro$oft) side at great expense.. The above came from a friend who used to work at that school at that time.? From what she said, I doubt I could have fixed the issue even if I knew my way around the cut down Linux OS that was installed on them. Anyway... There is also? YTree available.?? Very similar to the old DOS XTree. The above as implemented in LMDE 6 (Linux Mint, without the
Ubuntu parts.) It it works OK, bit does have it's quirks. Frankly, with most modern Linux distro's, the default gui based file explorer is more than good enough.? The only problem is that they all behave slightly different on each Linux distribution. The default file manager/explorer "nemo" on LMDE. The big advantage is that it recognises and honours all the rights and permissions on the system. Each to their own, and everyone's "tastes" are different.? Use what works for you, but learn it inside-out, top to bottom etc, so you become fully conversant with it.? Especially any quirky bits! Happy Days eh. Dave G0WBX.
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Re: Running Linux on a Chromebook
Darrin, Thank you for mentioning Midnight Commander.? It may help me here.? I recall the Norton Commander and there was a time when I used it in my DOS days. 73, Andy, ka2uqw
On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 07:35:26 PM EST, Darrin Abend, KF0FVP via groups.io <dcabend@...> wrote:
If you're having trouble finding directories in a terminal window, I would recommend installing Midnight Commander.? It's a clone of the old Norton Commander from back in the DOS days.??? You can use synaptic or whatever package manager you have on your version of Linux to search for and install it.? Once installed you can just type mc to run it.?? It will have a dual window that makes it easier to copy and is mouse enabled.
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Re: Running Linux on a Chromebook
If you're having trouble finding directories in a terminal window, I would recommend installing Midnight Commander.? It's a clone of the old Norton Commander from back in the DOS days.??? You can use synaptic or whatever package manager you have on your version of Linux to search for and install it.? Once installed you can just type mc to run it.?? It will have a dual window that makes it easier to copy and is mouse enabled.
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Re: Running Linux on a Chromebook
Due to my own personal experience I would never recommend a chromebook for Linux install beyond experimentation.? I have had several chromebooks and none of them ran efficiently or effectively any Linux software I wanted it to run.? Due to the lack of driver support, nuetured hardware, and other things I have abandoned chromebooks altogether in favor of used laptops or Windows PCs, and then installing a fullfledged Linux OS.? My flavor is Ubuntu.?
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Based on your description you stated you unzipped and nothing...??
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I have a couple of questions.? FLdigi in Linux is distributed as a build from source app.? Meaning you have to compile it before you can run it.??
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What flavor of Linux is on your Chromebook? (Debian, Ubuntu, Arch, etc)?
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Did you follow the Sourceforge Wiki HOWTO instructions to compile and install FLDigi??
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If you didn't compile it, it won't run.??
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Adrian,
Thank you.
That Soundcard/Devices tab must be in a later version of Fldigi than the 4.2.03 version that I have.? I don't have the pipewire selection available on the tab.
But I will keep it in mind when I can upgrade.?
As of now the latest .deb file I can access is for Fldigi 4.2.03.? I see that a 4.2.06 tar.gz file is available but I am not sufficiently knowledgeable to build an installation from it.? So I will have to wait until a later version is available in .deb format.?? Or I will have to learn how to install from the tar.gz file - maybe give it a try soon.
Thanks again,
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Bob, I much appreciate your quick reply.? I think you have found my problem.
I never thought about the recording tab as having the effect that it does.
The pulldown was set to "Monitor of PCM2903C CODEC"
I changed it to simply "PCM2903C CODEC" and that solved the problem.? I now have audio to Fldigi.
I will have to look up what the "Monitor" function is!!!
Thanks again so much for your help.
73, Bill K4AJ
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I have successfully installed Fldigi 4.2.03 on Ubuntu 24.4 I have good rig-control between Fldigi and my transceiver. But I am unable to get audio from my transceiver to Fldigi. ? I do have audio from my transceiver to my computer because I can see it on the Pulse Audio Volume control bar-graph. ? Ubuntu 24.04 uses Pipewire for audio, but W1HJK indicates that this is not an issue with Fldigi. ? On Fldigi configuration/Soundcard/Devices I select PulseAudio but I have no clue how to determine the Server string. Therefor this is probably the issue I am facing. ? I have looked up Server string in the file fldigi_def.xml <PULSESERVER></PULSESERVER> Putting that in for the Server String field on the configuration window, I get a Pulse Audio error: “Connection refused” “Is the server running?” ? But there is no PulseAudio server in Ubuntu 24.04 ? Anyone have any ideas about getting the audio into Fldigi? ? Thanks. ? ? ? |
Greg Cheng - KC3SMW
Bill, K4AJ