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How are u making out Kevin....

give a shout when u have some time.

I went throught the Suse install again as it is on the net now,
and it's a bit convoluted to say the least. I wanted to see where
maybe you had problems. Not hard to find them...the description of
the ISO's leaves a lot to be desired and the mirrors sites have to
be looked at hard...

So let me know whats up... this is a new suse on a different drive
from ground zero..have to admit it was not fun or quick, untill I
went back to the idea of getting right away from the suse ftp..

all in all it took me probably 10 hours from ground zero to gmfsk up
and running...to long...but have to admit a few were nap hours when
i just had to wait...

Drop a line

VE3IXI

This version adds some TTY machine friendliness. You might want to
grab this one if you do a lot of TTY qsos and the other end of the qso
is on a "real" tty machine.

Dave (hkj)

I know that Patrick is toying with the idea of trying to identify the digital mode automatically. But that can be a real nightmare. His waterfall video id is ok until someone complains that it is not digital ... he is using a form of sstv similar to what is used for the picc mode in gmfsk.

I hooked up the sound card to a set of amplified speakers and listened to all of the modes. That helped a little, but if it is one your not used to hearing your chances of guessing the right mode is very problematic.

I'm getting good feedback from Jim, W6JVE, on the Kachina program. He has the rig / computer / soundcard all hooked up and running gmfsk in tandem with the Kachina CAT in various mods including RTTY. So far everything is working exactly as designed.

MFSK-8 is a lot slower than MFSK-16 ... so you don't see it too much.

Dave

Felt like a rookie tonight...called a cq on mfsk16..was answered
but had no print. It felt and sounded like mfsk, did the
usuall...rev..slide up and down...and scratch the head. Then a good
friend of mine came on and said it was Olivaa...ok buy that...but
before I got a chance the orginal caller came back and said that no
it had been mfsk8 by a mistake on his part...
Granted wide awake I probably would have probably not thought
Olivia, but on the other hand, I doubt if i would have guessed
mfsk8. Not sure I have ever hand an mfsk8 contact.
I still like the idea of being able to identify the modes by the
sound and feel of them. It just feels better, to know that I have
that ability.
To the point i guess..how do u feel about some of the mode
indentifiers being used these days. Ever notice that some are up to
twice as wide as the primary signal. The cw mode identifiers make
sense to me, but then again I'm good at cw, while some would have a
problem. Bandwidth and sound both are good clues, as is the picture
on the waterfall, but its not a certain thing will all the variants
these days.

Maybe instead of the video ID's, CW ID's and such we need
something more simple, and suits all including the hearing impaired
that the digi modes have given the hobby back to.
Just kinda rambling... but it got me thinking..a bit anyways..

Hard to say, maybe if u convince them to get W1hkj on their
development team you may find u have a life-time membership. On the
other had -- no doubt it...but if you can give me ur reg# and lets
see if we can do it twice... hi hi

Got everything up and running on Debian for the most part. Still doing
some tweaking.

gMFSK compiled and installed fine. Just finished a QSO with George
K1EPT and Dave VE3IXI. Couple of issues presented themselves.

Using an old TS-830S, I have no rig control so I didn't load hamlib.
Not sure if this is related to the problems.

First - the waterfall frequency scale is currently showing between
9000 and 10500 Hz. I know I'm not transmitting at these high audio
tones. I found that by hitting the little box beside SYNC & the
spinner box (showing 1015 - is this my audio freq?) that the scale
shifts so that where I had the hairline moves all the way to the left.
Now how do I get it back to where it's showing my actual audio frequency?

Second - in the log section, BAND is currently showing 0.008556 and it
cannot be edited. This looks like it corresponds to the waterfall's
frequency scale. I expected this box to allow me to enter the band
(either 40 or 7.000 - I only log the band, not the actual frequency).

Third - I programmed a macro in F2 but every time I hit F2 it doesn't
send the macro, it clears the log.

Other than these issues, the QSO with Dave went great. I don't think
I'm going to miss MixW so much. Think I can get a refund?

73,
Kev - K4VD - SKCC 605

Good stuff Kevin...and nice to do it gmfsk to gmfsk..
now its just a matter of time...

Darn forgot to log u for that one..dumb

Dave(ixi)

My personal preference for a development / ham platform is Debian. Mostly because it is maintained by a distributed group of geeks who will never charge for the distro. Secondly the upgrades are seamless and you can even update the OS without a reboot required. I have been using Debian for 7 months now without a hickup, and I really bash the system around with all of my development.

Suse is a very stable commercial distribution of Linux. I have used it in the past. Dave (ve3ixi) has more recent experience with that distro.

Nearly all of the modern linux distributions allow you to choose the simple install (greedy, I get the whole disk) kind of a thing, or one in which you pick and choose what, how and where to install things. I maintain a separate partition for the usr directory and also a separate partition for the home directory. I also have a second HD with a mirror image of the OS, usr and home directories. Am I paranoid or what? I backup from the primary to secondary on a weekly basis.

Check out the links on the linuxham site.

Dave (hkj)

Hi Kevin

Well I keep coming back to Suse and the GM version and 10.0 is
version of my choice.
Scsi--can't help u there but someone will if you need it

Bittorrent or anydownload..ok..but stay away from the main Suse
ftp. Try to use one of the US sites...the main site is way to slow.
Work with kenerl.org or whatever they call it or ale.***

Just do a search for suse mirrors.

After the intitial download of the iso and the making of the disk
the install should only take about an hour or so...

When u get to the point of the gmfsk install yak at me...have the
pitfalls down pat and there are a couple.

Good luck ya got my address...and to answer ur question about the
harley starter...nope not in my closet..

Dave(ve3ixi)


--- In linuxham@..., "Kevin der Kinderen"
<kkinderen@...> wrote:

I've decided to install Linux on my system. There's a good chance

I'm going

to have some problems and hope this group will help me through

some of them.

Reasons for going to Linux...

* Enjoyed it in the past.
* Bored with XP.
* Want to learn C++, use Perl and get back into some real geek

stuff.

* Want to relearn Cacti and work with other network management

tools (for

work).
* May host my web site at home.


This is the current plan...

* Create a dual boot system. I have a 16 GB SCSI drive with XP

installed and

a 200 GB EIDE drive that has most of my data files (documents,

pictures,

music, etc). The 200 GB drive will be native Suse Linux 10.0.
* Backup all files from the 200 GB drive.
* Downloading Suse (SUSE-10.0EvalDVD-i386-GM.iso) using BitTorent.

Have a

bunch more hours to go before it's complete.
* Install Suse on the 200 GB drive, get network setup and

download/install

any updates. Create a single, non-admin user account for daily

use.

* Install ham related software such as gMFSK.


Questions so far:

* Am I getting a decent distro? It seems to be popular. I know

this is a

loaded question, so I'm not asking if this is the best... just

good enough?

* How does the plan look?
* Does Suse create appropriate partitions or will it treat the

whole 200 GB

drive as a single drive? I'm used to creating /home on a separate

partition.

I'm thinking 150 GB for /home and 50 GB for all others.
* Besides gMFSK, what other recommended ham-related software

should I look

at. Logging?
* Any other "must-have" software?

73,
Kev - K4VD

You can preview the Kachina CAT program interface on the web site.
The application will be posted just as soon as beta testing is complete.

Dave (hkj)

I have both the ZL2AFP source code and the specifications for dominoEX in hand and under study.

The source code is in Power Basic and is not a 1:1 conversion to gmfsk which is written in C and C++.

I will announce when I am ready to solicite beta testers.

Dave (hkj)

I know it would take a great deal of work, but it would be very nice to
have support for DominoEX in gMFSK. At present I don't think there is
anything on Linux that supports this mode yet, and although one can get
the two windows apps that support it running under WINE, the result is
cumbersome and unstable. Having the app crash in the middle of a QSO and
refuse to start again is not good.

ZL2AFP gives out the source code to the standalone windows app on
request (zl2afp at internet dot co dot nz), at least porting that would
be helpful if adding the mode to gMFSK is out of the question at the moment.

-Joe, KD8ATU

Now the above has been a friend of mine for years. Spent more than
a few hours with the code and reading the bulletins. Had and still
have respect for the station and its goals in our hobby.

Now I have to ask, why the flagrent use of power and the changing
in frequencies by just a few kHz. Sometimes I feel like the digi
guys are in a battle with the founding station.

I honestly don't mind giving a bit of lee-way to the guys who would
be practicing code and or tuning there cw programs via the station.

Maybe its just that I never noticed the up and down antics of W1AW
before I started using digi modes...

Dave (ve3ixi)

Just posted for ArgoV, DeltaII and Icom728. Improved the FLTK control
widget, FreqControl. You do not need to bother downloading the file
unless you are following the development and want to see the changes
or you are using this control in your own application development.
There is no real change in application function.

Dave (hkj)

Very nice Tim. The same kind of thing can be accomplished using tcltk (wish), or python. Perhaps some one would like to try their hand at either of those. Wish has a very easy to use gui interface and you can build some pretty slick applications that are all scripts.

Dave (hkj)

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#
#Thanks Dave(W1HKJ) for your help - Tim KC4UMS
#
#Save all of this with the name "ipc_rcv.pl"
#From your shell type "chmod 777 ipc_rcv.pl"
#Run from the shell by typing "./ipc_rcv.pl"
#Log entry from gMFSK will display the fields in the shell
#
#This is the output after running the ipcs command from the shell
#With gMFSK running key 0x000004d6 decimal 1238 is the queue for gMFSK
#
#------ Message Queues --------
#key msqid owner perms used-bytes messages
#0x000004d6 753664 kc4ums 666 0 0
#

use IPC::SysV qw(IPC_PRIVATE IPC_RMID IPC_CREAT S_IRWXU);

#intialize the id same as msqid above to -1

$id = -1;

# Connect to the queue or create one(gMFSK not running)

my $id = msgget(1238,0666|IPC_CREAT);

# If $id is not a -1 we are ok

if ($id != -1)
{
print "Press CTL-C to terminate &#92;n &#92;n ";

# start a loop to receive mesaages

while(){

msgrcv($id, $rcvd, 1200, 0, 0) || die "Error queue $id";

# Split the string into an array by the "&#92;1" character

@rcvd = split("&#92;1",$rcvd,100);

print "$rcvd[0] &#92;n"; #Xprogram
print "$rcvd[1] &#92;n"; #version
print "$rcvd[2] &#92;n"; #date
print "$rcvd[3] &#92;n"; #time
print "$rcvd[4] &#92;n"; #endtime
print "$rcvd[5] &#92;n"; #call
print "$rcvd[6] &#92;n"; #mhz
print "$rcvd[7] &#92;n"; #mode
print "$rcvd[8] &#92;n"; #tx
print "$rcvd[9] &#92;n"; #rx
print "$rcvd[10] &#92;n"; #name
print "$rcvd[11] &#92;n"; #qth
print "$rcvd[12] &#92;n"; #locator
print "$rcvd[13] &#92;n"; #notes
print "&#92;n&#92;n";

};
};

hkj-45 up and running. looks good
Icom 728 up and also fine (and I do like the diplay numbers much better)

Dave(ve3ixi)

Icom728, ArgoV & DeltaII are now version 1.031b

Found a common logic error in all three ... fixed!

Dave (hkj)