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Library problem , need help.


Jos
 

I'm sorry.
In EEschema library browser I find some 30 libraries.
However in the windows Program Folder there is a folder Library
with 2293 files.

I downloaded Zip files and added the in this folder but they do not show in the Kicad Library folder.

I do not often use Kicad so my "expertise" is minimal.

What am I doing wrong???

Please help,

Jos
Holland


 

You need to ADD them to the "known" libraries by going into the "Preferences/Libraries" menu.

ALSO, I would keep any "new" library in a separate folder, totally outside the KiCad path, some place you keep data that you may want to backup.

Cat

----------------------------------------

To: kicad-users@...
From: jos.raven@...
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:55:59 +0000
Subject: [kicad-users] Library problem , need help.


I'm sorry.
In EEschema library browser I find some 30 libraries.
However in the windows Program Folder there is a folder Library
with 2293 files.

I downloaded Zip files and added the in this folder but they do not show in the Kicad Library folder.

I do not often use Kicad so my "expertise" is minimal.

What am I doing wrong???

Please help,

Jos
Holland



------------------------------------


Andy Eskelson
 

Kicad only works with libs that it is told about.

Use the preferences > library menu option, then use the add library
button.

Point it to your new libs and then OK. That should be enough.

Kicad only remembers added libs on a project by project basis, so these
libs will vanish when you start a new project. Either add them again, or
if this gets to be annoying you can modify the default template, after
which the libs will be included with any new project.

You can also define library paths as well I must admit that I've never
used this option, I think it enables you to pick up all libs in a
directory, but best to check the help on that point.


Andy



On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:55:59 -0000
"Jos" <jos.raven@...> wrote:


I'm sorry.
In EEschema library browser I find some 30 libraries.
However in the windows Program Folder there is a folder Library
with 2293 files.

I downloaded Zip files and added the in this folder but they do not show in the Kicad Library folder.

I do not often use Kicad so my "expertise" is minimal.

What am I doing wrong???

Please help,

Jos
Holland



------------------------------------

Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your question.
Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of Kicad.
Please visit for details of how to contribute your symbols/modules to the kicad library.
For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the kicad-devel group at ! Groups Links



Jos
 

OK,
I have a folder called "Library" in the Kicad program folder.
It is full off .LIB files.

If I add for instance, 1wire.lib it will show up in the list.
But I thing adding some 1000 .LIB files here is over the top.

I want to put some in the Device library, some in the Valves library.
I am really puzzled by this.

Jos

--- In kicad-users@..., Cat C <catalin_cluj@...> wrote:


You need to ADD them to the "known" libraries by going into the "Preferences/Libraries" menu.

ALSO, I would keep any "new" library in a separate folder, totally outside the KiCad path, some place you keep data that you may want to backup.

Cat

----------------------------------------
To: kicad-users@...
From: jos.raven@...
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:55:59 +0000
Subject: [kicad-users] Library problem , need help.


I'm sorry.
In EEschema library browser I find some 30 libraries.
However in the windows Program Folder there is a folder Library
with 2293 files.

I downloaded Zip files and added the in this folder but they do not show in the Kicad Library folder.

I do not often use Kicad so my "expertise" is minimal.

What am I doing wrong???

Please help,

Jos
Holland



------------------------------------


 

Yeah, about that...

What you are looking at is a series of components converted from Eagle cad tool. 1wire happens to be a bunch of components from the Dallas one-wire series. The truth is that there are 1000's of libraries because there are millions of different components out there, and in addition, different users like their libraries built in different ways (custom fields, text arrangements, etc.) The directory you are referring to is a contributed set. If you did a standard install you should also have the 'standard' libraries at Program_Files -> KiCad -> share -> library

DON'T add all those libraries to your schematic! Do think about what you might need and consider some of these downloaded libraries as a starting point. It has been said by others and I'll just repeat it: as with any CAD tool, it may be tempting to use out-of-the-box libraries, but in the end almost everyone ends up customizing their own. So consider the downloaded files as a starting point.

In particular, there are some libraries that are pretty commonly used that you will probably want to add and possibly tune as you move along.

Devices - a bunch of discretes like transistors, resistors, diodes. No need to roll your own on this.
Power - another good starting point. I changed the names of almost all the power points to suit our conventions, but you'll still want to use this as a base. Power stuff can get slightly tricky, so using this template will help a lot.
Conn - yep, connectors. You'll need 'em and this is a very basic library of reasonably useful stuff.

Moreover, you'll find that the ascii format of the .lib files is seductively easy to edit on the fly. Use a little caution, but generally you can work on a library faster in than in the graphical library editor. This includes combining libraries. To any of you code slingers out there listening, I KNOW you have little scripts that make updating these ascii libraries much easier. You may have even shared them somewhere in a forgotten thread, but could they be collected somewhere for us mere users to find?

Final caveat: I'm a new user myself, working only on my second schematic with KiCad. The learning curve seems fairly gentle and functionality comes quickly, but I'm still probably wrong on a lot of details.




From: Jos
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 7:41:07 AM
Subject: [kicad-users] Re: Library problem , need help.

?

OK,
I have a folder called "Library" in the Kicad program folder.
It is full off .LIB files.

If I add for instance, 1wire.lib it will show up in the list.
But I thing adding some 1000 .LIB files here is over the top.

I want to put some in the Device library, some in the Valves library.
I am really puzzled by this.

Jos

--- In kicad-users@..., Cat C wrote:
>
>
> You need to ADD them to the "known" libraries by going into the "Preferences/Libraries" menu.
>
> ALSO, I would keep any "new" library in a separate folder, totally outside the KiCad path, some place you keep data that you may want to backup.
>
> Cat
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > To: kicad-users@...
> > From: jos.raven@...
> > Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:55:59 +0000
> > Subject: [kicad-users] Library problem , need help.
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry.
> > In EEschema library browser I find some 30 libraries.
> > However in the windows Program Folder there is a folder Library
> > with 2293 files.
> >
> > I downloaded Zip files and added the in this folder but they do not show in the Kicad Library folder.
> >
> > I do not often use Kicad so my "expertise" is minimal.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong???
> >
> > Please help,
> >
> > Jos
> > Holland
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
>


Andy Eskelson
 

I'll add one other warning to this. DO NOT add things to the standard
libs. When you upgrade kicad the standard libs get overwritten. Always
set up your own lib and mod directories for things that you add and
modify.

Andy


On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:11:32 -0800 (PST)
Jeff Kaskey <jkaskey@...> wrote:

Yeah, about that...

What you are looking at is a series of components converted from Eagle cad tool.
1wire happens to be a bunch of components from the Dallas one-wire series. The
truth is that there are 1000's of libraries because there are millions of
different components out there, and in addition, different users like their
libraries built in different ways (custom fields, text arrangements, etc.) The
directory you are referring to is a contributed set. If you did a standard
install you should also have the 'standard' libraries at Program_Files -> KiCad
-> share -> library

DON'T add all those libraries to your schematic! Do think about what you might
need and consider some of these downloaded libraries as a starting point. It has
been said by others and I'll just repeat it: as with any CAD tool, it may be
tempting to use out-of-the-box libraries, but in the end almost everyone ends up
customizing their own. So consider the downloaded files as a starting point.

In particular, there are some libraries that are pretty commonly used that you
will probably want to add and possibly tune as you move along.

Devices - a bunch of discretes like transistors, resistors, diodes. No need to
roll your own on this.
Power - another good starting point. I changed the names of almost all the power
points to suit our conventions, but you'll still want to use this as a base.
Power stuff can get slightly tricky, so using this template will help a lot.
Conn - yep, connectors. You'll need 'em and this is a very basic library of
reasonably useful stuff.

Moreover, you'll find that the ascii format of the .lib files is seductively
easy to edit on the fly. Use a little caution, but generally you can work on a
library faster in <favorite_editor_name> than in the graphical library editor.
This includes combining libraries. To any of you code slingers out there
listening, I KNOW you have little scripts that make updating these ascii
libraries much easier. You may have even shared them somewhere in a forgotten
thread, but could they be collected somewhere for us mere users to find?

Final caveat: I'm a new user myself, working only on my second schematic with
KiCad. The learning curve seems fairly gentle and functionality comes quickly,
but I'm still probably wrong on a lot of details.





________________________________
From: Jos <jos.raven@...>
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 7:41:07 AM
Subject: [kicad-users] Re: Library problem , need help.


OK,
I have a folder called "Library" in the Kicad program folder.
It is full off .LIB files.

If I add for instance, 1wire.lib it will show up in the list.
But I thing adding some 1000 .LIB files here is over the top.

I want to put some in the Device library, some in the Valves library.
I am really puzzled by this.

Jos

--- In kicad-users@..., Cat C <catalin_cluj@...> wrote:


You need to ADD them to the "known" libraries by going into the
"Preferences/Libraries" menu.

ALSO, I would keep any "new" library in a separate folder, totally outside the
KiCad path, some place you keep data that you may want to backup.

Cat

----------------------------------------
To: kicad-users@...
From: jos.raven@...
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:55:59 +0000
Subject: [kicad-users] Library problem , need help.


I'm sorry.
In EEschema library browser I find some 30 libraries.
However in the windows Program Folder there is a folder Library
with 2293 files.

I downloaded Zip files and added the in this folder but they do not show in
the Kicad Library folder.

I do not often use Kicad so my "expertise" is minimal.

What am I doing wrong???

Please help,

Jos
Holland



------------------------------------


JorgeF_Tech
 

Jos, guys

I'm a recent user also, but I'm using past experience from other software
tools in my Kicad usage.

I never use "standard libraries" for my projects.
My first move is to set up my own libraries on my own folders (several guys
have mentioned this already) and then collect what I need from the available
libs.
At beginning might look a bit awkward, but after a few projects I have all
of my most frequently used stuff organized in my own way, and from time to
time, less and less often, need to look for something elsewhere.
It also makes it easier to ship a project to someone else, I know exactly
what libs to send along.

On the other hand, loading dozens of libs is also prone to put an
unnecessary burden on the software and on the PC with costs on performance.
I still remember, several years ago, when a friend decided to dump a full
Corel collection of true type fonts on is PC with M$-Windows, the machine
never rebooted until I managed to erase the 900+ TTFs.


Regards

Jorge



-----Mensagem original-----
De: kicad-users@... [mailto:kicad-users@...] Em nome
de Andy Eskelson
Enviada: quinta-feira, 27 de Janeiro de 2011 19:06
Para: kicad-users@...
Assunto: Re: [kicad-users] Re: Library problem , need help.


I'll add one other warning to this. DO NOT add things to the standard
libs. When you upgrade kicad the standard libs get overwritten. Always
set up your own lib and mod directories for things that you add and
modify.

Andy


On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:11:32 -0800 (PST)
Jeff Kaskey <jkaskey@...> wrote:

Yeah, about that...

What you are looking at is a series of components converted from Eagle cad
tool.
1wire happens to be a bunch of components from the Dallas one-wire series.
The
truth is that there are 1000's of libraries because there are millions of
different components out there, and in addition, different users like
their
libraries built in different ways (custom fields, text arrangements, etc.)
The
directory you are referring to is a contributed set. If you did a standard
install you should also have the 'standard' libraries at Program_Files ->
KiCad
-> share -> library

DON'T add all those libraries to your schematic! Do think about what you
might
need and consider some of these downloaded libraries as a starting point.
It has
been said by others and I'll just repeat it: as with any CAD tool, it may
be
tempting to use out-of-the-box libraries, but in the end almost everyone
ends up
customizing their own. So consider the downloaded files as a starting
point.

In particular, there are some libraries that are pretty commonly used that
you
will probably want to add and possibly tune as you move along.

Devices - a bunch of discretes like transistors, resistors, diodes. No
need to
roll your own on this.
Power - another good starting point. I changed the names of almost all the
power
points to suit our conventions, but you'll still want to use this as a
base.
Power stuff can get slightly tricky, so using this template will help a
lot.
Conn - yep, connectors. You'll need 'em and this is a very basic library
of
reasonably useful stuff.

Moreover, you'll find that the ascii format of the .lib files is
seductively
easy to edit on the fly. Use a little caution, but generally you can work
on a
library faster in <favorite_editor_name> than in the graphical library
editor.
This includes combining libraries. To any of you code slingers out there
listening, I KNOW you have little scripts that make updating these ascii
libraries much easier. You may have even shared them somewhere in a
forgotten
thread, but could they be collected somewhere for us mere users to find?

Final caveat: I'm a new user myself, working only on my second schematic
with
KiCad. The learning curve seems fairly gentle and functionality comes
quickly,
but I'm still probably wrong on a lot of details.





________________________________
From: Jos <jos.raven@...>
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 7:41:07 AM
Subject: [kicad-users] Re: Library problem , need help.


OK,
I have a folder called "Library" in the Kicad program folder.
It is full off .LIB files.

If I add for instance, 1wire.lib it will show up in the list.
But I thing adding some 1000 .LIB files here is over the top.

I want to put some in the Device library, some in the Valves library.
I am really puzzled by this.

Jos

--- In kicad-users@..., Cat C <catalin_cluj@...> wrote:


You need to ADD them to the "known" libraries by going into the
"Preferences/Libraries" menu.

ALSO, I would keep any "new" library in a separate folder, totally
outside the
KiCad path, some place you keep data that you may want to backup.

Cat

----------------------------------------
To: kicad-users@...
From: jos.raven@...
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:55:59 +0000
Subject: [kicad-users] Library problem , need help.


I'm sorry.
In EEschema library browser I find some 30 libraries.
However in the windows Program Folder there is a folder Library
with 2293 files.

I downloaded Zip files and added the in this folder but they do not
show in
the Kicad Library folder.

I do not often use Kicad so my "expertise" is minimal.

What am I doing wrong???

Please help,

Jos
Holland



------------------------------------


------------------------------------

Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your
question.
Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of
Kicad.
Please visit for details of how to contribute your
symbols/modules to the kicad library.
For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the
kicad-devel group at ! Groups
Links


Jos
 

Guys,

I listened to all your comments and decided to delete the big Library form the Programs/Kicad directory on C:

I made a new directory on another disk and added the path under Preferences >> User defined search path.
I will piut my stuff there.

Thanks for your help,

Jos

--- In kicad-users@..., "JorgeF_Tech" <jorgef.tech@...> wrote:


Jos, guys

I'm a recent user also, but I'm using past experience from other software
tools in my Kicad usage.

I never use "standard libraries" for my projects.
My first move is to set up my own libraries on my own folders (several guys
have mentioned this already) and then collect what I need from the available
libs.
At beginning might look a bit awkward, but after a few projects I have all
of my most frequently used stuff organized in my own way, and from time to
time, less and less often, need to look for something elsewhere.
It also makes it easier to ship a project to someone else, I know exactly
what libs to send along.

On the other hand, loading dozens of libs is also prone to put an
unnecessary burden on the software and on the PC with costs on performance.
I still remember, several years ago, when a friend decided to dump a full
Corel collection of true type fonts on is PC with M$-Windows, the machine
never rebooted until I managed to erase the 900+ TTFs.


Regards

Jorge



-----Mensagem original-----
De: kicad-users@... [mailto:kicad-users@...] Em nome
de Andy Eskelson
Enviada: quinta-feira, 27 de Janeiro de 2011 19:06
Para: kicad-users@...
Assunto: Re: [kicad-users] Re: Library problem , need help.


I'll add one other warning to this. DO NOT add things to the standard
libs. When you upgrade kicad the standard libs get overwritten. Always
set up your own lib and mod directories for things that you add and
modify.

Andy


On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:11:32 -0800 (PST)
Jeff Kaskey <jkaskey@...> wrote:

Yeah, about that...

What you are looking at is a series of components converted from Eagle cad
tool.
1wire happens to be a bunch of components from the Dallas one-wire series.
The
truth is that there are 1000's of libraries because there are millions of
different components out there, and in addition, different users like
their
libraries built in different ways (custom fields, text arrangements, etc.)
The
directory you are referring to is a contributed set. If you did a standard
install you should also have the 'standard' libraries at Program_Files ->
KiCad
-> share -> library

DON'T add all those libraries to your schematic! Do think about what you
might
need and consider some of these downloaded libraries as a starting point.
It has
been said by others and I'll just repeat it: as with any CAD tool, it may
be
tempting to use out-of-the-box libraries, but in the end almost everyone
ends up
customizing their own. So consider the downloaded files as a starting
point.

In particular, there are some libraries that are pretty commonly used that
you
will probably want to add and possibly tune as you move along.

Devices - a bunch of discretes like transistors, resistors, diodes. No
need to
roll your own on this.
Power - another good starting point. I changed the names of almost all the
power
points to suit our conventions, but you'll still want to use this as a
base.
Power stuff can get slightly tricky, so using this template will help a
lot.
Conn - yep, connectors. You'll need 'em and this is a very basic library
of
reasonably useful stuff.

Moreover, you'll find that the ascii format of the .lib files is
seductively
easy to edit on the fly. Use a little caution, but generally you can work
on a
library faster in <favorite_editor_name> than in the graphical library
editor.
This includes combining libraries. To any of you code slingers out there
listening, I KNOW you have little scripts that make updating these ascii
libraries much easier. You may have even shared them somewhere in a
forgotten
thread, but could they be collected somewhere for us mere users to find?

Final caveat: I'm a new user myself, working only on my second schematic
with
KiCad. The learning curve seems fairly gentle and functionality comes
quickly,
but I'm still probably wrong on a lot of details.





________________________________
From: Jos <jos.raven@...>
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 7:41:07 AM
Subject: [kicad-users] Re: Library problem , need help.


OK,
I have a folder called "Library" in the Kicad program folder.
It is full off .LIB files.

If I add for instance, 1wire.lib it will show up in the list.
But I thing adding some 1000 .LIB files here is over the top.

I want to put some in the Device library, some in the Valves library.
I am really puzzled by this.

Jos

--- In kicad-users@..., Cat C <catalin_cluj@> wrote:


You need to ADD them to the "known" libraries by going into the
"Preferences/Libraries" menu.

ALSO, I would keep any "new" library in a separate folder, totally
outside the
KiCad path, some place you keep data that you may want to backup.

Cat

----------------------------------------
To: kicad-users@...
From: jos.raven@
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:55:59 +0000
Subject: [kicad-users] Library problem , need help.


I'm sorry.
In EEschema library browser I find some 30 libraries.
However in the windows Program Folder there is a folder Library
with 2293 files.

I downloaded Zip files and added the in this folder but they do not
show in
the Kicad Library folder.

I do not often use Kicad so my "expertise" is minimal.

What am I doing wrong???

Please help,

Jos
Holland



------------------------------------


------------------------------------

Please read the Kicad FAQ in the group files section before posting your
question.
Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of
Kicad.
Please visit for details of how to contribute your
symbols/modules to the kicad library.
For building Kicad from source and other development questions visit the
kicad-devel group at ! Groups
Links