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Re: Printing out PCB layer mirrored?

peter_karlsen_dk
 

--- In kicad-users@..., ryan williams <destrukto@c...> wrote:

peter_karlsen_dk wrote:
Is it possible to print out a pcb layer mirrored?
I dont' think kicad can do it, but if you download this program:
GC-Prevue, it's a gerber viewer. it can mirror a gerber file and print.

-ryan

Thanks a lot.

/Peter


Re: Printing out PCB layer mirrored?

ryan williams
 

peter_karlsen_dk wrote:
Is it possible to print out a pcb layer mirrored?
I dont' think kicad can do it, but if you download this program: GC-Prevue, it's a gerber viewer. it can mirror a gerber file and print.

-ryan


Printing out PCB layer mirrored?

peter_karlsen_dk
 

Hi everyone.

Is it possible to print out a pcb layer mirrored?

I have made a double sided pcb, and I'm manufacturing it in my kitchen
table.
I print the pcb layout on transparent sheets and use them to expose
the photopcb.
Unfortunately one side of the pcb doesn't get exposed very well
because the printed side of the transparent sheet isn't towards the
pcb. UV light gets under the mask and the tracks and pads get fuzzy
when the pcb is developed.
If the printout could be inverted or mirrored the problem would be solved.

Does anyone have a solution for this?
I have checked the manual, but couldn't find anything on the subject.

Could this be a new feature in a future release of Kicad?

Finally a big applause for Jean-Pierre Charras for writing this
awesome piece of software. Well done.

Best regards
Peter


Re: Offset adjust to compensate for pad spacing error in fine pitch components.

yajeed2000
 

Hi,
I have just uploaded the corrected PQFP208 module to folder DJSBRISCOE
in the files section.

Regards,

David.


Re: Linking errors using wxWidgets

Ian bell
 

p_gress wrote:
Hi all,
I've compiled and installed wxWidgets into /usr/local. Now I'd like
to compile another program that is dependent upon wxWidgets. My
computing platform is Sun Solaris 10, both sparc and x86. I'm just
having trouble getting it to compile/link with the wxWidgets. Every
thing thing seems to work correctly. If I "wx-config --prefix" I get
/usr/local. Does any body have any suggestions for sucessful linking?
As well as the libraries you need the development header files too.

ian


Linking errors using wxWidgets

 

Hi all,

I've compiled and installed wxWidgets into /usr/local. Now I'd like
to compile another program that is dependent upon wxWidgets. My
computing platform is Sun Solaris 10, both sparc and x86. I'm just
having trouble getting it to compile/link with the wxWidgets. Every
thing thing seems to work correctly. If I "wx-config --prefix" I get
/usr/local. Does any body have any suggestions for sucessful linking?

Thanks,

Paul



Below is some of the output from my linker/compiler:

make -k -f makefile.gtk
make[1]: Entering directory `/Download_Files/Kicad/kicad-dev/common'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/Download_Files/Kicad/kicad-dev/common'
make[1]: Entering directory `/Download_Files/Kicad/kicad-dev/3d-viewer'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/Download_Files/Kicad/kicad-dev/3d-viewer'
make[1]: Entering directory `/Download_Files/Kicad/kicad-dev/eeschema'
gcc eeschema.o schedit.o libedit_undo_redo.o libedit_onrightclick.o
libedit_onleftclick.o dangling_ends.o setpage.o cmpclass.o
component_class.o libclass.o options.o tool_lib.o tool_sch.o
tool_viewlib.o drawframe.o schframe.o viewlib_frame.o selcolor.o
drawpanel.o wxprint.o lib_export.o busentry.o bus-wire-junction.o
eelibs1.o eelibs2.o eeload.o block.o block_libedit.o eeredraw.o
eestatus.o eestring.o eelayer.o priorque.o eeconfig.o affiche.o zoom.o
getpart.o netlist.o netlist_control.o editexte.o gr_basic.o editpart.o
locate.o save_schemas.o sheet.o viewlibs.o libedit.o libframe.o
symbedit.o pinedit.o libfield.o libedpart.o menubar.o savelib.o
symbtext.o symbdraw.o hierarch.o files-io.o annotate.o plothpgl.o
worksheet.o plot.o libalias.o plotps.o netform.o delsheet.o infospgm.o
delete.o genliste.o erc.o selpart.o libarch.o cleanup.o sheetlab.o
eeclass.o database.o divers.o onrightclick.o onleftclick.o find.o
controle.o hotkeys.o -s -lX11
-I/usr/local/lib/wx/include/gtk2-ansi-release-static-2.6
-I/usr/local/include/wx-2.6 -DGTK_NO_CHECK_CASTS -D__WXGTK__
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -L/usr/local/lib
-L/usr/X11R6/lib ../common/common.a `wx-config --libs` `wx-config
--prefix`/lib/libwxpng-`wx-config --release`.a `wx-config
--prefix`/lib/libwxjpeg-`wx-config --release`.a `wx-config
--prefix`/lib/libwxzlib-`wx-config --release`.a -lstdc++ -o eeschema
Undefined first referenced
symbol in file
wxWindow::DoGetClientSize(int*, int*) constsetpage.o
wxToolBar::DoInsertTool(unsigned int,
wxToolBarToolBase*)../common/common.a(toolbars.o)
wxToolBarBase::RemoveTool(int) ../common/common.a(toolbars.o)
wxSetWorkingDirectory(wxString const&)eeschema.o
__1cG__CrunKpure_error6F_v_
/usr/local/lib/libwx_gtk2-2.6.a(monolib_module.o)
wxString::StartsWith(char const*, wxString*)
const../common/common.a(gestfich.o)
wxIsAbsolutePath(wxString const&) netform.o
wxWindowBase::MakeModal(bool) setpage.o

..........Numerous same type errors removed..........

ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to eeschema
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [eeschema] Error 1
make[1]: Target `all' not remade because of errors.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/Download_Files/Kicad/kicad-dev/eeschema'


Re: Offset adjust to compensate for pad spacing error in fine pitch components.

JPD Borgna
 

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yajeed2000 wrote:
Hello,
I have spent the last few days correcting the pin spacing on the
PQFP208 module, the pin spacing is now correct at 19.7 Mils.
If anyone is interested I will upload the modified module file.
I did the editing by changing the co-ordinates directly in the
libcms.mod text file.To do this I wrote a small c++ file to generate
the co-ordinates to a file.I then used another parsing program to
replace each incorrect line in the original module file with the
modified line.Finally I fired up the module editor and checked the
spacing.The package outline will need slight ajustment, but that is
easily done by moving/extending a few lines.The critical thing is that
the pads are now spaced correctly.
The only thing that remains is to print out and test it on the actual
device.
Please let me know if anyone would like to try this out also.

  
I want to try it out, is it at yahoo files? where?

Saludos, Juan Pablo.


Regards,

David.

--- In kicad-users@..., JPD Borgna  wrote:
  
Hi all, I hope that with this we can leave te "case closed":

With the attached script and this parameters:  ./pqgen.pl 52 2 pq208
    
197 
  
0 1000 100
I created a "ruller" for compare with the kicad package.
According to a datasheet from Xilinx  PK007 (v1.2) June 18, 2004 about 
the PQFP (PQ208/PQG208) Package
the space betwen pads should be 19.68503937 in mills of inches, i used 
197 (rounding) for this ruller.
When comparing on the screen this ruller with the package that comes 
with kicad i can see that the pads are not
perfect, the differences varies from pad to pad, and some in the middle 
ar ok.
So (lucky me!) i think the package will work with no problems.
 From here to 2 to 3 weeks (:-P) im going to have a board designed with 
this package. Then ill tell you the real
thing: if it works or im fired....
Ive also attached a board with two modules, the one in the component
    
has 
  
the pads from the ruller, the one
in the solder side is the one wich comes with kicad.


Saludos, Juan Pablo.

-- 
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INTI-Electr¨®nica e Inform¨¢tica
Direcci¨®n:  Avenida General Paz 5445 entre Albarellos y Constituyentes
CC157 (CP B1650KNA) San Mart¨ªn, Bs. As., Argentina TE:+(5411)4724-6200





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CC157 (CP B1650KNA) San Mart¨ªn, Bs. As., Argentina TE:+(5411)4724-6200


Re: 3D modeling doesn't work

Juan Gonzalez
 

Hi,

I had the same problem when i was using my older laptop. I had
installed Mesa/OpenGL and it worked fine. Also the wings3d worked fine,
but Kicad did not. Now, I have a new laptop with 3D acceleration and it
works fine. So, I guess that you need to install the 3D acceleration
drivers.

I have the same operationg system (Debian Sarge) in both laptop. The
OpenGL and Mesa are the same and also the X windows. The only difference
is in the acceleration hardware.

When I run the glxgears program i get about 1300 FPS

Best Regards, Juan

El vie, 11-11-2005 a las 16:57 +0000, caa_bayonne escribi¨®:
I forgot to say, but I already checked screen depth (24 bit color),
and checked MesaLib. Also Wings3d *does* work, but kiCAD doesn't.

Yex, it gives me a blank windows (besides menu bar), but doesn't seem
to be a problem wiht mesa.


--- In kicad-users@..., "R. Michael Sharkey" <mike@r...>
wrote:

On Wednesday 09 November 2005 11:31 am, caa_bayonne wrote:
[clip]
I tried to create a link /usr/bin/wings -> /usr/bin/wings3d, but
it
won't help. KiCAD doesn't provide any clue on what is wrong, and
I
don't know what to do.
[clip]

Oh yeah, one more thing. To verify if Mesa/OpenGL 3D rendering is
working with
your video card at all, you can try running one of the Mesa demos
like
"gears" or something.

--
Regards,

Mike Sharkey


Bradford, Ontario
CANADA





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Re: Translation to czech language

Ian bell
 

Pavel Krejci wrote:
Hi, I'm new to this group.
I installed kicad few days ago but the longer I'm playing with it the more I like it :o)
I have some questions. If I have ocasionally some spare time and would like to traslate this tool to czech lanquage ... do you think it is good idea? Is there any how to for translation? Which codepage should I use?

There is another yahoo group dedicated to translating the kicad documentation into various languages. You can find the group here:



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Re: Offset adjust to compensate for pad spacing error in fine pitch components.

yajeed2000
 

Hello,
I have spent the last few days correcting the pin spacing on the
PQFP208 module, the pin spacing is now correct at 19.7 Mils.
If anyone is interested I will upload the modified module file.
I did the editing by changing the co-ordinates directly in the
libcms.mod text file.To do this I wrote a small c++ file to generate
the co-ordinates to a file.I then used another parsing program to
replace each incorrect line in the original module file with the
modified line.Finally I fired up the module editor and checked the
spacing.The package outline will need slight ajustment, but that is
easily done by moving/extending a few lines.The critical thing is that
the pads are now spaced correctly.
The only thing that remains is to print out and test it on the actual
device.
Please let me know if anyone would like to try this out also.

Regards,

David.

--- In kicad-users@..., JPD Borgna <jpborgna@i...> wrote:

Hi all, I hope that with this we can leave te "case closed":

With the attached script and this parameters: ./pqgen.pl 52 2 pq208
197
0 1000 100
I created a "ruller" for compare with the kicad package.
According to a datasheet from Xilinx PK007 (v1.2) June 18, 2004 about
the PQFP (PQ208/PQG208) Package
the space betwen pads should be 19.68503937 in mills of inches, i used
197 (rounding) for this ruller.
When comparing on the screen this ruller with the package that comes
with kicad i can see that the pads are not
perfect, the differences varies from pad to pad, and some in the middle
ar ok.
So (lucky me!) i think the package will work with no problems.
From here to 2 to 3 weeks (:-P) im going to have a board designed with
this package. Then ill tell you the real
thing: if it works or im fired....
Ive also attached a board with two modules, the one in the component
has
the pads from the ruller, the one
in the solder side is the one wich comes with kicad.


Saludos, Juan Pablo.

--
Juan Pablo Daniel Borgna -- T¨¦cnico Electr¨®nico
INTI-Electr¨®nica e Inform¨¢tica
Direcci¨®n: Avenida General Paz 5445 entre Albarellos y Constituyentes
CC157 (CP B1650KNA) San Mart¨ªn, Bs. As., Argentina TE:+(5411)4724-6200





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Translation to czech language

Pavel Krejci
 

Hi, I'm new to this group.
I installed kicad few days ago but the longer I'm playing with it the more I like it :o)
I have some questions. If I have ocasionally some spare time and would like to traslate this tool to czech lanquage ... do you think it is good idea? Is there any how to for translation? Which codepage should I use?

Regards,
Pavel Krejci


Re: 3D modeling doesn't work

ianbell
 

caa_bayonne wrote:
I forgot to say, but I already checked screen depth (24 bit color),
and checked MesaLib. Also Wings3d *does* work, but kiCAD doesn't.
Yex, it gives me a blank windows (besides menu bar), but doesn't seem
to be a problem wiht mesa.
Which video card and which distro are you using?

Ian


Re: 3D modeling doesn't work

R. Michael Sharkey
 

On Friday 11 November 2005 11:57 am, caa_bayonne wrote:
I forgot to say, but I already checked screen depth (24 bit color),
and checked MesaLib. Also Wings3d *does* work, but kiCAD doesn't.

Yex, it gives me a blank windows (besides menu bar), but doesn't seem
to be a problem wiht mesa.
Are you launching KiCAD from the command line or by clicking on a menu or
icon? If you are launching from the command line, are there any error
messages at all that might give some sort of a clue?

Otherwise, if there are no errors at all, I'd say one option is to build
KiCAD from source with debugging enabled (I've done this before, it's easy),
just make sure you have all the wxWidgets and Wings3D headers (dev packages)
installed (and maybe some GTK headers, I don't recall). Then run KiCAD in the
debugger and set some breakpoints where it's supposed to do the 3D stuff.
I'll bet if you do that, it won't take long at all before you can observe
where it's going wrong.

--
Regards,

Mike Sharkey


Bradford, Ontario
CANADA


Re: 3D modeling doesn't work

caa_bayonne
 

I forgot to say, but I already checked screen depth (24 bit color),
and checked MesaLib. Also Wings3d *does* work, but kiCAD doesn't.

Yex, it gives me a blank windows (besides menu bar), but doesn't seem
to be a problem wiht mesa.


--- In kicad-users@..., "R. Michael Sharkey" <mike@r...>
wrote:

On Wednesday 09 November 2005 11:31 am, caa_bayonne wrote:
[clip]
I tried to create a link /usr/bin/wings -> /usr/bin/wings3d, but it
won't help. KiCAD doesn't provide any clue on what is wrong, and I
don't know what to do.
[clip]

Oh yeah, one more thing. To verify if Mesa/OpenGL 3D rendering is
working with
your video card at all, you can try running one of the Mesa demos like
"gears" or something.

--
Regards,

Mike Sharkey


Bradford, Ontario
CANADA


Re: EAGLE to KiCAD (was: Re: Orcad to eeschema converter?)

R. Michael Sharkey
 

On Thursday 10 November 2005 09:43 pm, Renie wrote:
Hello Mike!

Who wroted this ULP script?

I want permission to put it in page Espa?o Kicad of my site, is
possible?

Tk's
Renie
If you "cat" ("type" I guess in Windoze speak) the ulp script, you'll see an
email address "sdn@...". I suppose that's the author. I don't
really recall where I got that script. I dragged it down from the internet
somewhere a while ago.

--
Regards,

Mike Sharkey


Bradford, Ontario
CANADA


EAGLE to KiCAD (was: Re: Orcad to eeschema converter?)

Renie
 

Hello Mike!

Who wroted this ULP script?

I want permission to put it in page Espa?o Kicad of my site, is
possible?

Tk's
Renie


--- In kicad-users@..., "R. Michael Sharkey" <mike@r...>
wrote:

On Sunday 16 October 2005 02:16 pm, Adilson Oliveira wrote:
I was looking for a way to expand the Kicad libs
[clip]

I just uploaded "exp-kicad-lib.ulp" under the rm_sharkey_libs
folder int he
files section of the group.

This is a ULP script to export EAGLE PCB parts to KiCAD. To use,
open EAGLE
PCB, load the library you're interested in, into the library
editor, and then
run this ULP script.

It has one bug that I have not gotten around to fix yet (I did not
write this
script). The bug is in selecting the correct layer for the pads.
However,
even in it's current state, you can manually edit the KiCAD output
and touch
up the pads using search and replace, just compare with a
similar "good"
KiCAD lib and you'll see what has to be modifed. Asside from that,
it does a
pretty good job of exporting.....maybe if someone has some time
they could
tweek this script a bit to make it work better.

--
Regards,

Mike Sharkey


Bradford, Ontario
CANADA


gendrill modifications

ryan williams
 

hi all,

I just posted a modified gendrill.cpp file. For those who can compile, if you are interested, try it out. It adds some options for the NC Drill files. here is what is changed:

-added call to SetParams() so that metic is possible.
-fixed metric tool size problem
-changed header: title is a header comment, not an M47 break command.
-changed header: added a drill format comment (for clarity with manufacturers)
-added y-axis orientation, option mirror: checked is the old way.
-added minimal header option: only tools and units are included
-added 2:3,2:4 inch format old inch format is now called "Decimal"
-added 3:2,3:3 metric format. decimal is also added. maybe 4:2/3 would be more useful?

I have milled a board made with inch,2:3,supress trailing, minimal header. I have also had one manufactured with the 2:4 setting. I checked all the others in GC-Prevue, and ViewMate gerber viewers. They seems to work properly. I was compiling on the last test release but don't think this part changed anyway. Lots of code was changed and some new function added. I did not change any of the Drill sheet code and I hope I didn't mess any of if up, but I seems that code is pretty much seperate.

-ryan


Re: 3D modeling doesn't work

Pedro Mart¨ªn del Valle
 

Hi Camilo,

Try message number 61 of sep. 28.
Maybe you have color depth set to 16 instead of 24 or 32 bits.

Pedro.

Hello,

I'm usign kicad on ubuntu linux 5.10. I have wings3d 0.98.29
installed, but 3d doesn't work.

I tried to create a link /usr/bin/wings -> /usr/bin/wings3d, but it
won't help. KiCAD doesn't provide any clue on what is wrong, and I
don't know what to do.

Can anybody help me?

Thanks,

Camilo A. Arboleda






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Re: 3D modeling doesn't work

R. Michael Sharkey
 

On Wednesday 09 November 2005 11:31 am, caa_bayonne wrote:
[clip]
I tried to create a link /usr/bin/wings -> /usr/bin/wings3d, but it
won't help. KiCAD doesn't provide any clue on what is wrong, and I
don't know what to do.
[clip]

Oh yeah, one more thing. To verify if Mesa/OpenGL 3D rendering is working with
your video card at all, you can try running one of the Mesa demos like
"gears" or something.

--
Regards,

Mike Sharkey


Bradford, Ontario
CANADA


Re: 3D modeling doesn't work

R. Michael Sharkey
 

On Wednesday 09 November 2005 11:31 am, caa_bayonne wrote:
[clip]
I tried to create a link /usr/bin/wings -> /usr/bin/wings3d, but it
won't help. KiCAD doesn't provide any clue on what is wrong, and I
don't know what to do.
[clip]

The most likely thing is it needs an OpenGL or Mesa driver which supports your
video card. Because you have X11 up and running, it does not nessesarily mean
that Mesa/OpenGL 3D rendering is supported on your video card.

Does the 3D viewer open a window which is black asside from the menu bar? If
so, then you most likely need to get Mesa or OpenGL working with your video
card, or get another video card, or.....

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Regards,

Mike Sharkey


Bradford, Ontario
CANADA