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Re: Pcbnew EAGLE plugin

 

Hi Dick,

thank you very much for all that you have contributed. Specialy that you did not only big contributions but also important ones.

Surely Kicad is a better software thanks to you!!!

Only a few weeks ago I was very glad to see you around proposing new functionalities...

I hope you all the best for you new company :)

Alain

Em 06-06-2012 23:22, dickelbeck escreveu:


I am finished with the EAGLE_PLUGIN, and I am suspending my involvement with KiCad until my time can be funded.

This probably means goodbye, after 5 years and $310,000 donated by my employer, SoftPLC Corporation, to the project.

My suggestions to users of the project, is that you find a way to fund the work. And until that happens, be sure and give credit and thanks where it is due, not to some nebuluous "software dispenser in the sky" called "the developers". Name names, and understand that software is not free.

Each of you are the recipient of a portion of SoftPLC's donation. There are only about 3 or 4 major financial backers of this project, and I dare say that SoftPLC corporation was number 2.


In case you are curious about what I do in my day job, I write factory automation software, and do it very well. My company has about 5% of the U.S. electric power grid power production under control of our flagship product named SoftPLC Corporation. This is all hydroelectric power generation, and we recently were again selected to be the controller for a retrofit application for the largest power plant in the United States, also hydro. This is a complete replacement of all controllers and installation of SoftPLC controllers to run the entire Grand Coulee dam. It is now operational fully on SoftPLCs.





Additionally, I am starting a new company now:




which is going to sell quad-copters and drone technology. Naturally we will be all over the flight control software. Please please please watch the website over the next few weeks. And if you feel compelled to give back a little, buy something for yourself there, or your kid or grand-kids.

I wish I could say that I enjoyed contributing, but to be candid, I was always a fish out of water. I am a capitalist, not a communist doner, so the fit was never right. And I am hell to work and with, because of very high expectations relative to software designs, so maybe this is a good thing for the other developers and maybe the project as a whole.


Dick





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Re: Pcbnew EAGLE plugin

dickelbeck
 

Miguel,

The project is lucky to have you.

I hope they recognise that, but there is not a lot of reason for optimism on that front.


The website and the scripting will be amazingly beneficial over the upcoming years.

Take care,

Dick


Re: Mixed part types with multi-part components?

rohchar
 

Hi,

see below :


regards,
Charles.

--- In kicad-users@..., "rertelt" <rertelt@...> wrote:

For the pins it work well, but with the artwork KiCAD had some problem:

On all parts it places the same artwork. I call it a bug...

Roland

--- In kicad-users@..., Ivica Kvasina <kvasina@> wrote:

creating different artwork for each part is a problem.??
every time i change one part, change is applied to all of them.
i did try various settings incl. edit pins per part but so far this is still frustrating.



Re: Mixed part types with multi-part components?

 

Hi,

I don't know if it is a bug in the last versions, but with a 2008 version we
made some components with different parts and they work properly with
2011-07-08 version we are still using.

We have a component with 6 different parts, each of them a rectangle, but
different rectangles in size.

Regards,
Pedro.

For the pins it work well, but with the artwork KiCAD had some problem:

On all parts it places the same artwork. I call it a bug...

Roland

--- In kicad-users@..., Ivica Kvasina <kvasina@...> wrote:

well i don't know about easily:
creating same parts is not a problem.?
creating parts where pins are in different position from one part to next
is not a problem
creating different artwork for each part is a problem.?
every time i change one part, change is applied to all of them.
i did try various settings incl. edit pins per part but so far this is
still frustrating.



________________________________
From: Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@...>
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:24:19 AM
Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Mixed part types with multi-part components?


?
It can be done fairly easily.
I created a relay symbol that had the coil and contacts as sep parts.

In the component properties you need to set the number of parts, I expect
that you have done this for other parts you have created.

Then you can start editing the component. In the top toolbar there are
two boxes, one to select the part A, B, C and so on. then a box for the
name. Next to that box is a button "edit pins per part or body style"

Click this so that it is active. this setting allows you to use
different designs and pins for each sub part.

If I remember correctly there was a small problem in getting things to
edit correctly, and what I did was to just put a single line on all
parts (with the edit pins button unselected, then switch it back on and
I could then edit things as normal. I've not tried to do this with my
current version of kicad, BZR 3256, so that little problem may have
been sorted out by now.

Andy

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:33:21 -0000
"acousmatique" <acousmatique@...> wrote:

Arg... this is driving me nuts.

For the past two weeks, I have buckled down to create the parts
libraries I need. This seems to be a nightmare for every program I try, like
they assume the parts you need are already there.

I have made some multi-part profiles which have turned out well. The
problem seems to be when I am making a component which has multiple parts, but
they aren't all the same. For instance, tonight I am trying to make a big
library of transistor and diode arrays that I use. Now I am trying to enter a
device (THAT 340) which has two NPN transistors, and two PNP transistors. I
define pins 1-3 as NPN for Part A, but then when I define pins 5-7 as PNP for
Part B, I go back and it has overwritten the PNP for PART A also! I cannot
imagine any reason why this would happen. They have their own pin numbers! If
I change the part for pins 5-7 why would it assume that I am changing pins 1-3
which I have already done?

The only workaround I can think of for now is just using a monolithic
block and naming the pins for the whole device. It's easy, but it makes the
schematics messy. Any ideas? Am I missing something here?

Thanks!



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Re: kicad thermal/ ground stitching vias

Aurel Cristescu
 

I?think I got the idea. Both #1 and #2 are working ok (they are not loosing their net - GND -when UNDO is pressed or file is reopened)?IF they have a trace connection to a netlist defined pin.
?
#1 See thermal_vias_...jpg
Thermal vias were added like that: add trace from pin 20 (GND) to center of pin 33 and place via. Then each via was moved on desired position and trace was preserved (not deleted).
If you reopen BRD or make an UNDO cycle the vias will preserve GND net connectivity.
#2 See gnd_pane.... jpg
As advised by Robert
?
Thanks a lot for help

From: Ivica Kvasina
To: "kicad-users@..."
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:38 AM
Subject: Re: [kicad-users] kicad thermal/ ground stitching vias

?
this is exactly what I do, I find it kinda annoying... there should be better way.
i tried just stitching some vias without using trace and that was a bad idea. actually the idea was good but PCBNew didn't work as expected - vias placed this way didn't get the net assigned. as a result PCB was fine but if one had to reflow zone for example or just run DRC, all those vias would become orphans.



From: Robert
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:51:32 AM
Subject: Re: [kicad-users] kicad thermal/ ground stitching vias

?


On 06/06/2012 14:26, aurelcristescu wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I am new to Kicad and I did not find a proper way to resolve these
> two things:
>
> 1) Place thermal vias under a component to transfer the heat to other
> plane layers (for example connect a QFN with GND pad underneath to an
> burrier GND plane)

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/files/QFN_MLF/
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/kicad-users/files/IPC%20Modules/

> 2) Place ground stiching vias to connect TOP and
> BOTTOM GND layers (like in RF routing).

First create two ground zones as required. Then start laying a track
at any component pad that is connected to ground. At regular intervals
place a via and carry on tracking. The ground track will switch from
one layer to the other. Don't return to the start point. Finally
fill your zones (I usually just run the DRC to do this).

Regards,

Robert.

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Re: Small open copper plane for setting/testing PCBs

 

Hi,

We have used this method for years, with other programms and from 2005 with
Kicad in "real professional use".

We make a component and a footprint called testpoint. The foot print is
usually a small circle, depending on the design.

And we have in the schematic a component similar to a power flag, so we really
know where is any testpoint in the circuit.

Regards,
Pedro.


I think it would be good, if KiCAD can "draw" on copper layers. So it would
be possible to place such Testpoints in any shape needed "quick n' dirty"
without harming the schematic.

Also it would be possible to round up T-crossings with arcs. For this the
grapic elements had to become a net and have to be possible on copper.

This is one point on the "List who avoid KiCAD in real professional use".

Roland

--- In kicad-users@..., "osterchrisi" <osterchrisi@...> wrote:

Hello guys,

one of my workers had the idea of using small (like 0.5" x 0.5" / 1cm x
1cm) open copper ground planes on the edges of our boards for setting trimmers
and testing the PCBs.

Right now we always have to find a 'good' leg of a resistor etc. where we
can clip our GND-clip of the oscilloscope to and sometimes this is a really
shi**y procedure so that in the end you have to solder small pieces of copper
wire to a GND pin of another component to clip your crocodile clip to.

Our next run of PCBs should be SMD anyway so he had this idea. What do you
think about that? Good or bad idea?

Thanks for your time and I'm very open to any suggestions here!
christian


Re: Small open copper plane for setting/testing PCBs

Andy Eskelson
 

Kicad CAN draw on the copper layers, you can place text on the layers
easily enough. There is also a utility that enables you to import a
graphic to be placed on the copper layers.


However if you are only talking about a "quick and dirty" method, do the
main layout, run the checks and correct. Then tun on DRC and thay will
enable you to place any module you want anywhere. So just define a module
with the required pad shapes to make up what you want. (use SMD pads)

Andy


On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:19:12 -0000
"rertelt" <rertelt@...> wrote:

I think it would be good, if KiCAD can "draw" on copper layers. So it would be possible to place such Testpoints in any shape needed "quick n' dirty" without harming the schematic.

Also it would be possible to round up T-crossings with arcs. For this the grapic elements had to become a net and have to be possible on copper.

This is one point on the "List who avoid KiCAD in real professional use".

Roland

--- In kicad-users@..., "osterchrisi" <osterchrisi@...> wrote:

Hello guys,

one of my workers had the idea of using small (like 0.5" x 0.5" / 1cm x 1cm) open copper ground planes on the edges of our boards for setting trimmers and testing the PCBs.

Right now we always have to find a 'good' leg of a resistor etc. where we can clip our GND-clip of the oscilloscope to and sometimes this is a really shi**y procedure so that in the end you have to solder small pieces of copper wire to a GND pin of another component to clip your crocodile clip to.

Our next run of PCBs should be SMD anyway so he had this idea. What do you think about that? Good or bad idea?

Thanks for your time and I'm very open to any suggestions here!
christian



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Re: draw address and databus

 

First of all look at the sample projects, several use multi-sheet drawings.
There are different ways to pass signals between pages.?
One way is to use global labels (this should be reserved for really global things, like GND).

The normal way is to use sheet labels:
1. create new sheet (place it somewhere in the main sheet)
2. enter the new sheet
3. create some circuit and add some hierarchical labels (each of them must have unique name on one sheet)
4. navigate back to main sheet (right click and select "LEAVE SHEET" for example)
5. zoom in on box representing new sheet (one that we just left, the one with circuit and hierarchical labels)
6. rightclick on the box and select "IMPORT SHEET PINS" and place the pin at one of the box edges
7. repeat step 6 until all pins are imported
8. finish wiring of the main sheet

Ivica


From: kplaetevoet
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:00:22 PM
Subject: [kicad-users] draw address and databus

?
Hello,

I'm a kicad beginner and want to use multiple sheets.
I want to connect address bus onto one page to address bus onto second page.
i have tried to follow the getting started in kicad guide.pdf

The only different is that there is everything onto the same page.

I have replaced the label by a global label on the bus but no connection is created.

How can i solve this?

thanks in advance




Re: draw address and databus

JorgeF_Tech
 

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Hi

?

Each hierarchical sheet is treated like an independent entity.

Just check if you put the same global label in all the address bus sections on the different sheets.

?

?

Best regards

Jorge

?

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De: kicad-users@... [mailto:kicad-users@...] Em nome de kplaetevoet
Enviada: quinta-feira, 7 de Junho de 2012 21:00
Para: kicad-users@...
Assunto: [kicad-users] draw address and databus

?

?

Hello,

I'm a kicad beginner and want to use multiple sheets.
I want to connect address bus onto one page to address bus onto second page.
i have tried to follow the getting started in kicad guide.pdf

The only different is that there is everything onto the same page.

I have replaced the label by a global label on the bus but no connection is created.

How can i solve this?

thanks in advance


Re: Mixed part types with multi-part components?

 

For the pins it work well, but with the artwork KiCAD had some problem:

On all parts it places the same artwork. I call it a bug...

Roland

--- In kicad-users@..., Ivica Kvasina <kvasina@...> wrote:

well i don't know about easily:
creating same parts is not a problem.??
creating parts where pins are in different position from one part to next is not a problem
creating different artwork for each part is a problem.??
every time i change one part, change is applied to all of them.
i did try various settings incl. edit pins per part but so far this is still frustrating.



________________________________
From: Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@...>
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 4:24:19 AM
Subject: Re: [kicad-users] Mixed part types with multi-part components?


??
It can be done fairly easily.
I created a relay symbol that had the coil and contacts as sep parts.

In the component properties you need to set the number of parts, I expect
that you have done this for other parts you have created.

Then you can start editing the component. In the top toolbar there are
two boxes, one to select the part A, B, C and so on. then a box for the
name. Next to that box is a button "edit pins per part or body style"

Click this so that it is active. this setting allows you to use
different designs and pins for each sub part.

If I remember correctly there was a small problem in getting things to
edit correctly, and what I did was to just put a single line on all
parts (with the edit pins button unselected, then switch it back on and
I could then edit things as normal. I've not tried to do this with my
current version of kicad, BZR 3256, so that little problem may have
been sorted out by now.

Andy

On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:33:21 -0000
"acousmatique" <acousmatique@...> wrote:

Arg... this is driving me nuts.

For the past two weeks, I have buckled down to create the parts libraries I need. This seems to be a nightmare for every program I try, like they assume the parts you need are already there.

I have made some multi-part profiles which have turned out well. The problem seems to be when I am making a component which has multiple parts, but they aren't all the same. For instance, tonight I am trying to make a big library of transistor and diode arrays that I use. Now I am trying to enter a device (THAT 340) which has two NPN transistors, and two PNP transistors. I define pins 1-3 as NPN for Part A, but then when I define pins 5-7 as PNP for Part B, I go back and it has overwritten the PNP for PART A also! I cannot imagine any reason why this would happen. They have their own pin numbers! If I change the part for pins 5-7 why would it assume that I am changing pins 1-3 which I have already done?

The only workaround I can think of for now is just using a monolithic block and naming the pins for the whole device. It's easy, but it makes the schematics messy. Any ideas? Am I missing something here?

Thanks!



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Re: Small open copper plane for setting/testing PCBs

 

I think it would be good, if KiCAD can "draw" on copper layers. So it would be possible to place such Testpoints in any shape needed "quick n' dirty" without harming the schematic.

Also it would be possible to round up T-crossings with arcs. For this the grapic elements had to become a net and have to be possible on copper.

This is one point on the "List who avoid KiCAD in real professional use".

Roland

--- In kicad-users@..., "osterchrisi" <osterchrisi@...> wrote:

Hello guys,

one of my workers had the idea of using small (like 0.5" x 0.5" / 1cm x 1cm) open copper ground planes on the edges of our boards for setting trimmers and testing the PCBs.

Right now we always have to find a 'good' leg of a resistor etc. where we can clip our GND-clip of the oscilloscope to and sometimes this is a really shi**y procedure so that in the end you have to solder small pieces of copper wire to a GND pin of another component to clip your crocodile clip to.

Our next run of PCBs should be SMD anyway so he had this idea. What do you think about that? Good or bad idea?

Thanks for your time and I'm very open to any suggestions here!
christian


draw address and databus

 

Hello,

I'm a kicad beginner and want to use multiple sheets.
I want to connect address bus onto one page to address bus onto second page.
i have tried to follow the getting started in kicad guide.pdf

The only different is that there is everything onto the same page.

I have replaced the label by a global label on the bus but no connection is created.

How can i solve this?

thanks in advance


Design a kicad library file using kicad quick library generator tutorial ways I

 

Design a kicad library file using kicad quick library generator tutorial ways I found to make it efficient.
This is a pdf tutorial I made because I would like to have kicad libraries of a project I am working on made.


New file uploaded to kicad-users

 

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Re: DRC and managing high current segments

 

on one of the jobs i had same problem. i just left the track as is and then added zone over segment that was high current.



From: mitchelj56
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 9:00:00 AM
Subject: [kicad-users] DRC and managing high current segments

?
Hi,

I'm having some trouble managing high current segments with DRC and need some advise.

When design rule is set up to associate a net with a high current track, then the whole of that net takes on a high current track status.

In practice, usually you would only need some segments of a track to be high current, while the remaining segments are low current. Typically for example a H-bridge driving a motor. The high current paths are from battery leads to H-bridge, but the other electronics hanging off the ground and positive rails are low current.

I can't seem to set individual segments in the design rule set up dialog box to be high current. (I can set tracks widths manually as a work around, but that is not the point - I want it to be set up as a design rule so that it checks for violations automatically without having to manually inspect every track and segment.)

Any suggestions?




DRC and managing high current segments

 

Hi,

I'm having some trouble managing high current segments with DRC and need some advise.

When design rule is set up to associate a net with a high current track, then the whole of that net takes on a high current track status.

In practice, usually you would only need some segments of a track to be high current, while the remaining segments are low current. Typically for example a H-bridge driving a motor. The high current paths are from battery leads to H-bridge, but the other electronics hanging off the ground and positive rails are low current.

I can't seem to set individual segments in the design rule set up dialog box to be high current. (I can set tracks widths manually as a work around, but that is not the point - I want it to be set up as a design rule so that it checks for violations automatically without having to manually inspect every track and segment.)

Any suggestions?


Re: Pcbnew

 

On 06/06/2012 22:46, Peter Bennett wrote:
2. When you place a right-angle bend in a track, PCBNew insists on
replacing the 90 degree corner with a short 45 degree track segment (it
may be possible to disable this action, but I couldn't find a way).
It's easy to overcome this, but a little tricky to describe. Where you want the 90 degree bend just click twice (NB: click twice is does not mean double-click) and set off in the direction you want the track to take. When you click at the next node the track will be laid bent through 90 degrees as required. Note that in general this is not good practice, but sometimes it needs to be done.

Regards,

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Re: Pcbnew EAGLE plugin

Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
 

Hi Dick,?





? ?

2012/6/7 dickelbeck <dick@...>
?


I am finished with the EAGLE_PLUGIN, and I am suspending my involvement with KiCad until my time can be funded.

This probably means goodbye, after 5 years and $310,000 donated by my employer, SoftPLC Corporation, to the project.


? ?Thanks a lot for the hard work and leadership you've been giving to KiCad, and the funding SoftPLC has been giving, at the end paying your time means funding.
It's a hard for any company, open source software development comes with ?a very blurry and long term ROI, when it does even exist.
?


My suggestions to users of the project, is that you find a way to fund the work. And until that happens, be sure and give credit and thanks where it is due, not to some nebuluous "software dispenser in the sky" called "the developers". Name names, and understand that software is not free.


? ?A strategy for funding won't be bad at all for the project, may be willing and proven developers could offer a list of features they'd find interesting to
develop, including a price tag. Later we get the features voted, and then we put them on?? (or any equivalent platform) to get
them funded.
?

Each of you are the recipient of a portion of SoftPLC's donation. There are only about 3 or 4 major financial backers of this project, and I dare say that SoftPLC corporation was number 2.

Probably we should be maintaining a list of donors in the new KiCad website, it's a way to pay something back to SoftPLC
?

[... snip ...]
Additionally, I am starting a new company now:



which is going to sell quad-copters and drone technology. Naturally we will be all over the flight control software. Please please please watch the website over the next few weeks. And if you feel compelled to give back a little, buy something for yourself there, or your kid or grand-kids.


Woow!, nice!, I've built a quad copter once, they're spectacular, I wish you very good luck. Please tell us when the products are ready to take a look.
?


I wish I could say that I enjoyed contributing, but to be candid, I was always a fish out of water. I am a capitalist, not a communist doner, so the fit was never right. And I am hell to work and with, because of very high expectations relative to software designs, so maybe this is a good thing for the other developers and maybe the project as a whole.


As you told me once, donating your time to an opensource project is like donating blood, if you do it too much, then you're dead.

We live on a capitalist world, and food won't come to our houses if we "code" for free. Even if we lived in a?communist?world, then we must be doing our assigned duties... and not coding what we wanted to. So money is necessary, and finding a strategy to fund this project would be of a big benefit to all the users. KiCad has a lot to offer to everyone.


Dick

Good luck :)
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Re: Pcbnew

 

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[quote]when you load the netlist you will get all the components in a pile in the corner of the board.[/quote]

to make things easier, you can get KiCad to at least line up all the modules (footprints) sequentially in a block, instead of piling them on top of each other in a mess.

In PCBNew, Select the icon "MODE FOOTPRINT : Manual and Automatic move and place modules" (third icon form the right).

Select any one module, and bring up the context menu.
Select GLOB MOVE AND PLACE
Select MOVE ALL MODULES or AUTOPLACE ALL MODULES



Best Regards,

Anool Mahidharia? (anool@...)
anool.m@...








On 6/6/2012 11:01 PM, Andy Eskelson wrote:

?


when you load the netlist you will get all the components in a pile in
the corner of the board. You have to move the components to the positions
you want, then you can start laying out the tracks

I assume that you have got this far.

When you say that DRC said there were no connections in a lot of places,
that usually means that you need to place a junction to force the
connection.

Other things that can cause problems is that you might "miss" the
conection point. If the pad and the track are not EXACTLY aligned you can
get this sort of problem.

Usually magnetic tracks is enabled which cures most of these types of
problem.
preferences>general
magnetic pads
magnetic tracks

enable for "when creating" this is the default.

If you are trying to find the place where different via sizes and tracks
are defined, then that has moved. select design rules from the main menu
bar and then on design rules icon Select global design rules tab, and
there you can define whatever custom track and via sizes you want. Once
you do that, they will become available for use.

Hope that's what you were asking for.

If not a bit more info is needed.

Andy

On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:54:48 -0000
"tmortus" <tom_mort@...> wrote:

> I'm slowly working my way in learning how to create a circuit board with
> kicad. So far I have created the schematic, tested it and created a
> netlist with eeschema and I've made some modules.and assigned them to
> the corresponding component in eeschema.
> I'm trying to now create a pcb. I have selected read netlist from the
> pcb design screen, Everything looked OK to me, but, when I ran design
> tools check it said a lot of the pads had no connection. I can see
> though that they have lines going from them.
> I then thought I should consult the tutorial
> <> ad_Tutorial.pdf&pli=1> . In the tutorial it says to click on
> "Dimensions" -> "Tracks and Vias".. It shows this menu
> item between Preferences and Miscellaneous on the menu bar. The menu
> bar I have has File, Edit, View, Place, Preferences, Tools, Design Rules
> and Help.
> Can someone tell me what the pads are unconnected means and how to fix
> it and let me know there the Dimensons -> Tracks and Vias is located???


Re: Does KiCAD have something like Eagle's DRU and CAM files?

 

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Hi,

We've been using KiCad and Dorkbotpdx extensively for all or our open source projects (wyolum.com).

I haven't used Eagle (except to view projects), but I think Eagle CAM job file is equivalent to KiCad .drl file.

In KiCad, here's what we do :

In PCBNew, File > Plot
SELECT "Use proper filename extensions (.GBL, .GTL etc) - but I usually stick to the standard .pho file name extension.
SELECT and generate the required gerber files for the various layers.

Select GENERATE DRILL FILE
DRILL UNITS = inches
ZEROS FORMAT = Suppress leading zeros
PRECISION = 2:4
DRILL ORIGIN = Absolute
OPTIONS = Minimal header

Additionally, I generate a DRILL SHEET in Gerber (though not absolutely necessary)
and also a DRILL REPORT

This results in three files
1. project.drl = lists all used drill sizes, drill co-ordinates etc. It's important to include this file with your gerbers.
2. project-drl.pho = A gerber file showing drill sizes and locations visually. Not really important. I use it to verify that I got all the correct drill sizes for the footprints.
3. project-drl.rpt = plain text file reporting drill sizes, number of holes etc. This data is already included in the project-drl.pho file, and is redundant.

Finally, what goes to Drokbotpdx is the various the .pho files along with the project.drl file.



Best Regards,

Anool Mahidharia? (anool@...)
anool.m@...








On 6/6/2012 10:55 PM, Eric Thompson wrote:

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Eagle offers the options for PCB services to distribute design rule and CAM jobs files. I've been chatting with the person who runs the DorbotPDX PCB service??in hopes of getting KiCAD listed as an option on their website along with Eagle. I know they don't need specific instructions for KiCAD to work with the service, but I just figure if there are some KiCAD specific instructions out there it makes things easier for KiCAD users or for people considering KiCAD.


He asked me if KiCAD has anything like Eagle's design rule file and CAM jobs files??

From what I can tell the gerber file plot options are stored inside the PCB file under a section called "PcbPlotParams". So if nothing else I guess it would be possible to paste in or script in the settings for the plot options into a project.?

- Eric