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Re: status of Protel to KiCAD conversion tools

 

Hi Andrew,

The Protel ASCII format is not compatible with the P-Cad 200x ASCII format.
Thus pcad2kicad can not be directly used for translation from Protel to KiCad. May be there is some indirect approach.

Protel ASCII format:?
P-Cad 2006 ASCII format:?

Best regards,
Alexander Lunev?


From: lynchaj
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:14 PM
Subject: [kicad-users] status of Protel to KiCAD conversion tools

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Hi

Has anyone tried the Protel to KiCAD conversion tools recently? How well do they working importing a schematic and/or PCB layout?

There is a sourceforge page which I think is related

http://pcad2kicad.sourceforge.net/

I am asking because there is a legacy PCB project trapped in the Protel format and I am wondering what options are available to convert to a free/open solution or if it is lost to proprietary obscurity.

Thanks!

Andrew Lynch




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Re: status of Protel to KiCAD conversion tools

Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo
 

I think the original author is working and have a C++ version now, they are also discussing how to include
support inside kicad to load Pcad files as a plugin.

Gretings,

2012/6/27 lynchaj <lynchaj@...>

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Hi

Has anyone tried the Protel to KiCAD conversion tools recently? How well do they working importing a schematic and/or PCB layout?

There is a sourceforge page which I think is related



I am asking because there is a legacy PCB project trapped in the Protel format and I am wondering what options are available to convert to a free/open solution or if it is lost to proprietary obscurity.

Thanks!

Andrew Lynch




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status of Protel to KiCAD conversion tools

lynchaj
 

Hi

Has anyone tried the Protel to KiCAD conversion tools recently? How well do they working importing a schematic and/or PCB layout?

There is a sourceforge page which I think is related



I am asking because there is a legacy PCB project trapped in the Protel format and I am wondering what options are available to convert to a free/open solution or if it is lost to proprietary obscurity.

Thanks!

Andrew Lynch


Wishlist item : ODB++ output

Koenraad Lelong
 

Hi,

I work in a company that assembles electronics. One requirement we have is that the boards have a CAM-file. This is a file in a format as GenCAD, Fabmaster or ODB++. I know Kicad has a GenCAD-exporter but a while ago that did have some bugs (I don't know the actual status). A problem to get those bugs resolved is that it seems there are no free viewers to validate the code.
I just got a mail from a list that contained a message stating a new organisation is started, to promote ODB++. It seems registering with that organisation is free and then you have access to the spec and a free viewer.
Would this be interesting to include in Kicad ?
A link :

Regards,

Koenraad Lelong


Want to contact TAIWAN Kicad users

 

Hi,
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I am currently living in taiwan.
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I would like to contact designers here for a custom board, or just for general training?on Kicad.
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Thanks,
Ramon


Re: problem with double aop module

lebloa.christophe
 

Thank's for your repply,now it's ok

finally i'd fined a lot of pr¨¦cisions in the help tutorial of Eesch¨¦matic (chapter 11.6.8:"pins for multi parts and double repr¨¦sentation)
(chapter 11.6.8:"pins for multi parts and double repr¨¦sentation)
-- In kicad-users@..., "lebloa.christophe" <lebloa.christophe@...> wrote:

Hi,
I want to make a pcb with a double aop,so i try to use in the library
the linear componant "tl072", in the sch¨¦matic it's ok, after
anotation the r¨¦f¨¦rence of the first tl072 is "U1A " and the
second is "U1B".
But after generate the netlist and open CVPCB there is just one tl072
call "U1", and when i open it in PCBnew, the module of tl072 (dip 8-300)
is missing ??!
someone has a solution for this problem, is it a bug or may be i forget
to do something ? thank's

Christophe.
Thank's for your repply,now it's ok

finally i'd fined a lot of pr¨¦cisions in the help tutorial of Eesch¨¦matic (chapter 11.6.8:"pins for multi parts and double repr¨¦sentation).And mainly,in pcbnews, the file "dipsocket" is not include in the library by default.So don't remember it.

Christophe


Re: Two questions re dimension and cursor positioning

Andy Eskelson
 

What I do is hit the spacebar to zero the relative co-ord display, then I
can move the line and just nudge one value or the other back to zero.

I have encountered the cursor key problem but it's never been enought of
an annoyance to me. I do agree that it would be nice to be able to "drive"
the mouse with the cursor keys


Andy



On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:27:55 -0000
"randyinnc55" <rluck1@...> wrote:

I have two questions regarding PCBnew.

1) Is there a way to lock the dimensioning tool so it only measures orthogonally i.e. only horizontally or vertically? Unless you are dimensioning something at an angle, it's a real pain to use and keep the dimension lines purely horizontal (or vertical).

2) And related, I'm not sure this is a bug or by design, but for fine positioning of elements (including dimensioning lines), it is really handy to use the cursor arrow keys instead of a mouse. But the arrow keys only seem to work when you are zoomed way in. If you are zoomed back so you can see a chunk of the board, the arrow keys seem to move the cursor maybe only zero, one, or two clicks or so, and then stop and get stuck. I typically have the grid size for positioning things at 1 or 0.5 mil because that's the typical resolution that US board houses work at. The issue almost has the feel that if the grid size of the layout is smaller than the pixel size on the screen, the arrow key positioning of the cursors won't work. I would have expected the cursor positioning by the arrow keys to be based on the internal drawing database rather than the screen pixels.

Thanks,
-Randy



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Two questions re dimension and cursor positioning

 

I have two questions regarding PCBnew.

1) Is there a way to lock the dimensioning tool so it only measures orthogonally i.e. only horizontally or vertically? Unless you are dimensioning something at an angle, it's a real pain to use and keep the dimension lines purely horizontal (or vertical).

2) And related, I'm not sure this is a bug or by design, but for fine positioning of elements (including dimensioning lines), it is really handy to use the cursor arrow keys instead of a mouse. But the arrow keys only seem to work when you are zoomed way in. If you are zoomed back so you can see a chunk of the board, the arrow keys seem to move the cursor maybe only zero, one, or two clicks or so, and then stop and get stuck. I typically have the grid size for positioning things at 1 or 0.5 mil because that's the typical resolution that US board houses work at. The issue almost has the feel that if the grid size of the layout is smaller than the pixel size on the screen, the arrow key positioning of the cursors won't work. I would have expected the cursor positioning by the arrow keys to be based on the internal drawing database rather than the screen pixels.

Thanks,
-Randy


Re: Problem with kicad specctra export with round corners on board

 

Yes, I've seen this, and it's a pain. You might find it easiest to simply draw the board edge as a rectangle for Freerouting, or as Aaron suggests chamfer the corners. However, what I found was that it was important how I drew the board edge. I had to draw each element in turn in the correct order. If the board has four corners A, B, C, and D, I had to draw A to B, B to C, C to D, D to A. Anything else resulted in the error message you have reported. Arcs proved to be impossible to use.

I suspect the bug is caused by kicad looking at the start and end of each *line* and *as defined in the .brd file*, and checking they match. If you understand why that approach is flawed, you'll understand how to workaround the problem.

Regards,

Robert.

On 22/06/2012 12:05, Luis Rossi wrote:
Hi, i am designing a board with kicad and i will be using round corners at
my board. I would like to take a try with freerout, however i am having a
problem with my board edge. The edges are all interconnected, but it is
throwing an error of dicontinuity. Any one ever had a similar problem? Any
simple workaround?

Regards,
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Re: Problem with kicad specctra export with round corners on board

Aaron Wolfe
 

No experience with that problem here, but could you ?45 the corners instead of rounding them just for Freerout, and then switch back to round when you bring it back to KiCad?


From: Luis Rossi <sink00@...>
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:05 AM
Subject: [kicad-users] Problem with kicad specctra export with round corners on board

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Hi, i am designing a board with kicad and i will be using round corners at my board. I would like to take a try with freerout, however i am having a problem with my board edge. The edges are all interconnected, but it is throwing an error of dicontinuity. Any one ever had a similar problem? Any simple workaround?

Regards,

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Biomechatronics Lab. / Grupo de Sensores Integr¨¢veis e Sistemas
Escola Polit¨¦cnica
Universidade de S?o Paulo
Cel. +55 (11) 7662-9234




Problem with kicad specctra export with round corners on board

 

Hi, i am designing a board with kicad and i will be using round corners at my board. I would like to take a try with freerout, however i am having a problem with my board edge. The edges are all interconnected, but it is throwing an error of dicontinuity. Any one ever had a similar problem? Any simple workaround?

Regards,

--
Lu¨ªs Filipe Rossi
Electrical Engineer
Biomechatronics Lab. / Grupo de Sensores Integr¨¢veis e Sistemas
Escola Polit¨¦cnica
Universidade de S?o Paulo
Cel. +55 (11) 7662-9234


Re: PCB visibility and layer questions

 

Ahh, OK, thanks, I didn't see that render tab. I'll play around with it and see if I can get an assembly drawing out of it.

This is the first board I have done with KiCad, I'm used to the behavior of OrCad Layout.

--- In kicad-users@..., Aaron Wolfe <a_wolfie@...> wrote:

As far as I know, that is the way it is.?? The reference designators are on the "Render" tab to turn them on and off.?? I do not know of a way to include these as if they were a normal layer for printing.?? KiCad just automatically includes designators in the appropriate silkscreen layers (front or back) when you go to print or plot.

Under the plot menu you can choose to plot the "invisible texts" which might solve your #3??? The plot is not directly to print though and it keeps layers separate.?? So to combine them to an assembly drawing it takes a little more effort.

That is the best I can offer, maybe someone else out there has a better solution??? I agree though that this layer control could be improved.




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From: randyinnc55 <rluck1@...>
To: kicad-users@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:30 PM
Subject: [kicad-users] PCB visibility and layer questions


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1) When I place modules on a PCB layout, the text shows both the part value (like "1.0K" or "CD4046B" for example) and the reference designator (like "R5" or "U12" for example). Additionally, the modules typically might have an outline on the silkscreen layer. I have KiCad set up so that the top silkscreen layer is dark cyan colored (default I think). However the part value and reference designators are in a light gray. What layer are they on? If I put text on the top silk layer ("I/O Port" for example) and double click on it, the Text Properties dialog has a drop down that shows it is on the top silk layer. I could change the layer with the drop down if I wanted. If I double click on the part value or reference designator text, the Footprint Text Properties dialog has no such option for setting the layer. What layer are the part value and reference designator texts on? When I print each layer out, these texts are replicated on the top
silkscreen layer only, but if I go the the layer visibility tool bar on the right and uncheck the top silkscreen layer, only the dark cyan things go invisible, not the part value or reference designator texts.

2) A related issue, how would I set it so that the part value and reference designator texts show up on a mechanical or assembly techical layer while at the same time having only the reference designators on the top silkscreen layer? It seems really hokey to have to manually double click on every part's part value text and make set the text visibility to invisible.

3) If I go to the layer visibility tool bar on the right and uncheck all the layers, I would expect each layer to become invisible one by one. Eventually nothing should be visible. But all the parts remain. If they are SMT parts, they are colored like the top copper layer (sorry, Front), but all the top copper traces go invisible while the top side SMT parts remain. What layer are the parts on?

Thanks!





Re: Copper zone problem

 

Empirically, I see that the error message is in error so my problem is solved.

But here is the link to the German post:



Thanks,
-Randy

--- In kicad-users@..., Oliver Kirsch <oliver.d.kirsch@...> wrote:

I have just done a 4 layer PCB layout with KiCad and am trying to make the inner plane layers. I click on the Add Filled Zones button on the right tool bar and the cursor changes to the pen shape. Then I go to draw the zone outline and click. The Zone Properties dialog pops up. I select the net that I want connected to the copper plane (GND for example) and click OK. An Error box pops up that says "Thermal relief spoke width is large than the minimum width". This is unexpected because the previous Zone properties dialog says that the Miniumum Width is 0.0080" and the Spoke Width is 0.0060". I did a Google search on this error and it turned up a forum discussion from several years ago on this issue but it is unfortunately for me posted in German. Does anyone have a clue as to what this error message is trying to tell me?
Hi,

I don't know about your actual problem, but if you have a link with the
German post I could translate/summarize it for you.

Regards,
Oli