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Re: SB-1000


 

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I believe those were peak *input* power levels. This is what upset AM fans so much when it was changed to 1500 W peak output, because they could get more than 1500 W peak? power with 2000 W peak input running Class C plate modulation.

73,

Kim N5OP

On 4/17/2025 5:46 PM, Dave w6de wrote:

Grids don¡¯t have enough thermal mass for protection like a plate has.? Exceeding peak values are enough to blow out a grid.

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Many moons ago, I had a Henry 3-KA it had a pair of Eimac 3-500Zs had sheet metal plates and ~ 3500 Volts on the plates.? It was a beast.? It was a mess when I bought it.? I had to rebuilt the plate circuit wiring and replace the noisy plate circuit fan.? I replaced the fan with a more powerful Dayton squirrel cage blower.

This was in the days when the US FCC power limits were 2K peak output.? The FCC intended that 2K peak to be for SSB. ?But the rule was written 2KW peak.? 2KW peak for SSB is also 2 KW peak for CW. ?At that power level the plates were a nice dull red¡ªjust like the spec sheets says.? And a Bird Wattmeter indicated 2 KW output¡ªprobably exceeded the 500 Watt per tube dissipation but the greater air volume helped mitigate that some.? Worked out well for a bunch of CQ World-Wide Contests.

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73,

Dave, w6de

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kim Elmore via groups.io
Sent: 17 April, 2025 19:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ham-amplifiers] SB-1000

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I can¡¯t help but chime in: RMS is the only value that makes sense. Outlet voltage in your house is 120 V RMS. There¡¯s no such thing as ¡°RMS power¡±; peak power come from peak RMS values.?

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Kim

N5OP

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On Apr 17, 2025, at 11:55, KG2RG via groups.io <justinandyazny@...> wrote:

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Duty cycle is considered. These are peak voltage obtained by 100% duty cycle continues wave.

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the Eimac formula for calculating grid dissipation is based on peak.?
Pg = vga X Ig

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anyway, anything I state is like I said, this is what I know, how I calculate it. I¡¯m not an engineer, just an amateur. There are plenty of engineers floating around here and if I¡¯m incorrect, I would love to be corrected as that would benefit myself and I¡¯m always open to learning more. Any day I can learn is a day of victory.

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PS, this stuff is the fun part of the hobby!?

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73!!

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Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology, CCM, PP SEL/MEL/Glider, UAS, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)

¡°Listen, it's too big a world to be in competition with everybody else. The only guy I have to get better than is who I am right now.¡± ¨C Col. Sherman T. Potter, 4077 M.A.S.H.

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