Yes, I can see your confusion.
I would have thought that Carl's estimate of 13V would have been pretty
close to the mark, as the circuit I have for a 3-1000Z running at 3kV,
has 0V bias and idles at 180mA.
Your 39V and 225mA idling current seems way out of whack but I can't
dispute what you are seeing.
For now, your suggested solution of adding? 24V into the bias line
sounds ok but as I have not had any experience with the 3-1000Z, I'll
bow to someone who has been there and done it.
Cheers and good luck.
Alek. VK6APK
On 8/04/2019 10:41 AM, '
clark@...'
clark@... [ham_amplifiers] wrote:
I understand. But he suggested -13 volts. So I am
confused
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Carl was talking 100mA ZSAC, not -100V bias voltage.
Cheers, Alek.
VK6APK
On 8/04/2019 9:41 AM, 'clark@...'
clark@...
[ham_amplifiers] wrote:
I understand the differences in class and imd.
However. 13 volts won't cut the tube off to 100 ma. I have the amp here
with the triode board all the way up at 225 ma.? Turn it down and its
300 ma.? -100 suggests the class c bias point. At 39, what the bias
board is maxed is 225.? Would 50 or 60 volts not be required?
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Class C bias means zero Ip in standby, my comment was right out
of
the Eimac
tube manual for Class B modulators and 100 ma PER tube idle current.
Class B is class B no matter what your using it d the
tube
curves will
show you a wide range of bias within that Class. I do that with AM
linears
such as a Clipperton L and run it deeper into B than for SSB. Actual
measured IMD barely changes but the wasted dissipation drops way down
to the
point I can run 1000W PEP out with just 572B color on voice peaks.
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: Clark Turner
clark@... [ham_amplifiers]
To:
ham_amplifiers@...
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ham_amplifiers] Bias Boards
Thanks for the reply Carl. I am confused as to your suggestion to use
-13
volts. I am using -39 now and its still 225 MA at 4000 volts. The Sheet
lists -100 to be Class C bias.
C
On 4/7/2019 11:48 AM, 'Carl' km1h@...
[ham_amplifiers] wrote:
My experience with the Alpha and a few later EBS circuits is that the
switching transient spike goes out over the air.
Several have commented the same about the AL-80B circuit and they have
removed it, but I havent had one in here recently to test.
The 3-1000Z is fine with 100 ma idle at 5000V in Class B and ~ -13V
bias.
Carl
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From: Clark Turner
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To:
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Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 12:54 PM
Subject: [ham_amplifiers] Bias Boards
I have a BTI LK2000(single 3-1000Z) that I have rebuilt a few years ago.
The Power supply had previously been changed to a traditional Choke
input from the factory doubler supply. The transformer was 120 volt
primary and was limited.
I obtained a Hypersil transformer with 220 volt primary. Its a 1.5 amp
model. I used a replacement Diode board with metering circuit for an
ALpha 77 I found on ebay along with a 40MFD Oil cap. TO finish it off I
used a large contactor.
The amp runs 4000 volts(low tap) on the plate as measured and had 350MA
of idle. I used Tony's Triode bias board and that got me down to 225MA
with the board turned up max. The amp runs HOT and requires a second
fan on top of the cabinet to extract heat.
I planned to alter the Bias board with a 20 to 24 volt 1 watt Zener
diode as described on the website. This should get me 50 something
volts of bias to cut the idle current back more. 100ma?
Has anyone used the EBS-1 bias board? It seems that this approach cuts
the tube off with no drive and has no bias as the drive comes up. I
wonder if this is a worth while system? Any drawbacks?
I do plan to upgrade the blower motor for increased air flow but cannot
find a blower with the motor on the same side as this one. It is no
longer available. I plan to retrofit something in the amp while I am
working on the bias.
C
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