Mark, I think CBT593 has everything you need Dave ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark A. Stevens via groups.io
Sent: 15 April 2022 18:21
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] Assembler G (ASMGASM) #project #VMCE? I've begun looking into porting University of Walterloo's Assembler G to VM/370 CE.
Other than "Why?" (Because ;-)? ...? I believe it would be useful on VM/370 CE) are there any other questions, or concerns?
Are there other wishes or projects people would like to see implemented?
I believe Bob & Dave are working on the next release. Anything needed to help with that?
?... Mark S.
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Mark, ? Something I have looked at but it seems to be in somewhat of a mess. I am sure I have pointed you to this before ?
? but it still has interesting information ? Dave ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark A. Stevens via groups.io
Sent: 15 April 2022 18:21
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] Assembler G (ASMGASM) #project #VMCE? I've begun looking into porting University of Walterloo's Assembler G to VM/370 CE.
Other than "Why?" (Because ;-)? ...? I believe it would be useful on VM/370 CE) are there any other questions, or concerns?
Are there other wishes or projects people would like to see implemented?
I believe Bob & Dave are working on the next release. Anything needed to help with that?
?... Mark S.
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I've begun looking into porting University of Walterloo's Assembler G to VM/370 CE.
Other than "Why?" (Because ;-)? ...? I believe it would be useful on VM/370 CE) are there any other questions, or concerns?
Are there other wishes or projects people would like to see implemented?
I believe Bob & Dave are working on the next release. Anything needed to help with that?
?... Mark S.
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On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 01:56 PM, " [email protected] Notification" < [email protected]> wrote:
Mark A. Stevens <marXtevens@...> added folder /Hunt the Wumpus
The source files are in zip files, and not in a tape format? (.het or .aws) file. You can just upload them to your A disk, but if you want them on "tape" please let me know. ?... Mark S.
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Mark A. Stevens <marXtevens@...> added folder /Hunt the Wumpus
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Re: Additional Help Files
Although this is off topic, looks like Mark A's BWBASIC learning ought to be captured in a comfort blanket BWBASIC EXEC that does the correct setup. Our BWBASIC is also a bit behind the times version wise.... but perhaps a new topic needs to be fired up for that chat.
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Re: Additional Help Files
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 05:53 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
bwbasic
?Bywater BASIC Interpreter/Shell, version 2.50
?Copyright (c) 1993, Ted A. Campbell
?Copyright (c) 1995-1997, Jon B. Volkoff
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OPEN ERROR CODE '04' ON 'PDP000HD'.
I have figured out, if I use the following FILEDEF I get rid of the error. In addition, input and print to the terminal work better.filedef pdp000hd terminal ( perm upcaseI Hope This Helps ?... Mark S.
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Never mind everyone, my mistake.
The output is printing fine.
Thanks.
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Drew,? Thanks.? My only interest is to start printing down from the perf so I have a 3 line empty margin.
On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 5:48 PM Drew Derbyshire < swhobbit@...> wrote: Your message makes me curious on a number of levels,?but I'll just focus and tell you look on MAINT's 394 disk.? ?:-)
-ahd-
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Your message makes me curious on a number of levels,?but I'll just focus and tell you look on MAINT's 394 disk.? ?:-)
-ahd-
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If you are running CE 1.1.1 then you need to follow the instructions in “MAINT MEMO B” otherwise, you will build a CP without the VM CE mods. ? Its pretty straight forward, should take about 10 minutes. ? Dave ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joe Monk
Sent: 09 April 2022 19:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Time zone?? SYSGEN for CP. Macro is SYSTIME. Page 175 in this book... ? OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone like I would with PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run the TK4- system. I know the hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but I'd like other things to run on CDT (GMT-5)...so, for example, the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5 like they're supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on.
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Jay, I can confirm that the CP file to change is DMKSYS ASSEMBLE. You will need to check which is the current file. I am in the process of changing my 3 pack, 4 packs, 5 packs and 6 packs to have the line:- SYSTIME ZONE=1,LOC=EAST,ID=BST . Having done that you need to assemble the file using VMFASM DMKSYS DMKHRC and then generate the CP nucleus. Details of this for the 6 pack are in SYSPROG MEMO. I haven't yet looked at CE 1.1.1. Each build of VM370 seems slightly different. CE 1.1.1 seems to be detailed in MAINT MEMO. Chris -- <cjar1950@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 13:53:15 -0500 "Joe Monk" <joemonk64@...> wrote: SYSGEN for CP.
Macro is SYSTIME. Page 175 in this book...
Joe
On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 12:15 PM Jay Maynard <jaymaynard@...> wrote:
OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone like I would with
PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run the TK4- system. I know the
hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but I'd like other things to run on CDT
(GMT-5)...so, for example, the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5
like they're supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on.
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Jay Maynard
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SYSGEN for CP.
Macro is SYSTIME. Page 175 in this book...
Joe
OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone like I would with PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run the TK4- system. I know the hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but I'd like other things to run on CDT (GMT-5)...so, for example, the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5 like they're supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on. --
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Hi Jay,
The CP source member is DMKSYS ASSEMBLE.? To change it requires a
re-assembly of the module and a rebuild of the Nucleus.? The
information can be found in the IBM Virtual Machine Facility/370:
Planning and System Generation Guide GC20-1801-10.? Not for the
faint of heart, but with a good backup, its do-able.
Regards,
Gary
On 4/9/22 13:15, Jay Maynard wrote:
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OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone
like I would with PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run
the TK4- system. I know the hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but
I'd like other things to run on CDT (GMT-5)...so, for example,
the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5 like they're
supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on.
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I don’t think you can. ?I remember writing a CP mod for VM/ESA 2.2 ish that added per-VM time zones clock offsets but I don’t have that mod available.
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On Apr 9, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Jay Maynard <jaymaynard@...> wrote:
? OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone like I would with PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run the TK4- system. I know the hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but I'd like other things to run on CDT (GMT-5)...so, for example, the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5 like they're supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on. --
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OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone like I would with PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run the TK4- system. I know the hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but I'd like other things to run on CDT (GMT-5)...so, for example, the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5 like they're supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on. --
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Hi Mark,
I agree that the LKED?command can produce members in a LOADLIB. In VM/370, the use of such a library is as input to the GEN3705 CMS command. It is possible that some other special purpose program could be built? that could load from the LOADLIB, but CMS in VM/370 has no code that would support a GLOBAL LOADLIB command or any code to support use of LOAD files by LINK, LOAD, or ATTACH OS simulation interfaces within a CMS program.?
When I move the ASSIST code into the VM370CE release track, I will have a version I can try to understand how the ASSIST LOADLIB could possibly be used. I'm just swamped currently with other tasks.
/Bob?
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Hello,
I'm needing to change the FCB1 functionality under VM/ESA 2.4 and I've no clue how to get started.? The IBM publications refer to a 3211FCB1 ASSEMBLE but I' don't know where it is.? I'm wanting to change the FCB to start print on line 4 instead of line 1.
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On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 09:26 AM, Bob Bolch wrote:
OK, I'm interested in what you mean by 'usable modules'.
Could you elaborate on the filetype produced and how they are used, please?
Sorry for the delay,? my wife and I are watching our grandson 4 days/week, and the off day gets used for catchup.
In the ASSIST package that is in this group's files section,
/g/h390-vm/files/ASSIST_VM370_etc
and the github entry,
is a tape (2022-03-21.ASSIST.191.aws ) that is loaded to the ASSIST 191 minidisk, which contains a script ASBUILD? EXEC, which contains the following lines which build a usable LOADLIB, for non-ASSIST programs to use when they call one of the routines, in the LOADLIB....SAY 'Building XMSOURCE LOADLIB. Allows routines to be used by'SAY 'non-ASSIST Assembler programs.'????????????????????????????????????? /* SYSLIB is input file of TEXT */????????????????????????????????????? /* records to be link edited.?? */'FILEDEF SYSLIB DISK XMSOURCE TXTLIB A (PERM'????????????????????????????????????? /* Link edit each member and put*/????????????????????????????????????? /* it in a LOADLIB.???????????? */'LKED XXXXDECI (XREF LIBE XMSOURCE PRINT''LKED XXXXDECO (XREF LIBE XMSOURCE PRINT''LKED XXXXGET? (XREF LIBE XMSOURCE PRINT''LKED XXXXOPEN (XREF LIBE XMSOURCE PRINT''LKED XXXXPNCH (XREF LIBE XMSOURCE PRINT''LKED XXXXPRNT (XREF LIBE XMSOURCE PRINT''LKED XXXXPUT? (XREF LIBE XMSOURCE PRINT''LKED XXXXREAD (XREF LIBE XMSOURCE PRINT''LKED XXXXSNAP (XREF LIBE XMSOURCE PRINT''FILEDEF SYSLIB CLEAR'??????????????? /* Remove SYSLIB definition.??? */
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The original VM/SP script I wrote, (see tape, 2022-03-21.ASSIST.193.aws, ASSIST 193,? XMSOLKED EXEC), just does the the above. I copied the code verbatim into my ASBUILD EXEC, and as far as I can tell it 'works as advertised.'I'm trying to find a test program that I used, but so far, it is escaping my attention.?... Mark S.
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Hi Mark,? OK, I'm interested in what you mean by 'usable modules'. Could you elaborate on the filetype produced and how they are used, please? /B
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 10:16 AM Mark A. Stevens via <marXtevens= [email protected]> wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 04:07 AM, Bob Bolch wrote:
Since LKED?produces an object which?cannot be loaded or executed in VM/370 CMS,
why do we want to document it??
Bob
Because it CAN and DOES produce usable modules. :-) I used it for building ASSIST for VM/370. This is how I discovered there was no online help for it.
Of course, as Dave stated it can produce unusable modules, too.
?... Mark S.
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