Re: Additional Help Files
David, ? I assume this is BWBASIC which has never run on OS but is a “C” Unix program. When you see a DD name like “PDP000HD” it usually means that the “C” code has issued an open with a file name, and the “C” run time has issued a “FILEDEF” to open the file. For some reason the options on the generated FILEDEF don’t match those the program needs. ? Dave ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Durand
Sent: 15 April 2022 21:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Additional Help Files? The error from basic probably reflects that it's a port from OS, which would have had a DD card to map the PDP000HD file. I don't know about this implementation of basic, or its use of this the particular file, but given that output is broken I'd try something like:
FILEDEF PDP000HD TERM (LRECL 80 RECFM? V
Of course if it's supposed to mapped to a scratch disk file that won't help. I'm not able to test this right now, but it's worth a try.
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Re: Additional Help Files
The error from basic probably reflects that it's a port from OS, which would have had a DD card to map the PDP000HD file. I don't know about this implementation of basic, or its use of this the particular file, but given that output is broken I'd try something like:
FILEDEF PDP000HD TERM (LRECL 80 RECFM? V
Of course if it's supposed to mapped to a scratch disk file that won't help. I'm not able to test this right now, but it's worth a try.
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If VM/370 R6 supports it, I'd use VMARC files.
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Hi Mark,
? ?It's perfectly fine to do the port, if that's what interests you. A download with good instructions is a good way to gauge interest. I am wondering who would use this (as opposed to using the IBM ASM F level assembler)?
Also, there are lot's of open issues to work on at?? Email me if you want to be assigned one (or more) of them.
Thanks/Bob
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Mark S. mentioned the next VMCE release, so here are some thoughts on that.?
As far as helping with the next release, please refer to the issue list at: The items marked "fixed in next release" are all included in the release candidate system I use for integration testing. Those items have code in place, HELP files added or updated, and "readme" file entries to document them. The items marked "wontfix" are not planned for the system.
The remaining entries are in various states between?almost ready and not yet started.
Because it has been almost a year since the last release, I want to get something out as soon as possible. That means some things won't be fixed in the next release, but will be delayed?until next year.?
If you see an item you want to work on, or need more info, please email me directly at Bob@... to let me know what you want to work on, and I can send you any partial work I may have done. Some expertise is required.?
Bob
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Mark, I think CBT593 has everything you need Dave ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark A. Stevens via groups.io
Sent: 15 April 2022 18:21
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] Assembler G (ASMGASM) #project #VMCE? I've begun looking into porting University of Walterloo's Assembler G to VM/370 CE.
Other than "Why?" (Because ;-)? ...? I believe it would be useful on VM/370 CE) are there any other questions, or concerns?
Are there other wishes or projects people would like to see implemented?
I believe Bob & Dave are working on the next release. Anything needed to help with that?
?... Mark S.
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Mark, ? Something I have looked at but it seems to be in somewhat of a mess. I am sure I have pointed you to this before ?
? but it still has interesting information ? Dave ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark A. Stevens via groups.io
Sent: 15 April 2022 18:21
To: [email protected]
Subject: [h390-vm] Assembler G (ASMGASM) #project #VMCE? I've begun looking into porting University of Walterloo's Assembler G to VM/370 CE.
Other than "Why?" (Because ;-)? ...? I believe it would be useful on VM/370 CE) are there any other questions, or concerns?
Are there other wishes or projects people would like to see implemented?
I believe Bob & Dave are working on the next release. Anything needed to help with that?
?... Mark S.
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I've begun looking into porting University of Walterloo's Assembler G to VM/370 CE.
Other than "Why?" (Because ;-)? ...? I believe it would be useful on VM/370 CE) are there any other questions, or concerns?
Are there other wishes or projects people would like to see implemented?
I believe Bob & Dave are working on the next release. Anything needed to help with that?
?... Mark S.
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On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 01:56 PM, " [email protected] Notification" < [email protected]> wrote:
Mark A. Stevens <marXtevens@...> added folder /Hunt the Wumpus
The source files are in zip files, and not in a tape format? (.het or .aws) file. You can just upload them to your A disk, but if you want them on "tape" please let me know. ?... Mark S.
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Mark A. Stevens <marXtevens@...> added folder /Hunt the Wumpus
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Re: Additional Help Files
Although this is off topic, looks like Mark A's BWBASIC learning ought to be captured in a comfort blanket BWBASIC EXEC that does the correct setup. Our BWBASIC is also a bit behind the times version wise.... but perhaps a new topic needs to be fired up for that chat.
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Re: Additional Help Files
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 05:53 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
bwbasic
?Bywater BASIC Interpreter/Shell, version 2.50
?Copyright (c) 1993, Ted A. Campbell
?Copyright (c) 1995-1997, Jon B. Volkoff
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OPEN ERROR CODE '04' ON 'PDP000HD'.
I have figured out, if I use the following FILEDEF I get rid of the error. In addition, input and print to the terminal work better.filedef pdp000hd terminal ( perm upcaseI Hope This Helps ?... Mark S.
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Never mind everyone, my mistake.
The output is printing fine.
Thanks.
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Drew,? Thanks.? My only interest is to start printing down from the perf so I have a 3 line empty margin.
On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 5:48 PM Drew Derbyshire < swhobbit@...> wrote: Your message makes me curious on a number of levels,?but I'll just focus and tell you look on MAINT's 394 disk.? ?:-)
-ahd-
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Your message makes me curious on a number of levels,?but I'll just focus and tell you look on MAINT's 394 disk.? ?:-)
-ahd-
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If you are running CE 1.1.1 then you need to follow the instructions in “MAINT MEMO B” otherwise, you will build a CP without the VM CE mods. ? Its pretty straight forward, should take about 10 minutes. ? Dave ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joe Monk
Sent: 09 April 2022 19:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Time zone?? SYSGEN for CP. Macro is SYSTIME. Page 175 in this book... ? OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone like I would with PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run the TK4- system. I know the hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but I'd like other things to run on CDT (GMT-5)...so, for example, the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5 like they're supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on.
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Jay, I can confirm that the CP file to change is DMKSYS ASSEMBLE. You will need to check which is the current file. I am in the process of changing my 3 pack, 4 packs, 5 packs and 6 packs to have the line:- SYSTIME ZONE=1,LOC=EAST,ID=BST . Having done that you need to assemble the file using VMFASM DMKSYS DMKHRC and then generate the CP nucleus. Details of this for the 6 pack are in SYSPROG MEMO. I haven't yet looked at CE 1.1.1. Each build of VM370 seems slightly different. CE 1.1.1 seems to be detailed in MAINT MEMO. Chris -- <cjar1950@...> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 9 Apr 2022 13:53:15 -0500 "Joe Monk" <joemonk64@...> wrote: SYSGEN for CP.
Macro is SYSTIME. Page 175 in this book...
Joe
On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 12:15 PM Jay Maynard <jaymaynard@...> wrote:
OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone like I would with
PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run the TK4- system. I know the
hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but I'd like other things to run on CDT
(GMT-5)...so, for example, the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5
like they're supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on.
--
Jay Maynard
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SYSGEN for CP.
Macro is SYSTIME. Page 175 in this book...
Joe
OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone like I would with PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run the TK4- system. I know the hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but I'd like other things to run on CDT (GMT-5)...so, for example, the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5 like they're supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on. --
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Hi Jay,
The CP source member is DMKSYS ASSEMBLE.? To change it requires a
re-assembly of the module and a rebuild of the Nucleus.? The
information can be found in the IBM Virtual Machine Facility/370:
Planning and System Generation Guide GC20-1801-10.? Not for the
faint of heart, but with a good backup, its do-able.
Regards,
Gary
On 4/9/22 13:15, Jay Maynard wrote:
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OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone
like I would with PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run
the TK4- system. I know the hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but
I'd like other things to run on CDT (GMT-5)...so, for example,
the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5 like they're
supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on.
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I don’t think you can. ?I remember writing a CP mod for VM/ESA 2.2 ish that added per-VM time zones clock offsets but I don’t have that mod available.
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On Apr 9, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Jay Maynard <jaymaynard@...> wrote:
? OK, so for this VM n00b, how do I set the timezone like I would with PARMTZ in MVS? I'm using the CE 1.1.1 to run the TK4- system. I know the hardware TOD clock runs in GMT, but I'd like other things to run on CDT (GMT-5)...so, for example, the auto monitor start and stop runs at 9 and 5 like they're supposed to instead fo 4 and noon, and so on. --
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