Re: Additional Help Files
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 09:04 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
I am working on help for the following CP commands, Using IBM Virtual Machine Facility/370: CP Command Reference for General Users Release 6 PLC 17
I have placed all the files I have tidied, and added, including the renamed GCIC->RUNGCIC, ... and removed the Lark's Vomit Warning, on the following GitHub repo. This has two versions of a tape map: one from the VM/370 system, and the other using Hercules vmfplc2, along with the help files on an AWS tape. Let me know what else needs to be done ... short of sorting anyone's laundry. ?... Mark S.
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Re: Additional Help Files
I took a look at the GCIC materials. This looks like it is designed to run
in a dedicated never ending server machine, so I am not concerned with the issues
about stopping it from running.?
Is the source code available??
Bob
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Re: Additional Help Files
Mark, ? As far as I can see MECAFF won’t let you have two FSLISTs active. The FSLIST list is not part of the ring. You can re-type an FSLIST command from the EE command line but when you re-enter EE you loose position in the list. That’s not the case with GCIC…. … I also believe that there are bugs in the file transfer module on MECAFF and you can’t do file transfers from FSLIST…. ? Dave ? ?
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Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Additional Help Files? On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 09:36 PM, René Ferland wrote: One thing that GCIC offers which MECAFF doesn't (I think) is two simultaneous FSLIST sessions. You can edit a file in each one, swap between the two, and copy stuff from a file edited in one session to the file edited in the other.??
I had to double check this, but you can. See the PDF at:
2.2.4 Editing multiple files and mode transitions
EE allows editing more than one file at a time. After starting EE with the first file, more files can b
opened for editing or created with the EE subcommand or by selecting a file for editing from the
FSLIST or the FSVIEW modes.
All files opened for editing are held in a ring, from which one file is the currently edited. The
commands RINGNext or RINGPrev switch the currently edited file by stepping through the ring of
files loaded.
The following diagram shows the transitions between the modes of the EE program to start or end
editing files, also showing with the commands (CMD) or default PF keys (PFxx) to change from mode
to mode:
(I'd include the picture, which follows the above text, but it isn't supported/allowed for our discussion list).
... Mark S.
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Re: Additional Help Files
On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 05:47 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
I had to double check this, but you can. See the PDF at: https://usermanual.wiki/Pdf/MECAFFtoolsManual125.2000842143.pdf
Oh! That's great! Thanks for checking this and correcting me. However, truth is, I never used that feature in GCIC, which explains in part my ignorance of it regarding EE. Cheers, Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: Additional Help Files
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 09:36 PM, René Ferland wrote:
One thing that GCIC offers which MECAFF doesn't (I think) is two simultaneous FSLIST sessions. You can edit a file in each one, swap between the two, and copy stuff from a file edited in one session to the file edited in the other.??
I had to double check this, but you can. See the PDF at: https://usermanual.wiki/Pdf/MECAFFtoolsManual125.2000842143.pdf2.2.4 Editing multiple files and mode transitionsEE allows editing more than one file at a time. After starting EE with the first file, more files can beopened for editing or created with the EE subcommand or by selecting a file for editing from theFSLIST or the FSVIEW modes.
All files opened for editing are held in a ring, from which one file is the currently edited. Thecommands RINGNext or RINGPrev switch the currently edited file by stepping through the ring offiles loaded.
The following diagram shows the transitions between the modes of the EE program to start or endediting files, also showing with the commands (CMD) or default PF keys (PFxx) to change from modeto mode:(I'd include the picture, which follows the above text, but it isn't supported/allowed for our discussion list). ... Mark S.
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Re: Additional Help Files
Mark ? Firstly, I don’t think any one ever changes the passwords supplied. So I am pretty sure I can logon to most machines as “maint” and “cpcms” and be in total charge. You should, I would have thought, be able to copy the users file to your “A” disk and edit it so you have a unique password but that doesn’t seem to work… … also I assume you don’t pass port 3270 through your firewall.? I think it is what it is. Probably not worth spending time on, but possibly worth keeping. ? Dave ?
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Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Additional Help Files? On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 07:49 PM, René Ferland wrote: Then, if you wish, you can logon to the virtual machine again. This will reconnect the console, end GCIC and get you back at the CMS Ready prompt, from which you can logoff. :-)
Such as the following ...
L CMSUSER
ENTER PASSWORD:
?
RECONNECTED AT 18:42:26 GMT FRIDAY 01/28/22
KIKS885 NOW WAITING 3 SECONDS FOR TASKS TO FINISH
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 490
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 491
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 492
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 493
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 494
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 495
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 496
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 497
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 498
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 499
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49A
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49B
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49C
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49D
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49E
0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49F
KIKS10 KIKS?? INTERFACE STOPPED
Ready; T=0.02/0.07 18:42:34 After you are done with editing, you can drop from the dial connection.
For new users this would be the tricky part, if they have not used DIAL ("Don't you wish everybody did?") #CP, nor CP DISCONN, nor LOGOFF will get you out of the session. As far as I can tell, you have to allow the session to time out, so you can log back in, per Rene's comments, because disconnecting and reconnecting your 3270 session lands you where you left off.
???????????????????????? MULTI-USER FULL SCREEN INTERFACE? (BROWSE)
================================================================================
??????????????????? #CP DISCONNECT???????????????????????? ?
??????????????????? ----------------------------------------?????????????????? ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
?????? *---------------------------------------------*???????????????????????? ?
?????? * YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED FOR THIS COMMAND???? *???????????????????????? ?
?????? * PLEASE ONLY USE AUTHORIZED COMMANDS???????? *???????????????????????? ?
?????? *---------------------------------------------*???????????????????????? ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
?????? COMMANDS CAN BE ADDED BY? THE DEVELOPMENT? TEAM???????????????????????? ?
?????? CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED COMMANDS ARE:????????????????????????????????????? ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
??????????????????? LINK?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
??????????????????? Q????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
??????????????????? REL????? (EXCEPT A OR B )????????????????????????????????? ?
??????????????????? ACC????? (EXCEPT 191 OR 192)?????????????????????????????? ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?
?????????? PRESS ANY KEY TO RETURN,? DEC=00999,HEX=03E7???????????????
Without additional documentation, I don't see this as very useful. ALSO, your password is typed 'en clair', for anyone to see (as if my dog can type.)
?... Mark S.
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Re: Additional Help Files
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 05:00 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
>> As far as I can tell, you have to allow the session to time out, so you can log back in, per Rene's comments, because disconnecting and reconnecting your 3270 session lands you where you left off.
No, you don't have to wait for the time out, just press PF3 often enough.?
>>? Without additional documentation, I don't see this as very useful.
I agree. However, I remember that, before MECAFF became available, I used GCIC for file transfer (IND$FILE style), an available feature of GCIC.
>> ALSO, your password is typed 'en clair', for anyone to see.
Moreover, the password to use has to be the one specified in GCIC USERS Y2, not the one in the directory. And, any user/password in that file can be used to access the files of the virtual machine on which GCIC runs (and only them).
One thing that GCIC offers which MECAFF doesn't (I think) is two simultaneous FSLIST sessions. You can edit a file in each one, swap between the two, and copy stuff from a file edited in one session to the file edited in the other.??
Cheers,
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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Re: Additional Help Files
I am working on help for the following CP commands, Using IBM Virtual Machine Facility/370: CP Command Reference for General Users Release 6 PLC 17
DIAL???? HELPCMD? D1? F??? 80???? 17????? 2? 2022-01-28 19:20? XMAS92
IPL????? HELPCMD? D1? F??? 80???? 67????? 7? 2022-01-28 19:48? XMAS92
IPL????? HELPCMD2 D1? F??? 80???? 79????? 8? 2022-01-28 20:10? XMAS92
LOADVFCB HELPCMD? D1? F??? 80???? 31????? 4? 2022-01-28 20:17? XMAS92
LOADVFCB HELPCMD2 D1? F??? 80???? 42????? 5? 2022-01-28 20:34? XMAS92
READ???? HELPCMD? D1? F??? 80???? 12????? 2? 2022-01-28 20:39? XMAS92
READY??? HELPCMD? D1? F??? 80????? 1????? 1? 2022-01-28 19:24? XMAS92
READY??? HELPCMD2 D1? F??? 80????? 5????? 1? 2022-01-28 20:40? XMAS92
SMSG???? HELPCMD? D1? F??? 80????? 1????? 1? 2022-01-28 19:25? XMAS92
SMSG???? HELPCMD2 D1? F??? 80????? 1????? 1? 2022-01-28 20:41? XMAS92
VMDUMP?? HELPCMD? D1? F??? 80????? 1????? 1? 2022-01-28 19:25? XMAS92
I have also modfied some of the document files I received from Dave Wade, splitting them into HELPCMD and HELPCMD2 as appropriate.
?... Mark S.
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Re: Additional Help Files
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 07:49 PM, René Ferland wrote:
Then, if you wish, you can logon to the virtual machine again. This will reconnect the console, end GCIC and get you back at the CMS Ready prompt, from which you can logoff. :-)
Such as the following ...L CMSUSERENTER PASSWORD:?RECONNECTED AT 18:42:26 GMT FRIDAY 01/28/22KIKS885 NOW WAITING 3 SECONDS FOR TASKS TO FINISH0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4900014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4910014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4920014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4930014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4940014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4950014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4960014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4970014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4980014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 4990014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49A0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49B0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49C0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49D0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49E0014 GRC018 CP DETACH?? 49FKIKS10 KIKS?? INTERFACE STOPPEDReady; T=0.02/0.07 18:42:34
After you are done with editing, you can drop from the dial connection.
For new users this would be the tricky part, if they have not used DIAL ("Don't you wish everybody did?") #CP, nor CP DISCONN, nor LOGOFF will get you out of the session. As far as I can tell, you have to allow the session to time out, so you can log back in, per Rene's comments, because disconnecting and reconnecting your 3270 session lands you where you left off. ???????????????????????? MULTI-USER FULL SCREEN INTERFACE? (BROWSE)================================================================================??????????????????? #CP DISCONNECT???????????????????????? ???????????????????? ----------------------------------------?????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????? *---------------------------------------------*???????????????????????? ??????? * YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED FOR THIS COMMAND???? *???????????????????????? ??????? * PLEASE ONLY USE AUTHORIZED COMMANDS???????? *???????????????????????? ??????? *---------------------------------------------*???????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????? COMMANDS CAN BE ADDED BY? THE DEVELOPMENT? TEAM???????????????????????? ??????? CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED COMMANDS ARE:????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????? LINK?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????? Q????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????? REL????? (EXCEPT A OR B )????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????? ACC????? (EXCEPT 191 OR 192)?????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????? PRESS ANY KEY TO RETURN,? DEC=00999,HEX=03E7??????????????? Without additional documentation, I don't see this as very useful. ALSO, your password is typed 'en clair', for anyone to see (as if my dog can type.) ?... Mark S.
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Re: Unable to complete install of Z/VM 6.4 Disabled wait 0902
Thanks Fish.? Setting ?the cu to 3990-6 did the trick. I would have never figured that out on my own.
As to the pageing63. When I was trying to install some version of vm under the old hercules some years ago and having similar issues I had read that as a suggestion in the old hercules group. It didn’t help in any scenario.
Thanks!!!!!
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Re: Additional Help Files
I don't see a need to keep GCIC anymore. We have better alternatives. Bob Bolch
Mark, As other have said no need to FORCE just logon to the disconnected ID and you (almost) have control. It will sometimes crash because its built using old GCC run time modules, but at this point you can logoff or re-ipl cms. ? Every one Is this code still useful? Now we have EE is it necessary? ? Dave ? ? On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 03:30 AM, Dave Wade wrote: If Mark has time to tidy.? I am intending to write some more, but as usual I have been side-lined by project creep elsewhere.
I have a slight problem with the GCIC command, and am considering something along the lines of the following. ;-)
RUNGCIC HELPCMD
RUNGCIC?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? CMS EXEC
GCIC is a full screen editor for VM/370 CE, that uses the DIAL facility of CP,
to peform full screen editng and browsing of CMS files. It is started by
executing the RUNGCIC EXEC.
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| RUNGCIC? |???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|????????????????????????? WARNING LARK'S VOMIT????????????????????????????? |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
When you wish to exit GCIC, you must use the CP FORCE command on the userid
running GCIC.
and RUNGCIC HELPCMD2
Usage Notes:
Execute the RUNGCIC (PROFILE) EXEC file to start the GCIC monitor.? GCIC will
then issue a CP DISCONN(ect), continuing to run in the? background.
From any connected 3270 emulator (including the one you started GCIC from),
issue a:
??????? DIAL <VM-USER-WHERE-GCIC-WAS-STARTED>
such as:
??????? DIAL CMSUSER
You will be prompted:
??????? PRESS ENTER TO CONTINUE
Press the ENTER key, then you should then be greeted by the GCIC Logon screen:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
?PRODUCT OF ROC
????????????????????????? VV??????? VV??? MM??????? MM
????????????????????????? VV??????? VV??? MMM????? MMM
?????????????????? 3333333333???? 777777777777??? MM00000000
????????????????? 333333333333??? 77777777777MM? MM0000000000
????????????????? 33????? VV33??? 77VV??? 77? MMMM00MM????? 00
?????????????????????????? V33???? VV??? 77M?? MM 00MM????? 00
??????????????????????????? 33??? VV??? 77MM????? 00MM????? 00
???????????????????????? 3333VV? VV??? 77 MM????? 00MM????? 00
???????????????????????? 3333 VVVV???? 77 MM????? 00MM????? 00
??????????????????????????? 33 VV????? 77 MM????? 00MM????? 00
??????????????????????????? 33???????? 77???????? 00??????? 00
????????????????? 33??????? 33???????? 77???????? 00??????? 00
????????????????? 333333333333???????? 77????????? 0000000000
???????????????????????? MULTI-USER FULL SCREEN INTERFACE
????????? YOUR VM USER-ID ->? ________ <- PWRD (NDSP) ->??? ________? <-
===============================================================================
????????? PF1=HELP?? ENTER=CONTINUE?? PF3=RETURN
?????????????????????? MULTI-USER FULL SCREEN INTERFACE
??????? YOUR VM USER-ID ->? ________ <- PWRD (NDSP) ->??? ________? <-
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This module is called from the RUNGCIC EXEC.
PLEASE NOTE: You can not LOGOFF of the userid running GCIC. It must be
shut down using the following, where userid is what you DIALed earlier.
CP FORCE userid
See the file, GCIC MEMO U, for details of GCIC.
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Mark, As other have said no need to FORCE just logon to the disconnected ID and you (almost) have control. It will sometimes crash because its built using old GCC run time modules, but at this point you can logoff or re-ipl cms. ? Every one Is this code still useful? Now we have EE is it necessary? ? Dave ?
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Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Additional Help Files? On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 03:30 AM, Dave Wade wrote: If Mark has time to tidy. ?I am intending to write some more, but as usual I have been side-lined by project creep elsewhere.
I have a slight problem with the GCIC command, and am considering something along the lines of the following. ;-)
RUNGCIC HELPCMD
RUNGCIC?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? CMS EXEC
GCIC is a full screen editor for VM/370 CE, that uses the DIAL facility of CP,
to peform full screen editng and browsing of CMS files. It is started by
executing the RUNGCIC EXEC.
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| RUNGCIC? |???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|????????????????????????? WARNING LARK'S VOMIT????????????????????????????? |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
When you wish to exit GCIC, you must use the CP FORCE command on the userid
running GCIC.
and RUNGCIC HELPCMD2
Usage Notes:
Execute the RUNGCIC (PROFILE) EXEC file to start the GCIC monitor.? GCIC will
then issue a CP DISCONN(ect), continuing to run in the? background.
From any connected 3270 emulator (including the one you started GCIC from),
issue a:
??????? DIAL <VM-USER-WHERE-GCIC-WAS-STARTED>
such as:
??????? DIAL CMSUSER
You will be prompted:
??????? PRESS ENTER TO CONTINUE
Press the ENTER key, then you should then be greeted by the GCIC Logon screen:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
?PRODUCT OF ROC
????????????????????????? VV??????? VV??? MM??????? MM
????????????????????????? VV??????? VV??? MMM????? MMM
?????????????????? 3333333333???? 777777777777??? MM00000000
????????????????? 333333333333??? 77777777777MM? MM0000000000
????????????????? 33????? VV33??? 77VV??? 77? MMMM00MM????? 00
?????????????????????????? V33???? VV??? 77M?? MM 00MM????? 00
??????????????????????????? 33??? VV??? 77MM????? 00MM????? 00
???????????????????????? 3333VV? VV??? 77 MM????? 00MM????? 00
???????????????????????? 3333 VVVV???? 77 MM????? 00MM????? 00
??????????????????????????? 33 VV????? 77 MM????? 00MM????? 00
??????????????????????????? 33???????? 77???????? 00??????? 00
????????????????? 33??????? 33???????? 77???????? 00??????? 00
????????????????? 333333333333???????? 77????????? 0000000000
???????????????????????? MULTI-USER FULL SCREEN INTERFACE
????????? YOUR VM USER-ID ->? ________ <- PWRD (NDSP) ->??? ________? <-
===============================================================================
????????? PF1=HELP?? ENTER=CONTINUE?? PF3=RETURN
?????????????????????? MULTI-USER FULL SCREEN INTERFACE
??????? YOUR VM USER-ID ->? ________ <- PWRD (NDSP) ->??? ________? <-
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This module is called from the RUNGCIC EXEC.
PLEASE NOTE: You can not LOGOFF of the userid running GCIC. It must be
shut down using the following, where userid is what you DIALed earlier.
CP FORCE userid
See the file, GCIC MEMO U, for details of GCIC.
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 04:54 PM, Mark A. Stevens wrote:
PLEASE NOTE: You can not LOGOFF of the userid running GCIC. It must be
shut down using the following, where userid is what you DIALed earlier.
CP FORCE userid
It is one possible way but not the only one. GCIC runs in the virtual machine with a disconnected console. After you are done with editing, you can drop from the dial connection. That leaves GCIC still running in the virtual machine. Then, if you wish, you can logon to the virtual machine again. This will reconnect the console, end GCIC and get you back at the CMS Ready prompt, from which you can logoff. :-) A long time ago, I used GCIC to edit files on CMS, typically programs. But I quickly got tired of having to disconnect/dial to edit the file, then drop/reconnect to run the program. I came back to EDIT. If I remember well, GCIC is actually an unfinished project with a "for starter" setup (like its public users file with passwords in clear :-)). Cheers, Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 03:30 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
If Mark has time to tidy. ?I am intending to write some more, but as usual I have been side-lined by project creep elsewhere.
I have a slight problem with the GCIC command, and am considering something along the lines of the following. ;-) RUNGCIC HELPCMD RUNGCIC?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? CMS EXECGCIC is a full screen editor for VM/370 CE, that uses the DIAL facility of CP,to peform full screen editng and browsing of CMS files. It is started byexecuting the RUNGCIC EXEC.+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+| RUNGCIC? |???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+|????????????????????????? WARNING LARK'S VOMIT????????????????????????????? |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+When you wish to exit GCIC, you must use the CP FORCE command on the useridrunning GCIC.
and RUNGCIC HELPCMD2
Usage Notes:
Execute the RUNGCIC (PROFILE) EXEC file to start the GCIC monitor.? GCIC will
then issue a CP DISCONN(ect), continuing to run in the? background.
From any connected 3270 emulator (including the one you started GCIC from),
issue a:
??????? DIAL <VM-USER-WHERE-GCIC-WAS-STARTED>
such as:
??????? DIAL CMSUSER
You will be prompted:
??????? PRESS ENTER TO CONTINUE
Press the ENTER key, then you should then be greeted by the GCIC Logon screen:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
?PRODUCT OF ROC
????????????????????????? VV??????? VV??? MM??????? MM
????????????????????????? VV??????? VV??? MMM????? MMM
?????????????????? 3333333333???? 777777777777??? MM00000000
????????????????? 333333333333??? 77777777777MM? MM0000000000
????????????????? 33????? VV33??? 77VV??? 77? MMMM00MM????? 00
?????????????????????????? V33???? VV??? 77M?? MM 00MM????? 00
??????????????????????????? 33??? VV??? 77MM????? 00MM????? 00
???????????????????????? 3333VV? VV??? 77 MM????? 00MM????? 00
???????????????????????? 3333 VVVV???? 77 MM????? 00MM????? 00
??????????????????????????? 33 VV????? 77 MM????? 00MM????? 00
??????????????????????????? 33???????? 77???????? 00??????? 00
????????????????? 33??????? 33???????? 77???????? 00??????? 00
????????????????? 333333333333???????? 77????????? 0000000000
???????????????????????? MULTI-USER FULL SCREEN INTERFACE
????????? YOUR VM USER-ID ->? ________ <- PWRD (NDSP) ->??? ________? <-
===============================================================================
????????? PF1=HELP?? ENTER=CONTINUE?? PF3=RETURN
?????????????????????? MULTI-USER FULL SCREEN INTERFACE
??????? YOUR VM USER-ID ->? ________ <- PWRD (NDSP) ->??? ________? <-
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This module is called from the RUNGCIC EXEC.
PLEASE NOTE: You can not LOGOFF of the userid running GCIC. It must be
shut down using the following, where userid is what you DIALed earlier.
CP FORCE userid
See the file, GCIC MEMO U, for details of GCIC.
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Re: Unable to complete install of Z/VM 6.4 Disabled wait 0902
[...] ################# note enter pageing63 on sal screen [...] 0640 3390 ... cu=3990
0641 3390 ... cu=3990
0642 3390 ... cu=3990
0643 3390 ... cu=3990
0644 3390 ... cu=3990
0645 3390 ... cu=3990 Try "cu=3990-6" instead. (Hint: the default control unit type of 3990 is NOT the same as a 3990-3 or 3990-6 control unit. They're different. The default generic 3990 control unit specification does not have the same set of features as a 3990-3 or 3990-6. The set of control unit features for each is completely different.) I also question the need to specify the pageing63 option. Have you tried it *without* the pageing63 option? First most likely cause: incorrect cu= specification. Second most likely cause: pageing63. HTH -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Re: Unable to complete install of Z/VM 6.4 Disabled wait 0902
Hi Gary,
what you get looks like a HCP902W which
is an I/O error from your installation resource during ipl when
recovering a system.
So one of your dasds is probably
unreadable.
We had that on a real iron too and we
had to replace a dasd as it did not go away with another attempt
to IPL the system.
Turned out to be a damaged dasd.
Out of curiosity:
You are using Hyperion to emulate a
z/13 to install a z/VM system.
Where did you get the installation
resources?
Or are you running a real iron as well
and are using the installation resource to clone the z/13 on an
emulator?
Thomas
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Greetings all
I'm attempting install Z/VM 6.4
I mount the install iso image ipl from it and all goes well
including loading the RSU. The last thing i see is the define term
conmode 3270 and ipling res volume.
then the disabled wait ........... 0902
Real Hardware: intel i7 with 32G memory
host os is opensuse 15.3 kerenl 5.3.18-xxxxxxxxx
Hyperion 4.4.1
Ideas ? Am I missing a facility setting.
config file:
CPUSERIAL 019294??????? # CPU serial number
CPUMODEL? 2964????????? # CPU model number see config doc for cpu
models
CPUVERID 00
MODEL EMULATOR
PLANT ZZ
MANUFACTURER HRC
FACILITY ENABLE BIT271
FACILITY ENABLE BIT44
FACILITY ENABLE BIT06
FACILITY DISABLE BIT50
FACILITY DISABLE BIT73
MAINSIZE 2048???????? # Main storage size in megabytes
XPNDSIZE 1024???????? # Expanded storage size in megabytes
CNSLPORT? 3264????????? # TCP port number to which consoles
connect
HTTP??? ??? ROOT? /usr/local/share/hercules
HTTP??? ??? PORT? 8064 auth linuxgae linux390
HTTP??? ??? START
#SHRDPORT 3990
MAXCPU??? 4
NUMCPU??? 1???????????? # Number of CPUs
#LOADPARM? 0214????????? # IPL parameter
#LOADPARM? sysg????????? # IPL parameter
OSTAILOR? quiet???????? # OS tailoring
PANOPT???? FULLPATH RATE=SLOW "TITLE=NPR VM6.4"
ARCHLVL z/arch
DEVTMAX?? 0
LPARNAME? ERNST
LPARNUM?? 01
SHCMDOPT? ENABLE
DIAG8CMD? ENABLE ECHO
PGMPRDOS? LICENSED
##################### note enter pageing63 on sal screen
#######################################
# .-----------------------Device number
# |???? .-----------------Device type
# |???? |?????? .---------File name and parameters
# |???? |?????? |
# V???? V?????? V
#---??? ----??? --------------------
0000??? SYSG SYSGCONS
# 000C??? 2501
0020.4? 3270 mstr
#215.5?? 3270
#0500??? 3480
#0510??? 3490
#0590??? 3590
#****
0640??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64com.640
sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.640 cu=3990
0641??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64rel.641
sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.641 cu=3990
0642??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64res.642
sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.642 cu=3990
0643??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64spl.643
sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.643 cu=3990
0644??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64pag.644
sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.644 cu=3990
0645??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64wrk.645
sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.645 cu=3990
0900.3? qeth chpid f0 ipaddr 172.25.92.100/24
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Re: Unable to complete install of Z/VM 6.4 Disabled wait 0902
[...] then the disabled wait ........... 0902 What does disabled wait 0902 mean? What does the IBM reference manual say? -- "Fish" (David B. Trout) Software Development Laboratories mail: fish@...
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Unable to complete install of Z/VM 6.4 Disabled wait 0902
Greetings all
I'm attempting install Z/VM 6.4
I mount the install iso image ipl from it and all goes well including loading the RSU. The last thing i see is the define term conmode 3270 and ipling res volume.
then the disabled wait ........... 0902
Real Hardware: intel i7 with 32G memory
host os is opensuse 15.3 kerenl 5.3.18-xxxxxxxxx
Hyperion 4.4.1
Ideas ? Am I missing a facility setting.
config file:
CPUSERIAL 019294??????? # CPU serial number
CPUMODEL? 2964????????? # CPU model number see config doc for cpu models
CPUVERID 00
MODEL EMULATOR
PLANT ZZ
MANUFACTURER HRC
FACILITY ENABLE BIT271
FACILITY ENABLE BIT44
FACILITY ENABLE BIT06
FACILITY DISABLE BIT50
FACILITY DISABLE BIT73
MAINSIZE 2048???????? # Main storage size in megabytes
XPNDSIZE 1024???????? # Expanded storage size in megabytes
CNSLPORT? 3264????????? # TCP port number to which consoles connect
HTTP??? ??? ROOT? /usr/local/share/hercules
HTTP??? ??? PORT? 8064 auth linuxgae linux390
HTTP??? ??? START
#SHRDPORT 3990
MAXCPU??? 4
NUMCPU??? 1???????????? # Number of CPUs
#LOADPARM? 0214????????? # IPL parameter
#LOADPARM? sysg????????? # IPL parameter
OSTAILOR? quiet???????? # OS tailoring
PANOPT???? FULLPATH RATE=SLOW "TITLE=NPR VM6.4"
ARCHLVL z/arch
DEVTMAX?? 0
LPARNAME? ERNST
LPARNUM?? 01
SHCMDOPT? ENABLE
DIAG8CMD? ENABLE ECHO
PGMPRDOS? LICENSED
##################### note enter pageing63 on sal screen #######################################
# .-----------------------Device number
# |???? .-----------------Device type
# |???? |?????? .---------File name and parameters
# |???? |?????? |
# V???? V?????? V
#---??? ----??? --------------------
0000??? SYSG SYSGCONS
# 000C??? 2501
0020.4? 3270 mstr
#215.5?? 3270
#0500??? 3480
#0510??? 3490
#0590??? 3590
#****
0640??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64com.640 sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.640 cu=3990
0641??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64rel.641 sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.641 cu=3990
0642??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64res.642 sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.642 cu=3990
0643??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64spl.643 sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.643 cu=3990
0644??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64pag.644 sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.644 cu=3990
0645??? 3390 /oss/vm640/g64wrk.645 sf=/oss/vm640/shadows/shadow_1.645 cu=3990
0900.3? qeth chpid f0 ipaddr 172.25.92.100/24
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Gentles, OK, having looked at this I can now see why things work the way they do and I am not sure how to fix things! So the format of the “EDIT” command is:- ? “HELP command <topic> (BRIEF|ALL|MORE” ? This allows there to be multiple help files with the same name for different environments. ?So for example “CHANGE” exists as both an EDIT and a CP command. ? HELP CHANGE ? Produces the CP help, ? HELP EDIT CHANGE ? Produces the help for the EDIT change command. ? FSHELP does not have the <topic> argument so whilst it lists the “CHANGE” command as an EDIT sub-topic when you do FSHELP, it cannot display this file. FSHELP CHANGE EDIT produces help for the CP CHANGE command, FSHELP EDIT CHANGE just gives the general EDIT help. ? I believe FSEDIT is set up this way so that the F2 navigate to another command works. It simply looks for “FSHELP <word> and a proper fix would need FSHELP to know which environment its working with. ? I guess a temporary fix is to my hack is to amend EDIT so when it calls FSEHLP it only passes the “<topic>” if two arguments are passed? Also add a (NOSCREEN option to allow the “hidden” topics to be displayed? ? Dave ? ?
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Re: Additional Help Files
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 02:48 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
Just double up the double quotes.
Indeed, that worked. I entered ""Hello World"" in the interactive session.type hello basic a
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0010 REM HELLO WORLD EXAMPLE
0020 PRINT "Hello World"
0030 END
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Ready; T=0.01/0.01 17:50:30
bwbasic
?Bywater BASIC Interpreter/Shell, version 2.50
?Copyright (c) 1993, Ted A. Campbell
?Copyright (c) 1995-1997, Jon B. Volkoff
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OPEN ERROR CODE '04' ON 'PDP000HD'.
0010 REM HELLO WORLD EXAMPLE
0020 PRINT "Hello World"
0030 END
list
bwBASIC: bwBASIC: bwBASIC: bwBASIC:????? 10: REM HELLO WORLD EXAMPLE
???? 20: PRINT "HELLO WORLD"
???? 30: END
run
bwBASIC: HELLO WORLD
end
quit
bwBASIC: bwBASIC:
Ready; T=0.07/0.10 17:51:15
?... Mark S.
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Mark A. Stevens
René Ferland