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Aethra is a Hercules distribution I'm developing and hope to release soon. It's intended to be more focused on stability and correctness and portability than SDL, which is more bleeding-edge.
On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 9:21?AM Dave McGuire <mcguire@... <mailto:mcguire@...>> wrote:
? ?What is Aethra?
? ? ? ? ? -Dave
On 5/19/23 10:13, Jay Maynard wrote:
> Can you point me at the Hercules changes? I'll include them in
Aethra,
> if allowed.
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> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 8:25?AM Harold Grovesteen
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> <mailto:h.grovsteen@... <mailto:h.grovsteen@...>>> wrote:
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>? ? ?I have had extensive discussions with the author of the
enhancements.
>? ? ?It is a significant enhancement for RSCS and its attachment
>? ? ?capabilities.? It provides NJE node support in VM/370.? There are
>? ? ?Hercules enhancements that support the TCP/IP connection used
by NJE.
>? ? ?The enhancements allow VM/370 to talk to VM/370 and S/370 MVS
or modern
>? ? ?operating systems using NJE.? Transferring of files, in
particular is
>? ? ?supported.
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>? ? ?As far as I know, the Hercules changes are available.
Whether they are
>? ? ?part of the distribution, I do not know.
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>? ? ?The vintage documentation will not describe how to configure
RSCS for
>? ? ?this usage.? The author I am confident can point someone to the
>? ? ?documentation that would help in use of the enhancements.
This assumes
>? ? ?the author is willing to share the VM related software with
the user.
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>? ? ?My interest was in developing a Python based NJE-node as an
add on to
>? ? ?SATK.? That would dramatically ease the movement of files between
>? ? ?VM/370, MVS 3.8 and modern systems.? All of the NJE-node
supporting
>? ? ?products for Windows or Linux and the like are proprietary.
I was
>? ? ?looking at an Open Source implementation.? Very big job, and
with the
>? ? ?author's reluctance to share his work, that sort of killed my
momentum
>? ? ?for pursuing the idea.
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>? ? ?Harold Grovesteen
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>? ? ?On Thu, 2023-05-18 at 21:11 +0200, Mike Beer wrote:
>? ? ? > Many years ago I did 1) – as described below.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > IIRC e.g. it went like this
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > TAG DEV ….
>? ? ? > SP CON START …
>? ? ? > SP CON CLOSE
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>? ? ? > However, I did not use this in an HERC environment.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > The current z/VM RSCS documention describes several attachment
>? ? ? > options – so creating a modern RSCS should be doable.
>? ? ? > A standard TCP/IP support however would be desirable.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Best regards
>? ? ? > Mike
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>? ? ?<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> On Behalf Of
René Ferland
>? ? ? > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2023 20:57
>? ? ? > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>? ? ? > Subject: Re: [h390-vm] Doubts about setting up RSCS #VMCE
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 08:42 AM, Bob Bolch wrote:
>? ? ? > > I think VM/370 RSCS is too old to do much of anything
useful.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Overall, I agree with you. However I feel that if
something could be
>? ? ? > done, back in the days of VM/370, we should be able to
reproduce it
>? ? ? > with VM/370 CE, even if it is not particularly useful. Of
course,
>? ? ? > that assumes we have the necessary code.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Looking at the documentation of the time, with my limited
>? ? ? > understanding of it, I believe it was possible, with RSCS
RJE lines:
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > 1) to connect two VM/370 instances, to punch files from
one system to
>? ? ? > the card reader of a virtual machine on the other system;
>? ? ? > 2) to connect VM/370 RSCS to MVS as a RJE station, to
submit jobs and
>? ? ? > get back the output on VM;
>? ? ? > 3) to connect a RJE station to VM/370 RSCS to transfer
files or
>? ? ? > submit jobs to virtual machines like CMSBATCH or DOS/VS.
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? >
>? ? ? > Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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