On Jul 6, 2020, at 4:39 PM, Nancy White <nancy.white@...> wrote:

First, here are some TRIZ online resources - incomplete but we are working on them!? ?and some templates from this Spring?

Second, TRIZ is about figuring out what to STOP doing. Stop doing can be individual or collective. The things to stop doing are real, not imaginary or "possibly" real. They are REAL!?

Third, I tried to do TRIZ fast online and yes, I needed to slow it down. The "1" phase can be just giving people 1-2 minutes to jot down ideas. Then into their groups and compile ideas with 1-2 people taking notes into GDoc, or slide, or whatever. Then they tick off the things that they actually do that contribute towards the failure. that can be 10 minutes or so depending on the complexity of the context. If it is very complex, more time. If the breakout groups identify what to stop doing, that is faster than trying to compile to the whole group and then just compare the final prioritized selection(s) for each group. But be realistic about the number of things you can immediately stop doing. :-)

Online, TRIZ is really fun to do. You can put the ideas for stopping doing on a Google slide, then in Zoom do a screen share and use the stamping tool (annotation) to get people to indicate what they want to stop doing. If their "stamps" are all over the place, that creates a different discussion than if they all felt they should stop a few, similar things.?

But as I write this, I really want to drill down a bit more on your purpose for doing this.? Tell us more about what you want to accomplish?

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 9:22 AM Barb Bickford <bickfordcollaboration@...> wrote:

HI Ruth,?

I'm going to speak to your second question.? I think the groups should choose their top ideas, so that they can?explore and implement these ideas first.? They can record and address the other ideas later.??

However, I think the real question is, what is a group's criteria for calling an idea a "top idea"?? It might be worth exploring what they want the ideal solution (or result or end situation) to look like, before doing TRIZ.? Then the groups can discuss how each idea would get them closer to that ideal.

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On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 4:49 AM Ruth Picker - Hosting dialogue and collaboration <office@...> wrote:

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I want to use TRIZ online (with a small group of 13 people whom I will split into 3 subgroups in break out rooms) and am wondering about the following questions (it’s first time TRIZ for me ?:

1)????? time frame: The onsite version seems too short to me (1-2-4-all time frame for 3 rounds seems not enough for people who have also to access a google doc and recod their lists) – what is your experience, who many minutes did you allow for the group reflections?

2)????? I am not sure if I understood the instructions correctly: Do you really narrov down group’s results by making them select their top ideas in each round? (as would be the logic for the integrated 1-2-4-all) For the people I am working with, it seems to make more sense to identify as many aspects as possiible. But then it would probably take aroud 1 hr to do TRIZ (I would leave out the dyads to save some time).

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3)????? Any learnings that I should know about when doing TRIZ online? (I did check the GD file that Nancy & colleagues offered in the group already, many thanks!!)

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