In a thread somewhere in the past week I saw a common brain myth shared on this list. I'm not replying to the person because it was in otherwise brilliant email and I don't want to seem like I'm attacking.
The myth - people learn effectively in different ways. The fact - we don't. We have preferences, but our preferences aren't always related to what is effective.
Some sources on learning styles: ??
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If you're?interested in the science of learning - you might start here:??(Its focused on eLearning). Before Covid19 blew my world up, I was putting alot of my spare time energy into understanding effective eLearning.
Back to your regularly scheduled crisis Mark
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Thanks Sharon for the tip, but as I wrote earlier with?+100 participants I feel uncomfortable with breakouts. I simply want to make sure anyone in the crowd if feeling has anything more to share to jump inside?the bowl and help steer dialogue further. Doing? Fishbowl?+ 1-2-4-ALL with small groups is great and there are all sorts of strings we can use to go deeper or simply to go wider, according to the group needs.?
Do you see that this free seat offer may be problematic?
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 20:45, Sharon Dale < Sharon@...> wrote: We do not leave an empty chair Paul, we have a fishbowl conversation and then have the people outside the bowl use 1-2-4 all to identify additional questions, these are stated and then the fish carry on incorporating some of the additional questions?
Sharon ? Thanks for sharing this, Mike, I also like this format.?
I am now planning to that but with an empty seat, so that anyone from the group can be inside the bowl.
Any recommendations??
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 16:48, Mike Pounsford < Mikep@...> wrote:
I had a great experience yesterday ¨C those in the centre leave their videos on, those around (looking in) turn video off.? When it is the turn of those outside to provide observations they turn their videos on and the ones who were in the
centre turn their videos off.? At end share learning and reflections with all videos on
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Hi all,
I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online?
We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.
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Best,
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Michelle.
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We do not leave an empty chair Paul, we have a fishbowl conversation and then have the people outside the bowl use 1-2-4 all to identify additional questions, these are stated and then the fish carry on incorporating some of the additional questions?
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? Thanks for sharing this, Mike, I also like this format.?
I am now planning to that but with an empty seat, so that anyone from the group can be inside the bowl.
Any recommendations??
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+34 667 643 688 Twitter: @nunesdea
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 16:48, Mike Pounsford < Mikep@...> wrote:
I had a great experience yesterday ¨C those in the centre leave their videos on, those around (looking in) turn video off.? When it is the turn of those outside to provide observations they turn their videos on and the ones who were in the
centre turn their videos off.? At end share learning and reflections with all videos on
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Best wishes
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Mike
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Hi all,
I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online?
We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.
?
Best,
?
Michelle.
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The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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Hi all,
I am sorry to break in with the message with actually no original information BUT this is wow! Just wow!?
I read the question about how to organise fishbowl discussion via zoom. My first thought was hmmm no way! But during less than an hour here's already 3 different examples.
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Thanks for sharing this, Mike, I also like this format.?
I am now planning to that but with an empty seat, so that anyone from the group can be inside the bowl.
Any recommendations??
Paul Nunesdea | Paulo Nunes de Abreu?
+34 667 643 688 Twitter: @nunesdea
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 16:48, Mike Pounsford < Mikep@...> wrote:
I had a great experience yesterday ¨C those in the centre leave their videos on, those around (looking in) turn video off.? When it is the turn of those outside to provide observations they turn their videos on and the ones who were in the
centre turn their videos off.? At end share learning and reflections with all videos on
?
Best wishes
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Mike
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+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
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Hi all,
I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online?
We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.
?
Best,
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Michelle.
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The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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Guide to running remote workshops
The Definitive Guide to Facilitating Remote Workshops - from MURAL Tried to put on the google doc resource page but couldn¡¯t - Maybe someone with permissions can. Thx!
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Brilliant ¨C thanks Mike and thanks everyone else as well. Since this workshop is on in the next half hour I¡¯ll stick with the videos on/off but will explore everyone elses resources more for next time. It¡¯s a small group brought together to experiment loosely with different formats, so this will be idea¡ ? Appreciate everyone¡¯s generosity on this list! ? Best, ? Michelle. ? --- Dr Michelle Bastian Senior Lecturer in Environmental Humanities ESALA, Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh ? ? I had a great experience yesterday ¨C those in the centre leave their videos on, those around (looking in) turn video off.? When it is the turn of those outside to provide observations they turn their videos on and the ones who were in the centre turn their videos off.? At end share learning and reflections with all videos on ? Best wishes ? Mike ?
+44 (0) 1732 371 252 +44 (0) 7860 196 343 ? ? ? ? Hi all,? I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online? We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.? ? Best,? ? Michelle.? ? The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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You can do breakout rooms in Zoom but you have to relinquish your access to the "Support" feature where you take control of someone else's computer. Just a heads up for those juggling 1:1 support and delivering live sessions.?
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 11:43 AM Paul Nunesdea < p.nunesdea@...> wrote: Great variant Nancy, for a small group (less than 50) but?with +100 participants I get an unexplainable sense of unease when thinking about breakout groups. Does Zoom webinar has that feature??
Good luck Mike!
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A variant in Zoom that works well for me has been to have the fish do their fish bit and not bring in new people. Instead, break the outer "bowl" people into smaller groups of 4-6 to talk about what they heard from the fish and develop either a key question or 1-2 suggestions for the fish. They write these in a google doc. Then come back to plenary and share out ONE question or highlight and fish get a final round/last words.
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Great variant Nancy, for a small group (less than 50) but?with +100 participants I get an unexplainable sense of unease when thinking about breakout groups. Does Zoom webinar has that feature??
Good luck Mike!
Paul Nunesdea | Paulo Nunes de Abreu?
+34 667 643 688 Twitter: @nunesdea
A variant in Zoom that works well for me has been to have the fish do their fish bit and not bring in new people. Instead, break the outer "bowl" people into smaller groups of 4-6 to talk about what they heard from the fish and develop either a key question or 1-2 suggestions for the fish. They write these in a google doc. Then come back to plenary and share out ONE question or highlight and fish get a final round/last words.
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Brilliant ¨C thanks Mike and thanks everyone else as well. Since this workshop is on in the next half hour I¡¯ll stick with the videos on/off but will explore everyone elses resources more for next time. It¡¯s a
small group brought together to experiment loosely with different formats, so this will be idea¡
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Appreciate everyone¡¯s generosity on this list!
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ESALA, Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh
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I had a great experience yesterday ¨C those in the centre leave their videos on, those around (looking in) turn video off.? When it is the turn of those outside to provide observations they turn their videos on and the ones who were in the
centre turn their videos off.? At end share learning and reflections with all videos on
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Best wishes
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Mike
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Hi all,
I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online?
We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.
?
Best,
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Michelle.
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Re: Pairing / Supporting: Facilitators on the job
Hi Nancy,?
if that is good for you, and within your 'work/life' boundaries, yes please to being 'on-the-side support'. Do you mean the role: 'at-the-meeting-tech-steward-co-facilitator'??
- and am always happy to share agenda setting, templates etc. - so yes please drop a template in, and I'll come back to the page on Friday morning.
best wishes
Ed
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Re: Pairing / Supporting: Facilitators on the job
Hi all,? thanks to those who filled in the doodle (Elizabeth Dubelman, Sharon, elana centor, Catherine Borgman-Arboleda, Dasha Mytareva, Ed Mitchell). Others are welcome - either use the zoom link below or email me. As we're making the plane while flying it, there's no tech steward or co-facilitator yet, so I'll juggle to start with and hope that the right attendees step forward at the beginning).? Meeting time and zoom place ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Monday 30th March
- 16:00 BST (British Summer Time)
- See your timezone here: https://everytimezone.com/s/8bfedccf
- Zoom link here:?
Format/Agenda
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I have made a google page with a very rough first proposal on the format/agenda and will return to it Friday morning.
Please have a look in advance. Check the meeting purpose? Make some agenda suggestions? Feel free :)
We will start the meeting with a short agenda-agreeing-conversation.?
If you have any questions etc. please email me: lists@...
Hurray! .. Nervous... :)
best wishes
Ed
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Thanks for sharing this, Mike, I also like this format.?
I am now planning to that but with an empty seat, so that anyone from the group can be inside the bowl.
Any recommendations??
Paul Nunesdea | Paulo Nunes de Abreu?
+34 667 643 688 Twitter: @nunesdea
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 16:48, Mike Pounsford < Mikep@...> wrote:
I had a great experience yesterday ¨C those in the centre leave their videos on, those around (looking in) turn video off.? When it is the turn of those outside to provide observations they turn their videos on and the ones who were in the
centre turn their videos off.? At end share learning and reflections with all videos on
?
Best wishes
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Mike
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+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
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Hi all,
I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online?
We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.
?
Best,
?
Michelle.
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The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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A variant in Zoom that works well for me has been to have the fish do their fish bit and not bring in new people. Instead, break the outer "bowl" people into smaller groups of 4-6 to talk about what they heard from the fish and develop either a key question or 1-2 suggestions for the fish. They write these in a google doc. Then come back to plenary and share out ONE question or highlight and fish get a final round/last words.
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Re: Pairing / Supporting: Facilitators on the job
I think I missed the poll closing, but I can be on-the-side support for monday, and Ed, if you want help setting up the template, just holler!
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Re: Pairing / Supporting: Facilitators on the job
Thanks Michelle,?
and if you want to come to the introduction/review meet the details are in the next post :)
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Hi Michelle
Back in 2013 (!) we were doing online case clinics (similar to Troika/peer mentoring) in a fishbowl.
I¡¯m sharing the guidelines I drew up back then (plus the visual that we shared to explain the process at the beginning ¡ )
I might dust them off and update them, if anyone uses them and gives me feedback on how they went. This was done in Adobe Connect, but the principles would be the same.
Bev
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I had a great experience yesterday ¨C those in the centre leave their videos on, those around (looking in) turn video off.? When it is the turn of those outside to provide observations they turn their videos on and the ones who were in the centre turn their videos off.? At end share learning and reflections with all videos on ? Best wishes ? Mike ?
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Hello Michelle,
For folks unfamiliar with fishbowl, here's a on the Liberating Structures community of practice.? In essence, most people are watching a few people converse.? Audience members take turns going into the center to speak for a few turns of the conversation and then step back out to the observer area again.
I'd recommend that the best way to do it is with a Zoom webinar account ($40/month) because you can promote people to panelist when they're "in the fishbowl".? Everyone else will have access to write in the chat and will be in listen-only mode.
Or if you wanted to try it with a Zoom meeting ($14.99/month) and not a webinar, you could have people raise their hands to indicate that they'd like to go into the fishbowl and then they would wait for a private chat message from the facilitator indicating that they are in and can begin speaking. Lucas Cioffi Founder,? Scarsdale, NY 917-528-1831
Hi all,
I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online?
We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.
?
Best,
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Michelle.
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The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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I have used zoom for meetings. I have not yet done the fishbowl model online, only in person.?
The problem with zoom is you only really have manual control over who is in which room, and only the host can do this (in most cases), so you end up being a switchboard operator.?
One tool that I am looking at exploring that would make this easier is ?
However,? it looks like they don't do recording. In addition, zoom?does not allow for recording of the breakout rooms without actually starting the recording from inside a room.?
If you want to control the view of who is speaking and who can speak, zoom can be forced to do it, but it will take you driving a bunch of the control of who is speaking.? You can by hand mute and unmute people. I suspect it will be very laggy.?
And so I think you will end up falling back to a moderated townhall?pattern instead of a free-er flowing fishbowl pattern.
Hi all,
I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online?
We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.
?
Best,
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Michelle.
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The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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I had a great experience yesterday ¨C those in the centre leave their videos on, those around (looking in) turn video off.? When it is the turn of those outside to provide observations they turn their videos on and the ones who were in the
centre turn their videos off.? At end share learning and reflections with all videos on
?
Best wishes
?
Mike
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+44 (0) 1732 371 252
+44 (0) 7860 196 343
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Hi all,
I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online?
We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.
?
Best,
?
Michelle.
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The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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Hi all,
I¡¯m facilitating and online academic workshop with 10 participants and I¡¯d like to try a small fishbowl exercise to discuss issues around Covid-19. I was wondering if any of you knew of links talking about how others have done this online?
We are using zoom. Really appreciate any tips.
?
Best,
?
Michelle.
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The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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Re: Well, it's time for dialogue facilitators to act: together
Dear Lucas,?
I know how you must be feeling, and this initiative is quite timely and needed.?
Let me just share here the latest version of a paper that has a huge diffusion already (+40 million readers) and translated in all sorts of languages, although in the present moment it's in English that it's most needed - The hammer and the Dance, have you seen it??
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This could be a good backgrounder for the conversations next week, it has been widely acknowledged as the most comprehensive piece of content on the subject and the challenge is how to have US politicians acting?accordingly (it seems that Boris Johnson already read it, finally)
Best?wishes? Paul Nunesdea | Paulo Nunes de Abreu?
+34 667 643 688 Twitter: @nunesdea
PS?
I have registered?but now realise I cannot join as I am hosting another event at the exact same time...
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 14:31, Lucas Cioffi < lucas@...> wrote: Good Morning fellow NCDD members, Open Space List members, Art of Hosting list members, and F4C-Response list members.
This is an invitation for my American friends and colleagues.? I'm sharing it on these international lists, because there are probably efforts in other countries that are far ahead of us, and I hope that we can learn from each other. INVITATION In the next few weeks American leaders?are going to made?decisions that either increase risk for health or for our economy.? Much of the national "conversation" will be on TV with the American public as passive bystanders; they will be left without a voice on what happens to our health and to our economy.
I believe that we -- yes the people on these email lists -- have an unprecedented opportunity to actually help the public change the conversation.? As facilitators, we do not have scientific expertise (and neither does the average resident or citizen) but WE do have expertise in how to include scientific experts in our processes.
What is possible now?? What can we do together that rises to this tremendous challenge facing literally all of us right now?
I don't know what's possible, but I believe we can co-create something truly inspiring.? We don't need to use one method or tool; instead we need coordinate and align all of our diverse efforts to have greater impact.
To start some initial conversations among all of us,?.?? All are welcome! Let's see what we can do! Lucas Cioffi Founder,? Scarsdale, NY 917-528-1831
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Paul Nunesdea
Ed Mitchell
Nancy White
Bev Wenger-Trayner
Lucas Cioffi
John Sechrest