Re: Zoom Breakout Rooms - mixing participants up in different rounds?
Hi Micheal,
Recreate b/o rooms in Zoom is easy. Just click the bottom and folks get mixed up automatically.
I do joke that if the participants still get to be in the same room after I have clicked that buttoon, they should blame Zoom and not me :)
Looking at your flow I would suggest that when the participants are in the main room again, to post the next question in the chat window before they head off for the next round. So they can see the question in the chat window once they are in the b/o.
Warmly,
Sara
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Thank you, everyone, for sharing your expertise so openly with me - what an absolute goldmine.?
Mark - thinking about a 'pollinator' role is a really useful framing, thank you.?
Andrea- Tricidir, thank you, I'll check it out
Bev - thanks for sharing your process. That is a deeply inspiring use of mural - #MuralGoals.?
Nancy - thanks for digging into the archives - what an incredible selection of resources. The formatting of the Online Community Toolkit belongs in a digital art gallery!
Best wishes and take care,
Emma
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Zoom Breakout Rooms - mixing participants up in different rounds?
Hello everyone
I'm helping another client prepare to host listening sessions with the members of their association. Participants will engage with each other in Zoom Breakout Rooms, using Google Docs to take notes for later harvesting.
The client wants to explore 3 questions over the course of 1 hour. I've recommended that they give them one question at a time, returning to the Main Room to receive the next question.
In addition to managing the time they spend on each question, this is also a chance to mix up the groups so that people can interact with a new group of peers.
What has been your experience of re-creating rooms in the same meeting? If you allow Zoom to randomly assign people into the rooms, will it mix up the participants to some extent? Or does it work from the participant list and just group them alphabetically?- so that there is little/no variation in group composition across multiple rounds?
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Re: Contribute your insight/perspective/experience hosting VIRTUAL unconferences?
Very odd, Nancy- maybe the forum doesn't like the hyperlink. Let me try again?. Hopefully that works better. Thanks for pointing that out.?
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Found another oldie? Haha - I did not take the old stuff down, but somehow it is not on the server of my blog, so now I need to dig it out. I found a few pages are still up ....? alas the formatting is all bonkers.?
Some of the blog categories can take you back to some of the old stuff?
There are still tools with discussion threading. But the art of doing it has been buried for a long time.?
Oddly, email still works if you structure it properly. The late, great Marie Jasinski was a goddess of email conversation process!?
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Nancy W
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:49 AM Bev Wenger-Trayner < bev@...> wrote: Gosh, Emma?
I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then.
The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies, ways of weaving someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences.
I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back.
Bev
On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith < emma@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,? ? I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously. ? I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences. ? Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date. ? If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful. ? Many thanks,? ? Emma?
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Haha - I did not take the old stuff down, but somehow it is not on the server of my blog, so now I need to dig it out. I found a few pages are still up ....? alas the formatting is all bonkers.?
Some of the blog categories can take you back to some of the old stuff?
There are still tools with discussion threading. But the art of doing it has been buried for a long time.?
Oddly, email still works if you structure it properly. The late, great Marie Jasinski was a goddess of email conversation process!?
Waving
Nancy W
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:49 AM Bev Wenger-Trayner < bev@...> wrote: Gosh, Emma?
I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then.
The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies, ways of weaving someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences.
I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back.
Bev
On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith < emma@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,? ? I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously. ? I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences. ? Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date. ? If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful. ? Many thanks,? ? Emma?
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Re: Contribute your insight/perspective/experience hosting VIRTUAL unconferences?
Thanks, Julian - would you please check that link? I get a 404 error. :-)
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 10:31 PM Julian Martinez < Julian@...> wrote: SINCERE thanks to everyone- Judy, Steve, Noreen, Kubeshni, Lucas, Bev, Louise- who replied with their thoughts/suggestions on / experience with Virtual Unconferences. We received some really unique, insightful contributions from the group for the "" content piece.?
This f4c community is incredible!
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Re: Asynchronous Group Discussions
Haha - I did not take the old stuff down, but somehow it is not on the server of my blog, so now I need to dig it out. I found a few pages are still up ....? alas the formatting is all bonkers.?
Some of the blog categories can take you back to some of the old stuff?
There are still tools with discussion threading. But the art of doing it has been buried for a long time.?
Oddly, email still works if you structure it properly. The late, great Marie Jasinski was a goddess of email conversation process!?
Waving
Nancy W
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:49 AM Bev Wenger-Trayner < bev@...> wrote: Gosh, Emma?
I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then.
The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies, ways of weaving someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences.
I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back.
Bev
On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith < emma@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,? ? I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously. ? I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences. ? Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date. ? If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful. ? Many thanks,? ? Emma?
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Emma
On another note, we have used Mural for working across time zones and in several languages. It was a mix of synchronous and asynchronous. The attached Mural is what it looked like after the six week process. It was pretty empty to start with.
We used Mural as if it were a room where one group (from timezone South America) left the ¡°stuff¡± from their meetings on the wall so that when we met - synchronously - with the group from (timezone) Asia they were able to see the results of the meeting from their members from South America. And vice versa. You can see South American countries in the top right corner (orange/vertical) and the Asian countries in the bottom left (purple/horizontal).
The emerging vision from both groups grew in the top left corner. They grew out of a series of different conversations with the two groups. They prepared and put their thoughts on the Mural, we discussed, we looked at what the others in the other regional group were saying, and people added or updated what they were saying based on what they were ¡°hearing¡±(asynchronously) ?from the group in the other timezone.?
The bottom right corner of the attached Mural were specific quotes that people heard from fellow members that they wanted to record.
Then in between are some things that just didn¡¯t fit anyone else.?
One advantage of doing it like this is that - where necessary - someone (in the group) would translate someone¡¯s ¡°flip chart paper¡± or ¡°post-it note¡± into an appropriate language for other members of the group. The emerging vision was prepared in English and translated into Spanish as we went.
It was a complex process (for us the facilitators, less so for the members) - so I haven¡¯t done it justice. But I hope it gives you the idea.
Bev
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On 2 Mar 2021, at 14:49, Bev Wenger-Trayner via < bev@...> wrote:
Gosh, Emma?
I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then.
The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies, ways of weaving someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences.
I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back.
Bev
On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith < emma@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,? ? I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously. ? I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences. ? Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date. ? If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful. ? Many thanks,? ? Emma?
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I have successfully used Tricider for something like this. ? Andrea Gewessler www.changethatmatters.co.uk Mobile ¨C 0044 796 396 0194 Office ¨C 0044 20 8776 9111 Skype ¨C Andrea.Gewessler ? ? ? Gosh, Emma? I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then. The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies, ways of weaving someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences. I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back.
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On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith <emma@...> wrote: ? I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously. I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences. Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date. If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful.
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Gosh, Emma?
I expect you¡¯re making people over the age of 40 feel old! We only ever facilitated group discussions asynchronously and some of us would say that the conversations were richer and more meaningful then.
The BIG problem, for me, is that technology has changed to facilitate either asynchronous discussions or posts with comments. I feel a deep regret that all the work that went into facilitating asynchronous discussions with threaded replies, ways of weaving someone else¡¯s words or statements into your own, and a myriad of other subtleties have been lost. With it has died the aspiration, at least, for a thoughtful or ponderous conversation - or the co-creation of ideas through experiences.
I¡¯m going to see if I can dig out some of the old facilitation guidelines I have. And Nancy White, for sure has the canonical ones. She probably took all her stuff down because it seemed outdated. But I know it will come back.
Bev
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On 2 Mar 2021, at 05:36, Emma Smith < emma@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,? ? I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously. ? I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences. ? Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date. ? If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful. ? Many thanks,? ? Emma?
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Emma - people in the Agile world have long experience with this. Daily Scrum in Toronto and then Beijing. Find a people to act as travellers, who¡¯re able to attend both they cross pollinate between sessions.?
Also instead of two longer sessions have four shorter sessions. Allowing time for each group to use/learn from the other.
Otherwise you simply had two Independant groups and no cross pollination . - Mark
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:31 AM Emma Smith < emma@...> wrote:
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I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously.
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I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences.
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Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date.
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If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful.
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Many thanks,
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Emma
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Asynchronous Group Discussions
Hello everyone,
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I¡¯m involved in an ongoing project with timezone conflicts that cannot be resolved, and wondered whether any of you have experience with facilitating group discussions asynchronously.
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I would like to approximate a group discussion as closely as possible as it¡¯s a spectacular group with much to learn from the cross-pollunation of ideas and experiences.
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Initial thoughts are to split the group in two based on timezones, and then have a process whereby each group reflects on the other group¡¯s output at a later date.
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If you¡¯d facilitated something similar, I¡¯d love to hear what tools and methodologies you found useful.
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Many thanks,
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Emma
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Re: Contribute your insight/perspective/experience hosting VIRTUAL unconferences?
SINCERE thanks to everyone- Judy, Steve, Noreen, Kubeshni, Lucas, Bev, Louise- who replied with their thoughts/suggestions on / experience with Virtual Unconferences. We received some really unique, insightful contributions from the group for the "" content piece.?
This f4c community is incredible!
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Thanks so much, Linda, and for others who reached out (Michael!) to help me in crunch time with Mural. People who tried to help me have also been perplexed by what happened, and it seems that indeed the elements were too big for the Board. I think what I did (in error) was that when I pulled a post-it note over to the board it was very small, too small to see and read what was being written on it. My response was to make the post-it larger on my screen INSTEAD of zooming in. That was my mistake (I think).? That doesn't exactly explain why I could see my whole Mural board when I built it initially but, by the end of my working with it, I couldn't see the whole board anymore, nor could I zoom it smaller than 38% on my side (Michael could zoom his view to 28%, no idea why). I will try it again and see if it happens again. If so, I might go back to Miro!?
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When I've had this problem, I realized that the areas/elements I had created had gotten moved off the edges of the actual mural canvas. I extended the size of my mural board so that the elements I wanted to show were inside the boundaries of teh mural board and all was fixed.? That's hard to see if you have colored your mural board with a full size image or other colored element, so you'd have to move that out of the way to get to the very bottom mural board layer to see if the elements you want to show are inside or outside that boundary.
Linda
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i had intermittent mural bugs (ie ) resolved by refreshing the browser. did you try that?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 7:51 PM Gillian Martin Mehers < gillian@...> wrote: Hello everyone,
I usually use Miro, but thought I would use Mural with a group this week. I prepped for hours, watched videos, read all your thoughtful comments, BUT I still had a very aggravating situation whereby I could not get to the corners of my Mural Board, the view would stop and no matter how much zooming in and out, I could not see nor show others (shared screen in Zoom) some of the items on the boundaries. I had put them there so I could at one point get to them, but it was annoying in real time to not be able to show the whole screen or to be able to get into the edges of the Mural board. Does anyone have a quick tip or link to a video that can help? I would ilke to use it again tomorrow as we have done a lot of good work in there, but this lack of functionality is problematic. Thanks so much!?
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Hello everyone,
I usually use Miro, but thought I would use Mural with a group this week. I prepped for hours, watched videos, read all your thoughtful comments, BUT I still had a very aggravating situation whereby I could not get to the corners of my Mural Board, the view would stop and no matter how much zooming in and out, I could not see nor show others (shared screen in Zoom) some of the items on the boundaries. I had put them there so I could at one point get to them, but it was annoying in real time to not be able to show the whole screen or to be able to get into the edges of the Mural board. Does anyone have a quick tip or link to a video that can help? I would ilke to use it again tomorrow as we have done a lot of good work in there, but this lack of functionality is problematic. Thanks so much!?
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Bi-directional translation bot for Slack
For those of you who have piecemeal designed any international virtual event spaces - or love Slack:
I'm looking?for a translation bot for our Slack workspace - the event's hallways and coffee hour chats and beautiful chance encounters -that can be set to automatically translate from English to French and from French to English. It would have to detect the language and then translate into the other. I've looked at and the , but they don't seem to do bidirectional - only one target language can be selected.
We want to keep this simple and hands-off for participants, so the Slack app would have to: - function for all in the workspace without?individual configurations needed (I can configure channels)
- show both the original message and the translated message in one spot, so it doesn't take up a lot of space repeating the message
Thoughts? And thanks!
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